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C.A.P. Filed Bankruptcy

watts

ohms
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Just came across this:

C.A.P. products (R and M Supply) has filed for bankruptcy and thereby voided all of their Manufactures warranties. C.A.P retailers will be unable to honor warranties on any previously purchased C.A.P. products, Quantum ballasts, or Quantum Bad Boy T5 light fixtures.
 

rives

Inveterate Tinkerer
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I hate to see anyone forced into bankruptcy, but their engineering practices (laughable description) should have put them out of business long ago. That "universal" receptacle that they were so proud of should have done it all by itself.
 

the gnome

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last year i bought 4 of their extreme 1000w mag ballasts.
they have separate compartments for the transformer and caps-ignitors
one in the original shipping box, unopened,
slipped and fell to the carpet at a distance of 12 inches.
it distorted the entire casing,
opened another,
again unopened in the box a few months later and it was bent all the fook up like the other one. the box looked fine, no damage at all.
it couldn't even take the normal stresses of shipping
after pulling one apart and seeing how the 2 parts were tied together,
its an extremely piss-ass-poor-design engineering wise.
 

Hammerhead

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I have 1 Nano no issues with it.. IMO I think this is there way of re launching there gear under a different name. C.A.P was so bad no one ever bought there stuff. it does not surprise me that they where not making money. After they get this finished I bet they will rebrand..

There's already another Extreme Nano under a different name called Nanolux. Look exactly like the Extreme offered by hydrofarm
 

watts

ohms
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I read that Hydrofarm bought C.A.P. and will be using their products as hydrofarm's value line. Not sure if it's true.
 

Hammerhead

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If Hydrofarm bought them they are responsible for all there debts. Not much to buy they had a lot of products but most where unsafe to use. I don't see hydrofarm putting there name on that junk unless its redesigned to be safe and reliable.
 

watts

ohms
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came across this just now:

http://hydrofarm.com/about-hydrofarm/randm-supply_announcement.php

Hydrofarm recently acquired certain R & M Supply product lines. We will continue to offer some of their brands, including the popular Digilux, MaxLume, C.A.P. and Quantum. Within these brands, many products will continue to be offered, but a number of specific items will be discontinued.

For pending business matters with R & M, please contact R & M directly. If you purchased an R & M product and have warranty questions, please contact the original place of purchase. Please note that as we are only continuing with specific products, warranty coverage will be limited to those items, under specific guidelines.
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
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that makes sense. they probably discontinued some of there timers/controller's. I had one get so hot it melted the plastic housing .
 

Holdin'

Moon-grass farmer
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Hmm well, I suppose I should've been a little bit more persistent about one of my 8" CAP fans. I attempted to get it warrantied, but seemed I was dealing with illiterate reps and was getting very poor customer service. They couldn't figure out how to extract info from a PDF file and told me the only way they would honor the warranty was if I faxed the paperwork. I just said "fuck it"... too much trouble for a $120 fan anyways. Vortex all the way, baby.
 

the gnome

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I have 1 Nano no issues with it.. IMO I think this is there way of re launching there gear under a different name. C.A.P was so bad no one ever bought there stuff. it does not surprise me that they where not making money. After they get this finished I bet they will rebrand..

There's already another Extreme Nano under a different name called Nanolux. Look exactly like the Extreme offered by hydrofarm

the nano elec ballast is the one of the few things i haven't heard people having issues with
 
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OrganicOzarks

I have many, many of their high temp shutoffs, and they all end up melting. I have one that almost caught my grow on fire. Luckily I was there when it happened. If not, shit would have been burned to the ground.
 

the gnome

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here's a pic of the ballast that was in the box that fell on the carpet.
i was carrying it by only one hand hold on the box when i felt the box starting to rip.
so i was setting it down when it went.
it was maybe 12" prob less when it hit the padded carpet

picture.php


i took the other one apart, which is a major pita and impossible to separate the 2 compartments unless you cut all the wires from the trans. to the caps/ignitors and switches
AND
its even more of a pain to get it put back together.
reason why i haven't messed with the one in the pic...
you can't even get the handle loose(2 screws) with out a taking a pile of other crap loose... ?
it really is an engineering nitemare to work on em.
the only positive thing i can say is being a mag ballast there's not much to go wrong like their other equipment I'm hearing about.
and at the $99 per i paid for each ballast it helps.

except for the smell on one of them i fired up 2 weeks ago that has a very strong plastic on fukin fire smell..... :jerkit:
 
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hvac guy

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About frigging time CRAP went out of business. On the plus side, I have been inundated with several local hydro stores needing a service tech to repair their products, especially the lighting controllers.
 

hvac guy

Active member
If you need a high temp shutoff, get a RANCO etc111000 and use that, they're about $75 but well worth it.
 
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