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From shower to soak

Hash Man

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Hi guys, im thinking if going from 3-4 showers a run to 1 soak, dump, and recover. I have an extracter with a base made from a 6" sanitary spool. I have a 12" base coming and a bigger solvent tank to match. So my question is this. I have a 3 foot long by 2" sanitary spoll that holds the material. Is this too long to get a good soak? Right now i can only use 5 cans of solvent at a time. Will this even be enough liquid to soak the column properly? I use an appion g5 to recover solvent. My plan was to use my new ball valve to stop the flow of solvent above the looking glass. Then, open the valve from my solvent tank to start the flow. Im planning on keeping the solvent valve open until the psi raises to 80-90 psi, then shut off the solvent valve and the valve at the top of my extractor. Then i plan to let it soak, monitering the psi with the gauge i added to the top of the extractor. After an hour, release the ball valve above the sight glass and drop the solvent. Then i will open the valve at the top of the extractor, open the solvent tank valve to flood a little more solvent through. After this, i will turn on my appion and recover to -22hg. See any issues with my plan? Will i need a shorter spool to hold my material or will i be able to soak properly with what i have?

 

triple3

New member
Hey Hash Man, i am wondering if you tried this procedure? I am looking to buy a closed loop system and my big question is the capacity of the Bhogart really worth it of the yield is not there as compared to Mark3a design. I have been reading your experiences with your Bhogart and wonder what you think--are the Bhogarts more for trim rather than bud?
The column size has me worried its like blasting perhaps,where i never get the % yield that GW gets with the narrow 1 1/2" columns and bottom filling the tube.
 

Hash Man

Member
triple3- the soak method didnt work as the ball valve cut off the flow of the appion... You can slow te flow down enoug by keeping the appion off during the first injection of solvent.
 

triple3

New member
So what do you think of the Bhogart top down approach Hash Man?
I posed a question on the Bhogart extractor thread today regarding how the design differences between the Skunkpharm and Bhogart would play out in real life yield...GW stated he's into doing a shootout!! Stoked
I have no dog in this fight...i just wanna the pros and cons of each system to to know which one to purchase...
GW has gotten very impressive yields with the narrower columns...
it's not possible for me to get those numbers with thermos method or blasting
 
HM, what do you mean the ball valve cut the flow of the appion? Didnt you flood the tube from the top using the pressurized liquid coming from the dip tube of a refrigerant tank?
let me see if I understand this process properly because I am interested in doing the same and I hope I can learn from what you have tried.

So...
1. flood tube with liquid tane from recovery tank. Ball valve to collection pot closed. High side on manifold closed.
2. Close recovery tank.
3. open ball valve to collection vessel, turn on appion, open red (high side) valve on manifold to shower tane from collection pot back down the tube.
4. close blue valve to stop showering, open recovery tank and recover solvent

is this what you tried? I'm having a hard time thinking of a reason this wouldnt work.
 

Hash Man

Member
Yea man i couldn't think of a reason it wouldn't work either, but it didnt work well. Slowed the process down and jacked the high side up a bit.The ball valve gets stuck after a few uses. I would recommend getting a customized setup for soak or just running the bhogart normally.

Its been so long i dont remember if i did it in the order u are saying bit it was basically the same idea. I now run my bhogart normally. I have done first runs a second runs ro see how much fot left behind and its only a few grams so i would say the shower works well.
 

Gray Wolf

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Hi guys, im thinking if going from 3-4 showers a run to 1 soak, dump, and recover. I have an extracter with a base made from a 6" sanitary spool. I have a 12" base coming and a bigger solvent tank to match. So my question is this. I have a 3 foot long by 2" sanitary spoll that holds the material. Is this too long to get a good soak? Right now i can only use 5 cans of solvent at a time. Will this even be enough liquid to soak the column properly? I use an appion g5 to recover solvent. My plan was to use my new ball valve to stop the flow of solvent above the looking glass. Then, open the valve from my solvent tank to start the flow. Im planning on keeping the solvent valve open until the psi raises to 80-90 psi, then shut off the solvent valve and the valve at the top of my extractor. Then i plan to let it soak, monitering the psi with the gauge i added to the top of the extractor. After an hour, release the ball valve above the sight glass and drop the solvent. Then i will open the valve at the top of the extractor, open the solvent tank valve to flood a little more solvent through. After this, i will turn on my appion and recover to -22hg. See any issues with my plan? Will i need a shorter spool to hold my material or will i be able to soak properly with what i have?

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An hour soak will most likely give you an electric green extract.

A 2X36 column will work with a 12 X 12 base but is a little over the top with a 6 X 6" spool. It would work with a 6X12 spool, but wouldn't be very fast to recover.
 

Hash Man

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An hour soak will most likely give you an electric green extract.

A 2X36 column will work with a 12 X 12 base but is a little over the top with a 6 X 6" spool. It would work with a 6X12 spool, but wouldn't be very fast to recover.

It was dark. I have the ball valves still and they wont budge cause they are so sticky, and i agree its no good u cant rebuild them.
 

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