Triple Action Neem

[Coconutz]

Read about Triple Action Neem here but there arent any soil drench directions. Is it safe to use in the rootzone?
I dunked some new clones today in my last bit of aza after reading the direction on the neem. It said not to use on wilted or stressed plants. Ive had issues with other neem oils in the past destroying plants worse than any bug ever could.
Anyone have experience with this stuff? Whats the difference from other neems? This stuff seems to spread a lot easier.
I think I need to find something at home depot or the dro shop to nail these clones with asap.
I have some bayer 3 in 1 here that Im tempted to use in between my aza and spinosad applications.

 

[Coconutz]

Who the fuck changed the words in my post?

 

[bigbufu]

what ya dealing with coconutz ? root aphids fungus gnats ?

-AJ

 

[Fly by Night]

Who the fuck changed the words in my post?

Seems fairly well written...WAt was taken out homie? Peace

 

[Coconutz]

Just got some clones from a buddy. I tried to spend as little time with them as I could and didnt scope them. Im just gonna treat them as if they have it all. They look like shit anyway but my seeds just got snagged by customs!

 

[Coconutz]

Nothing was taken out but instead of the thieving con-man's place it said thieving con-man. Theres no auto correct and noway it was a mistake. I dont get it.
EDIT:
Holy shit... Its automatic when you type t.h.e. d.e.p.o.t it changes it to thieving con-mans place.
I was gonna say... I havent stolen anything since I was a kid... Is this karma? lol

 

[Coconutz]

Why the neg rep for a question about neem? lol
douchebag

 

[TheCleanGame]

As long as "Clarified hydrophobic extract of Neem Oil" isn't a new definition for "Azadirachtin" then... it should be ok?

Can't remember getting reactions to neem oil back when I used it... of course my 'awareness' of the effects of azadirachtin hadn't developed yet.

Keep it Clean!

 

[Coconutz]

Hydro-Soil?

 

[bigbufu]

wassap coconutz ive dealt with a shit load of different type of bugs so i pretty much know whats up with all of them. What I would do is hit them with the bayer first since it was imid and those root aphids are a bitch. You can dunk the roots or you can run it through the plant while its in the pot so they coco gets rinse if theres anything living in there as well. Then just to be safe I would sprinkle some mosquito dunks on top of the soil if theres any fungus gnats/larvae in they soil or plants you can kiss them goodbye. As for neem and the root drench I just wouldnt. But I use the azamax as a root drench. O by the way when I use the bayer I just use it by itself without nutrients, just me. Let me know if you got any questions coco im pretty good at getting rid of bugs.

-AJ

 

[Coconutz]

Funny, we posted at the same time...
I left them in the bathroom with a NPS and then hit them with the 3 in 1 today. It has a small dose of Imid(.4) and a systemic fungicide.
No idea how well this stuff works. Ive never used it, but Ive never had PM either.
Not sure if the 3 in 1 is supposed to be used as a root drech though...I also have some bayer fruit and citrus on deck.
I plan on using SM-90 with each watering

 

[bigbufu]

id throw some nematodes in your res coconutz if your worried. if you havent used them there pretty cool they come like a sponge and just throw it in your res i change mine every 3 weeks and its organic they eat all the larvae and stuff that could build up in your medium.bayer tree and shrub is the one i use i think thats meant for root drench. imid kicks ass btw if you didnt know. theres more expensive imid products out there but bayer is the most cost efficient and you could pick it up at lowes/home depot etc...

-AJ

 

[Granger2]

Nematodes will live for only a few hours in liquid. They should be applied to the medium. I would hand water them into the medium. I seriously doubt that they will survive imid.

The best form of Azadiractin to drench with, or spray, is Azasol. No oil. Totally water soluble. Much longer shelf life than the oil based forms like Azamax. No phytotoxicity. No oil on roots. No oil all over the place.

Most of the Neem Oil sold is Clarified hydrophobic extract of Neem Oi. They press out the oil, remove most of the azadiractin, and that's what's left. I would definitely NOT apply it to the roots. When sprayed, most of its insecitcidal effects are due to its being an oil. Oils smother insects and eggs, mas o menos. Good luck. -granger

 

[Coconutz]

The clones dont look any better now for sure.
I dunked them in the aza with 5ml of sm90 and then the next day I dipped them in 3 in 1 and watered with fruit and citrus w sm90.
Turns out fruit and citrus has a lower concentration of imid than the 3 in 1.
Hopefully I see some new growth soon. The leaves look soggy like they are covered in oil still.
Perhaps adding the SM90 to the aza was a bad idea.

 

[Coconutz]

They are still droopy and curled up. Should I just toss them and hope my replacement seeds dont get stolen by customs?
Seems weird that the clones couldnt handle a little posion.
I have roots coming out of the cups, but the leaves just look worse everyday

 

[Granger2]

Coconutz,
Where did you order the seeds from that got seized? -granger

 

[Coconutz]

Attitude. Stolen in LA

 

[Coconutz]

I need to put plants in to my room when these come down!

 

[Coconutz]

I just dunked a couple in tap water to see if I could wash them in case the stomata are clogged. The water got pretty oily. We'll see if any of them bounce back. The cups are filling with roots already.

 

[EclipseFour20]

Why the neg rep for a question about neem? lol
douchebag

Probably the idiot Hillbilly that is full of hate and "misinformation". Welcome to the club!

Why are you applying Bayer 3 in 1?...and what is your objective in using Neem in the soil?


Cheers!