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BHOgart Extractor Thread
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furrywall11
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Good ?... I'm been having a challenging time weighing my recovery tank to find out how much I've lost in the run. I think it might just be my crappy weight watchers scale but, I'm always getting different numbers...I can't figure out what a full tank is supposed to weigh - By my calculations a can of butane is 166gms (arrived at this by weighing empty and full cans) so roughly 3 cans per lb with the suggested number of cans being 30 = 10lbs + the 30.3 empty tank weight = 40.3lbs. One time my recovery tank weighed more after a run, so whatever. Lately, I've just been adding cans until it seems like the tank isn't easily taking it them anymore. I notice that the pressure on the system runs higher = 50PSI compared to 30PSI when I just have 30 cans in. I don't recommend doing this.. I just haven't picked up a really good scale yet...looking for one of those sliding Dr.'s scales.
furrywall11
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Anyone ever done a side by side shower/recover vs continuous shower? I just run the tank until it's empty and then do a 1 hour continuous shower.....
Hash Man
Member
?????????
I have the 1 lber... the tank weighs ~9lbs empty... I was told to only get the weight up to to a max of 12.0, which is 3 lbs of solvent.
I just got the bigger tank for the 10" collection pot, which is supposed to hold 10-12 cans, but i believe this is the 3lb setup....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000JFNAMQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1383500934&sr=8-2&pi=SX200
What you want is a refrigerant scale.
Now there are only two size recovery tanks
1lb system holds 5.5Lb or 12-14 cans and inverts for recovery
2.5 and 5 lb tanks will hold 14 lb and has a built in siphon valve .
the best way to run the system is to dump the butane through run it continuos shower for 5-10 minutes to really pull all the solvent through. then recover the extractor down to 0 psi, the red gauge is now the pressure in recovery tank. Your recovery tank is a higher pressure than extractor and the principal of enthalpy will draw the butane out of the recovery tank and into the extractor. higher pressure to lower pressure equalization. now run that in a continuous shower to pull all the butane through and repeat this process several times. dump it out of recovery tank,pull it all through with continuous shower then recover and dump back through . When butane turns into a liquid it looses all of its pressure. so after you are done with an extraction burp the recovery tank from the non straw side till you smell some butane coming out to burp off uncompressible gases. to lower the operating PSI
1lb system holds 5.5Lb or 12-14 cans and inverts for recovery
2.5 and 5 lb tanks will hold 14 lb and has a built in siphon valve .
the best way to run the system is to dump the butane through run it continuos shower for 5-10 minutes to really pull all the solvent through. then recover the extractor down to 0 psi, the red gauge is now the pressure in recovery tank. Your recovery tank is a higher pressure than extractor and the principal of enthalpy will draw the butane out of the recovery tank and into the extractor. higher pressure to lower pressure equalization. now run that in a continuous shower to pull all the butane through and repeat this process several times. dump it out of recovery tank,pull it all through with continuous shower then recover and dump back through . When butane turns into a liquid it looses all of its pressure. so after you are done with an extraction burp the recovery tank from the non straw side till you smell some butane coming out to burp off uncompressible gases. to lower the operating PSI
One of the simple applications of the concept of enthalpy is the so-called throttling process, also known as Joule-Thomson expansion. It concerns a steady adiabatic flow of a fluid through a flow resistance (valve, porous plug, or any other type of flow resistance) as shown in Fig.3a. This process is very important since it is at the heart of domestic refrigerators where it is responsible for the temperature drop between ambient temperature and the interior of the fridge. It is also the final stage in many types of liquefiers.
Using a 6x6 base you should only use about 6 cans otherwise you run the risk of recovering the liquid butane into the lines which is not advised. the frost lines tell you where your fill level is so be careful not to ever get it to close to the lid where the gas is being recovered
this thread is starting to become a problem
there is a lot of bitching and complaining going on and I'm fed up checking on reported posts in this thread
if I have to deal with it once more I will lock it or bin it and maybe even hit a few with ban's
no more "Promoting" bitching or insults you have been warned (more than once)
there is a lot of bitching and complaining going on and I'm fed up checking on reported posts in this thread
if I have to deal with it once more I will lock it or bin it and maybe even hit a few with ban's
no more "Promoting" bitching or insults you have been warned (more than once)
Please don't BIN it!!!! There is a ton of info in here that people like me need!
And, I think the bitching, comparing, one-upping, etc is all done.
It has steadily become an informational thread on the running of the BHOgart specifically and Closed-loop systems in general.
O_O how big was each run? for me to get 93g in two runs would require a 30% extraction rate lol
furrywall11
Member
That's around 12%... very respectable.
Pure777Extracts
Member
Why does everyone keep saying the mk111a is cheaper at $2,162.00 but the bhogart is only 1100$?
It probably depends on where you get your Mk IIIA. I built mine for under $1000.
When I licensed Specialized Formulation, their kit price was under $1000's, because the Mk IIIA was intended for ma and pa.
They've added personnel, and I know they've raised prices to cover both expenses and spending long hours on the phone with owners, but I think that their more expensive kit price may include extra columns and bottoms, etc.
There are other folks out there building Mk IIIA's for sale, so you might shop about for pricing of a base system.
I'm still working on arranging a side by side shoot out between a Mk IIIA vis a vis a BHOgart and think I'm close, but we've experimented with the rainfall design using a Mk IIIA, simply by moving the injection tee from under the column, to the top of the column.
The difference in yield between a bottom flood and a rainfall are not profound, so I would look long and hard before paying double for a Mk IIIA, if indeed those two prices are apples and apples.
When I licensed Specialized Formulation, their kit price was under $1000's, because the Mk IIIA was intended for ma and pa.
They've added personnel, and I know they've raised prices to cover both expenses and spending long hours on the phone with owners, but I think that their more expensive kit price may include extra columns and bottoms, etc.
There are other folks out there building Mk IIIA's for sale, so you might shop about for pricing of a base system.
I'm still working on arranging a side by side shoot out between a Mk IIIA vis a vis a BHOgart and think I'm close, but we've experimented with the rainfall design using a Mk IIIA, simply by moving the injection tee from under the column, to the top of the column.
The difference in yield between a bottom flood and a rainfall are not profound, so I would look long and hard before paying double for a Mk IIIA, if indeed those two prices are apples and apples.
mr. durden
Member
The IIIa at 2162 is pricey... It can be found a lot cheaper out there
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