Girl Scout Cookies

[pappy masonjar]

 

[Arminius]

Similar THC:CBD profile, only lower? or was that different as well?

Here is the indoor report.

Took them to 63 days.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

sounds like someone is drinking some hater aide let the man live u mad cause yours dont test that high? Let the man live and enjoy his results nice job ARMINIUS! Also just want to know how u would know about SC labs in the bay when u live in MI or is it something you have read on the net? Or maybe if you have a SC labs in MI maybe they just suck? just my 2 cents.. peace mike

SC labs has a video on YouTube about how they calculate Their numbers homie. They outed themselves. Plus I have talked to many people who are very reputable and have had hundreds of lab tests done by different labs in Cali. Including Kyle kushman who had SC labs test his ghost train haze at 29%. When he sent the samples to steephill and the werc shop, it came back at 23-24%.

Out here in MI, Iron labs is in the process of being nationally accredited, and will soon be one of less than 5 labs in the country who have allowed their process to be observed and certified to be accurate scientifically. That's where I get my shit tested. They don't list THCA numbers at all on GC tests, because it's irrelevant.

 

[pappy masonjar]

Keep in mind this is another sincere question. I know very little about this stuff. IM NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYONE, JUST UNDERSTAND THIS SUBJECT BETTER.

TICKLE- but if the thca is converted to thc when heated or smoked, wouldnt the thca number be somewhat relevant?

 

[GET MO]

My indoor only tested 22.9%, hence no more indoor for me. I have plenty of strains that are not as fickle. Outside she is a completely different plant!

^This^. For me the forum puts on WEIGHT outside too, I top the shit out of it and do a scrog with the sun, nothing but tops and a whole lot of them. The nugs are smaller than other plants but they are so dense they barely shrink and weigh a lot. I wont run her indoors anymore, not enough yield for the amount of lighting, but I think she will stay in my outdo lineup for years to come. personally I like the outdoor smoke better too, flavor and high on point.
edit:you can also take the tops and the next round swells up in a few weeks and it looks like all tops again.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

No, because not all of the THCA converts to Delta-9 THC. Their numbers don't make sense, because if you are testing a sample for THCA, there should be almost zero delta-9 in it. What it seems like they do is take a reading from a midway point in the GC process, just when the THCA starts to convert, so they get a reading on both, and then add them together for a higher number.

THCA is what you are ingesting if you eat a nugget fresh. Delta 9 is what you ingest if you combust that nug and inhale the smoke.

 

[Arminius]

There are other labs in the bay. THCA+ delta 9 means nothing. As THCA converts to delta9. They should be measuring D9 results after they are activated. Not pre activated THCA levels. SC tests are always 4-5% higher than other labs because they don't employ the proper process. Go get it tested at steep hill/halent. Bet it comes back at like 21-22%.

My original statement still holds true, in that I don't need another lab, since the stores that I deal with overwhelmingly use SC Labs. If there was a significant presence of another lab, I would gladly use another lab just for redundancy.
I may do it either way, since I prefer to have the best tech available. I assume I can just google "steep hill/halent" right?

 

[Arminius]

Much respect bro! i noticed your outdoor cookies was 1% thc and 25% thca. Im not in a med state, but dont think ive seen numbers like that b4, Is that common?

a for the record, i know thca converts to thc when heated/smoked. so i guess it wouldnt matter. just wondering

If you look at any flower test, or concentrate using minimal heat, you will notice overwhelmingly that the compounds still have the carbolic acid attached. If you check the last page of my thread I posted tests of decarbed material, and briefly explained the process. At this point I am having a hard time justifying making shatter, since edibles, tinctures, and capsules bring a much higher price on the retail market.
I have tested materials at various stages of decarboxylation. For example I tested what most people would call "budder" at 86% total active cannabanoids, but the THC content was about 20% and the THCA was in the 60's. All that means is that you can now absorb without heat a portion of the active compounds. I also have a test of material heated to 200 for 2 hours in my vacuum oven. Almost complete decarboxylation. Of 86% TAC, 83% are bioavailable, and ready to be mixed with glycerin, alcohol, or MCT oil...

 

[Arminius]

No, because not all of the THCA converts to Delta-9 THC. Their numbers don't make sense, because if you are testing a sample for THCA, there should be almost zero delta-9 in it. What it seems like they do is take a reading from a midway point in the GC process, just when the THCA starts to convert, so they get a reading on both, and then add them together for a higher number.

THCA is what you are ingesting if you eat a nugget fresh. Delta 9 is what you ingest if you combust that nug and inhale the smoke.

I am not sure when the last time you read, or had an experience with SC Labs, but they are a very dynamic company, and I am sure they are aware of the continually evolving tech surrounding cannabis. I have sat down with Ian Rice, as well as some of their lab techs. I have confidence they will be on the cutting edge in the future, if not currently.
Luckily, I live 5 minutes from their new lab, so I may have more insight that others.
One thing they are working on, that should be up and running in the next 60 days, is the ability to detect terpenes by name, and content. While the medicinal qualities of terpenes are minimal compared to THC and CBD, they represent what you smell, as I am sure you are aware of. Some people really want the terps, others prefer a partially decarbed material, purely subjective IMO.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Iron labs has been doing mass spec terpene analysis is for a year and a half. Werc shop has been doing it for 3 years... SC labs is way behind the times. I will post my recent test where I almost matched THC content with terpene content. 17.25% thc 16.33% total terpenoid content if anyone is interested.

 

[Rainman]

So what im hearing is that you dont really care about the accuracy of the test results,what it means for patients, just that the folks you sell it to, buy it and everyone can say we all got it tested at the same inaccurate test site?? Whaaaaat??? Someone selling bad/inaccurate/info/herb/clones/genetics/etc.... for a profit in the MMJ community!!?? Say it ain't so Chuck!!

Can we end the MMJ farce once and for all and just let people have their herb?

 

[Gold Hill Ganja]

Thanks guys....post pics if you get em!

What's up miscbrah? Check out my outdoor cookie, she's in ground 100 gallons of super soil gold hill recipe. Water only monthly AACT and botanical teas. Just finished harvesting her this weekend looks like about 5-6 pounds.

 

[Arminius]

So what im hearing is that you dont really care about the accuracy of the test results,what it means for patients, just that the folks you sell it to, buy it and everyone can say we all got it tested at the same inaccurate test site?? Whaaaaat??? Someone selling bad/inaccurate/info/herb/clones/genetics/etc.... for a profit in the MMJ community!!?? Say it ain't so Chuck!!

Can we end the MMJ farce once and for all and just let people have their herb?

You are way off base! I use my own medicine. I live in one of the most expensive cities in the entire nation, and my PG&E bill is higher than most. I need to be compensated, in order to produce the medicine for my use, and fellow "patients".
If the industry standard is based on a certain lab doing tests, the only way to ensure my medicine is on par, is to compare it to other medicine tested by the same lab.
What would you suppose I do, give the medicine away? You are clueless if you don't realize cash value of your crop is a factor you must consider.
Yes, it is so Chuck, if you think people are in this industry to give away their hard earned work, then I can only assume you are an envious, incapable grower.

 

[RB26]

I use SC Labs the majority of the time, and Steep Hill when I'm in SF. While I'm not an expert, I'm sure both methodologies have their merits. Let's just get back to the cookies huh?

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Yes, the merit of SC is that they will give you a higher number, so you can sell you packs for a premium... Meanwhile setting back the actual scientific progress of the industry...

 

[ForestBuds]

nom, nom cookies.... how does Kyle Kushman's Veganic Cookie compares to other cookies? Finished sample looked mighty dank and had a LOUD smell. Unfortunately.. didn't have the chance to smoke it.

 

[Adrift]

few more pics of my big cookies mama!

i have not measured her, but i would say she is about 6 foot tall..

 

[RB26]

Drift, what cut is that? Hows the yield? Looks pretty decent!

 

[yortbogey]

 

[StoneyK]

growers new to the thread need to refer back a page to adrift and endurs pics before asking if their cut is authentic lol

Not sure if that was for me or not. I did my homework before posting. Really I shoukdnt have even asked picture idenrification is guesswork just too many variables that can change how any plant looks. I knew better I was just bein impatient.
I met up with my buddy I got the cut from its from cloneville and he brought me some of the finished product and its unmistakable I was just gettin ahead of myself. Theres never been reason to doubt my guy an it looks like thats still the case.
I almost didnt post my pics because I was afraid people woukd see my post and assume because people said they dont look like theirs, they run different cuys so no big surprise there though.

Happy halloween to all!!!!