Craigslist Warehouse Fire Sales

[flyer81]

What is the deal with the warehouses full of equipment that I see periodically on craigslist? I see these fairly regularly. There is money to be made but I feel as if money was actually being made you would not see a warehouse full of equipment being sold.

I would think that with legal markets now in some states that demand for product would be higher than ever and thus equipment would not be idled. But I keep seeing equipment for producing in bulk going for fire sale prices.

 

[Avinash.miles]

there are ALOT of people who are NOT made for this ganja game... they get in thinking its all easy money and drop a buncha $$$k
next thing u know the harsh reality sets in... investors realize they are not growers, not brokers, not even hardly smokers
they realize EVERYONE needs to be paid, noone is gonna work in their weed warehouse for free just cause its awesome to be around a buncha plants and product...
brokers need to be paid as well as workers.
they start hemoraging money

they freak out.
next thing you know
lots of equipment for sale

i've seen it over and over, perhaps a dozen times or more....

 

[hush]

^ Yep. What he said. I know several people who left my home state for Cali with dollar signs in their eyes. Didn't take too long before they had their own listings on the Oakland craigslist page. A few of these people then went on to do the same thing in Michigan... this operation also ended up as gear on craigslist. Some people don't learn, I guess.

Now these same people are in the e-cig business.

 

[SS-]

lol yeahh man. I even know a store owner who grows some fire down here in SFL that moved to Co. and came back. He said the quality is better than what mostly circulates in Co. for the most part, but the prices he had to off it for being an outsider just didn't make it worth it for him, when he already had an established network down here.

 

[flyer81]

for the most part, but the prices he had to off it for being an outsider just didn't make it worth it for him, when he already had an established network down here.

So that adds to it right there. Even in Colorado its still a closed market. You can have the best product but nobody will buy it from you because they dont know you.

 

[hush]

down here in SFL that moved to Co. and came back. He said the quality is better than what mostly circulates in Co. for the most part

That actually doesn't surprise me at all! Having spent quite a bit of time in Florida, Colorado, California, and Oregon, I feel qualified to make an objective observation: Florida seems to have the best bud I've ever smoked. Granted, I've never been to Hawaii, and granted, there is plenty of SHIT weed in Florida, but overall, FL has the best quality bud I've encountered, ever. Too bad that doesn't eclipse what a shithole of a state that god-forsaken place is, unfortunately.

 

[Avinash.miles]

don't get me wrong, it's doable in legal states...
just not if you have nothing to do with cannabis.. if you are a grower, you can grow and make it...
if you are an investor and want to just buy into the industry, have everyone work for you, and start turning a profit in a matter of months (not years).... stay the fuck home, invest in stocks or something lame, don't crash the cannabis party, you were not invited.

 

[TheCleanGame]

What's interesting to see around here in Colorado are the number of kids talking about their "Parents" talking about starting up a grow.

With the information explosion surrounding CBD rich strains that don't get you high... it's becoming even more appealing to the older generations.

Keep it Clean!

 

[Avinash.miles]

true true

I just met a guy about 18years old or so, moved here from TEXAS with his dad just to grow and enjoy the legalized atmosphere... i suggested they look into cheap-o rent in southpark/chaffee areas, and reminded them its the kind of "bring your own income" employment atmosphere up there.

i think it's AWESOME that older people are moving out here to take advantage (in a good way) of the scene in colorado... the more the merrier, imo.

 

[Jhhnn]

What's interesting to see around here in Colorado are the number of kids talking about their "Parents" talking about starting up a grow.

With the information explosion surrounding CBD rich strains that don't get you high... it's becoming even more appealing to the older generations.

Keep it Clean!

I'll never understand why people would want to grow weed that doesn't get you high, other than for specific medical purposes like Charlotte's Web.

At age 64, it disturbs this old hippie's sensibilities, somehow.

I understand wanting weed that's not ridiculously potent, that's warm & sociable, not leaving lightweights plastered to the furniture or the ceiling after a coupla tokes. I even get that some people want high CBD's, but wanting weed that doesn't get you high seems like a strange heresy.

To each their own, but pardon me if I smirk after you tell me that you spent a lot of time, effort & money to grow weed that won't get you high.

Too weird.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

addressing the thread subject. It feels like a trap to me to just buy up a ready to go warehouse built by non-growers. Like your buying failure.

That actually doesn't surprise me at all! Having spent quite a bit of time in Florida, Colorado, California, and Oregon, I feel qualified to make an objective observation: Florida seems to have the best bud I've ever smoked. Granted, I've never been to Hawaii, and granted, there is plenty of SHIT weed in Florida, but overall, FL has the best quality bud I've encountered, ever. Too bad that doesn't eclipse what a shithole of a state that god-forsaken place is, unfortunately.

it is who you know in florida. I know people that live there for years that dont encounter anything close to averagr cali dank, but the one time I went there another person I knew in a different circle found some really really dank hindu kush.

 

[megayields]

there are ALOT of people who are NOT made for this ganja game... they get in thinking its all easy money and drop a buncha $$$k
next thing u know the harsh reality sets in... investors realize they are not growers, not brokers, not even hardly smokers
they realize EVERYONE needs to be paid, noone is gonna work in their weed warehouse for free just cause its awesome to be around a buncha plants and product...
brokers need to be paid as well as workers.
they start hemoraging money

they freak out.
next thing you know
lots of equipment for sale

i've seen it over and over, perhaps a dozen times or more....

Sooo true....right now I know of a mountain of really good organic soil just sitting in a field lmao!

 

[flyer81]

I guess I was worried that it was people that had been busted and were shutting down but I figured that the main reason would be losing their space. I never thought there were people that would drop tens of thousands of dollars on a warehouse and then just drop it like that. With the experience I've gained over the last year in trying to ramp up production in a garage sized space I couldnt imagine what trying to work out problems on a warehouse sized grow would be. Teh amount of skills required when it comes to plumbing, HVAC, electricity, not to mention actually growing plants is pretty hard to buy. Couldnt imagine that people would even try.

 

[Avinash.miles]

flyer it's not as hard as you would think... LOL

 

[flyer81]

Given a discriminating buyer, I would say that it is a lot harder than I expected and that is what I was getting at. The needs of keeping a tent in the ideal conditions are a hell of a lot different then keeping 2000 cubic ft in the ideal conditions, and I couldnt imagine what they would be when dealing with 10,000+ cubic feet.

Getting smokable weed is relatively easy. Getting something that is marketable to a discriminating buyer is a whole different story. Particularly in any kind of quantity.

 

[TheCleanGame]

I'll never understand why people would want to grow weed that doesn't get you high, other than for specific medical purposes like Charlotte's Web.

At age 64, it disturbs this old hippie's sensibilities, somehow.

I understand wanting weed that's not ridiculously potent, that's warm & sociable, not leaving lightweights plastered to the furniture or the ceiling after a coupla tokes. I even get that some people want high CBD's, but wanting weed that doesn't get you high seems like a strange heresy.

To each their own, but pardon me if I smirk after you tell me that you spent a lot of time, effort & money to grow weed that won't get you high.

Too weird.

Don't get me wrong... I like being high. I prefer that over drinking or any drug available.

The downside for me is that I'm autistic and I live with life long, unavoidable, pain. I use cannabis all day, every day.

I'm unable to 'quit' cannabis without seizures so I've always stuck with using cannabis. I'm unable to use indicas to completely remove the pain because I like to function.

The in-between compromise that I've ended up with is medicating with sativa hybrids. The pain is lessened and I can function.

Harlequin made definite and positive changes in my autistic traits and helped a lot better with pain than any other strain to date. Being able to medicate till the pain was gone without having any slow down, motor skills issues or any 'inebriation' of any kind is an outright miracle.

After a decade of personal research into growing cannabis and 5 years in the medicinal end... I can assure you that I'm not wasting my time growing pot that 'doesn't get me high'... lol

I'm definitely looking forward to a significant harvest of this beast.

Keep it Clean!

 

[AlterEgo860]

PEOPLE THINK GROWING IS.. PLANTING SOME SEEDS OR CLONES.. TOSSING THEM UNDER A LIGHT.. FEED THEM THE EXACT WAY IT SAYS ON THE BOTTLE.. AND ULL GROW AMAZING BUDS. .. then they find out wow this is harder then a REAL JOB. and they flop..

or they grow one harvest.. it turns out like shit.. or a small yield.. and they give up ..

I know a dude who quit growing because he couldn't hit 2 grams per watt.. on his FIRST GROW. I was like dude are u kidding.. most amazing growres don't hit those numbers. but then again he thought he could make a half million a year in a 2 bedroom apartment..

 

[VirginHarvester]

Too bad that doesn't eclipse what a shithole of a state that god-forsaken place is, unfortunately.

No kidding. I'm from Florida and that place doesn't deserve to be called a free state in the United States of America. They lock people up for harmless marijuana use to create a "healthy" prison system that bilks taxpayers for money and steals the freedom of otherwise innocent people. Turds I say.

 

[Jhhnn]

Don't get me wrong... I like being high. I prefer that over drinking or any drug available.

The downside for me is that I'm autistic and I live with life long, unavoidable, pain. I use cannabis all day, every day.

I'm unable to 'quit' cannabis without seizures so I've always stuck with using cannabis. I'm unable to use indicas to completely remove the pain because I like to function.

The in-between compromise that I've ended up with is medicating with sativa hybrids. The pain is lessened and I can function.

Harlequin made definite and positive changes in my autistic traits and helped a lot better with pain than any other strain to date. Being able to medicate till the pain was gone without having any slow down, motor skills issues or any 'inebriation' of any kind is an outright miracle.

After a decade of personal research into growing cannabis and 5 years in the medicinal end... I can assure you that I'm not wasting my time growing pot that 'doesn't get me high'... lol

I'm definitely looking forward to a significant harvest of this beast.

Keep it Clean!

I see your point. OTOH, I'm sure that you realize that your needs are quite unusual, the "specific medical purposes" I mentioned.

I also suspect that heavy users have very high tolerance, so they won't notice milder psychoactive properties of low THC strains. They'll still get most people high, just not very high.

I apologize for thread derail, in any case. Enough of that.

There are apparently a lot of different reasons that people get into & out of large scale growing. First off, I think a lot of attempts are very under- capitalized with overly optimistic estimates of costs & yields. There are also strong issues around having security, reliable trained crews & so called "Master Growers" who really aren't.

There's a whole lot to go wrong, particularly indoors. OTOH, there are obviously some very successful operations. From the outside, it looks a lot like the Rock 'n Roll music business, where 1% of the participants make 90% of the money. Like that business, connectedness & relationships seem to be key elements of success.

Having recently come back to cannabis, I'd like to think that maybe there's a place for me in all of it. I've been working on developing contacts & potential partnerships with referrals from friends & coworkers. It's been interesting, to say the least.

Too bad I'm not really in a position where this deal might do me some good-

http://denver.craigslist.org/grd/4154121361.html

 

[TheCleanGame]

I see your point. OTOH, I'm sure that you realize that your needs are quite unusual, the "specific medical purposes" I mentioned.

I also suspect that heavy users have very high tolerance, so they won't notice milder psychoactive properties of low THC strains. They'll still get most people high, just not very high.http://denver.craigslist.org/grd/4154121361.html

When I say it doesn't get you high... I mean it is not capable of getting anyone high... no matter how much they use or what their tolerance level is.

As long as the CBD level is higher than the THC level by at least a few percentage points... the CBD counteracts the psychoactive properties of the THC.

My needs are actually not unusual... I have a condition that's life long and will not end. It's alleviated quite well by the right cannabis and it turns out that these new breeds of high CBD strains have even more potential than I ever expected.

have you actually ever sat down and thought about how many people are eating chemical Rx that should really be using cannabis?

Pain, arthritis, diabetes, blood pressure, nightmares, sleep aids, cough syrups and on and on and on and on... Cannabis that doesn't inebriate opens up a whole new 'medicinal' end for the population.

How many of those people could switch today if the cannabis they used to alleviate their issues didn't affect their daily performance?

As for the craigslist stuff?
I see it as a continuing trend with some whoppers in the future as well.

Right now just about anyone can study up right and grow cannabis that will sell for at least minimum price. What's going to be interesting is when the concept of 'quality' cannabis becomes mainstream.

When you have to grow quality to make money in cannabis... that's when you're going to see some larger operations selling off used equipment as they go out of business.

They legalize outdoor growing? Daaaaaaamn... a whole lot of folks will be tossing their lights and opting for outdoor. With a good 6 bag set of ice-hash bags, you can always clean outdoor acceptably for processing.


Keep it Clean!