Mother Plants - from SEED or CLONE?

[Team Microbe]

What's up guys/gals?!

I'm looking for the best way to pheno hunt if I'm looking for mother plants. Only popping about 20 seeds and I'm looking to keep some mothers to work with.


Should I:

A. Flower these seeds and keep cuttings taken right before flowering for my mothers

B. Take my time and grow these out, take cuttings and flower them to determine which mother's I'll keep


My veg tent is only 4x4 with a flowering tent thats 10x5, but if need-be I can switch my hps's with mh's in the flower tent making 2 veg tents



Thanks everyone! Love ICmag so much I had to come back

 

[Team Microbe]

Basically I'm wondering if mothers are healthiest/most vigorous as seeds, or as 2nd gen. clones.

Half are regular seeds, and half are fem seeds as well. Not sure if that plays a factor either...

 

[canna woop!]

Taking the time to grow the and clones will be the most effective. Other wise you are leaving it up to the plants to survive the odds which can leave you with a selection of clones that may not have been labeled or attributed to your selections. If you chose b you can keep them in veg by pruning them down as far as possible, and often. This can yield lots of clones.

 

[RB56]

I start the seeds and veg them until they are large enough to top. Clone from cuttings. I usually top twice anyway, so may end up with three clones from each seed.

I move the plant that started from seed and grow it out fully. Then decide if it has a future or not.

 

[Team Microbe]

I start the seeds and veg them until they are large enough to top. Clone from cuttings. I usually top twice anyway, so may end up with three clones from each seed.

I move the plant that started from seed and grow it out fully. Then decide if it has a future or not.

I like this method a lot more than the other man, it allows me to harvest on schedule and then I can see which seeds outdid the others - keeping those clones and turning em into mamas.

 

[StayFoolish22]

So for breeding purposes, does that 1 generation of cloning mater? Or if I need to be anal retentive about it and grow the clones out and keep the original mothers. Any other comments?

 

[RB56]

So for breeding purposes, does that 1 generation of cloning mater? Or if I need to be anal retentive about it and grow the clones out and keep the original mothers. Any other comments?

I think plant age is much more important that clone generation. I cycle my mothers with everything else. Cuttings through veg is the same for all. Some go into the flower room, others replace the previous generation of mothers. Sometimes I flower mothers. I don't think I ever keep any plant for more than a year, probably not more than 6 months.

 

[bigganjabud]

Well let me know your results as i set up a veg/clone/mum station yesterday so im eager to fill it asap

Same as you really not sure if i should get poppin or go see my mate with a blade

 

[HempKat]

Well I look at it this way this isn't cloning like in a lab or how you see it represented in sci-fi movies. The practice we call cloning could also be called, "Making the exact same plant grow in more then one pot at the same time." There is no scientific evidence I've ever seen of plants losing some of their vitality when they are cloned. I have a cut of cheese I've been cloning and re-cloning for a good 6 years now and it still grows the same, and the buds are still as tasty as ever and get me as high as ever.

 

[TOKING TOKOLOSH]

Got 2 seeds to start with...
Potted into hempy buckets in coco/perlite...
Aggresive fimming, topping and super cropping to create bushes, cloned as soon aspossible and /2 clones allowed to flower a.s.a.p
Proper labeling will allow me to identify correct pheno and create at least 3/4 mother plants which i will then pot into supersoil and use as mothers.

Any suggestions?

 

[Snook]

I think plant age is much more important that clone generation. I cycle my mothers with everything else. Cuttings through veg is the same for all. Some go into the flower room, others replace the previous generation of mothers. Sometimes I flower mothers. I don't think I ever keep any plant for more than a year, probably not more than 6 months.

RB and I are on the same page. Rarely bloom seed plants,
but many of my clones that will replace its' mother down the road (I start 3 cuts at a time and usually trash 1 or 2 when they all root). Most cuts come from defoliation in the 2nd-3rd week of bloom. and I just (5 days ago) put into bloom a Purple Haze Malawi 'mother' whos seed I germed in April of 2016 but never grew out before.. been cloning an replacing the mother since germing.

 

[c00k1eFunk]

this makes sense, old plants will loose vigor like humans do, so cutting a teenager cutting every time before flower would retain the hormones at the same young Vegetative level and not overmature the plant like 2years old motherplant under 18-24h of light!
thanks myth is busted for me now, i can live with this picture in my head, much better than 2minutes ago, when i asked myself what to choose A or B myself, and A is just so much faster and better for people with very little space and many strains! much easier to have 10 clones/young plants over 10 motherplants, even in bonsai!
the bonsai tech is if you want to grow one full tent of same strain...
but if you know what to grow next month, you can grow out a motherplant in this time from a cutting...
not my case..
thanks snook!

i have very good mood today