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indimaniac

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I have eight flowering ladies right now that have been growing perfectly and are gorgeous! and I have not had any problems at all knock on wood bought the last couple weeks I haven't been seeing very much growth I am in my 9th week of flower right now and I have a few I'm flushing out and I have two pineapple chunk plants a big and small, and the big one is still in perfect health but the small one was one big cola... so the other day I noticed it was kind of starting to feel fluffy which was out of the ordinary because typically it was one big rock hard bud, after a few days went by I started noticing the leaves mottling a little and starting to cup and just look deformed as well as wierd brown black and grey coloration on leaves and today the one big coIa has just disappeared!? U can grab it and feel leaves n stem the bud is still there but its just fluffly nothing!? Thats when I began to panic and realized the big girls are actually have some leaves showing similar issues:-O I would cry if this happened to my big girls after all the time money and effort so I wanna FIX IT!! Problem is ive never seen something like this accept in like viral?? I'm going to post some pics so that people can tell me what they think but I'm kind of panicking here and I'm really hoping that somebody can give me some insight as soon as possible PLEEEAAAASE!!
 

indimaniac

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pic of the sic lady and her sisters simalar marks...

pic of the sic lady and her sisters simalar marks...

20131021_190303.jpg these are leaves from other girls

20131021_172743.jpg this is the sick lady pic1

20131021_172806.jpg pic2

20131021_173821.jpg this is another lady does this look like the same issue!!??

20131021_172735.jpg pic3
 
From what I see here - Ok see how the leaves are small, very dark green, curling/hanging, leathery , hanging down instead of large leaves with light/normal green color and leaves lifting up toward the light like solar panels aligning themselves with the sun. These plants are over fed and burnt up.
 

RonSmooth

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Botrytis?

But rot will turn the insides of big colas to mush. The first sign is dying pin leaves.

Try pulling on one of the dying leaves. If it pulls right out with little resistance, its rot.

Try opening up one of the affected colas and you'll know if its botrytis.
 

indimaniac

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Ya see im familiar with the rot... inside the buds just is dry fluffy and shredded... leaves pull out but only some, and not like from rot... they dont just fall out, over fed I suppose is possible as ive been feeding heavy now that we are close to the end, but ive never seen anything more than slight burn on the very tips of leaves so to get that bad wouldnt it show burn getting worse rather than just getting like this over a few days just randomly when none of the others or another same strain clone were reacting like this to the same doses actually I had some of the leaves yellowing like deficiency cuz I havent fed in a wk and last water was straight water!? They would yellow if they were that over fed would they!?? Ive been thinking about just flushing for a few days as I know theres heavy salt build up... I can see it in the bottom of the soil:-O and its close to final flush time anyway??
 

medicalmj

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Besides the salt build up, some possible mold, I think they kinda look like the light cycle is messed up. Seems like they may have started to reveg.
 

indimaniac

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Yea no mold, im a basement grower so im familiar to say the least lol this def isnt mold and I always cut my nutes down for a week before starting my 2wk final flush, unless of course I miss read and dont have time then I just flush as long as I can... light cycle.. hmmmm... well I have had an extra setting on my light timer recently and found out my light has been coming on for ten min every night during their dark period for the last two weeks:-( but I couldnt see that causing one plant to get goofy but not affect the others.... I flushed all the girls last night extremely, and very thoroughly and im hoping they clear I was leaning toward nute burn or ph shift causing nute burn would be more likely, beings it was only one plant that this happened to?
 

medicalmj

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Yea no mold, im a basement grower so im familiar to say the least lol this def isnt mold and I always cut my nutes down for a week before starting my 2wk final flush, unless of course I miss read and dont have time then I just flush as long as I can... light cycle.. hmmmm... well I have had an extra setting on my light timer recently and found out my light has been coming on for ten min every night during their dark period for the last two weeks:-( but I couldnt see that causing one plant to get goofy but not affect the others.... I flushed all the girls last night extremely, and very thoroughly and im hoping they clear I was leaning toward nute burn or ph shift causing nute burn would be more likely, beings it was only one plant that this happened to?

A 10 minute interruption in the dark cycle will most definetly cause them to re-veg. Perhaps the other one is starting to re-veg but hasn't proceeded as quickly. I've re-vegged many and your pic definitely has tale-tell signs. It usually takes a couple weeks for the plant to show signs once the light cycle is changed.

Cannabis sativa/indica is a short day plant. It has to have an uninterrupted dark cycle(10-12 hours of dark is sufficient) to flower.
 

gaiusmarius

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light cycle interrupting is what it looks like, they are too leafy and not meaty like they should be. for the leaves they look like they been getting sprayed with the lights on, or the soil mix is totally out of balance.

the most important part of the light cycle is the uninterrupted 12 hours of darkness, without that the flowering hormone gets reduced and the plants go back towards veg. it takes a few days of uninterrupted darkness for the flowering hormone to be concentrated enough to cause the plant to switch from veg to flowering.

some plants can deal with light interruptions better then others. some strains are known to make hermies straight away if you interrupt the dark phase. but normally they will just start making lots of single fingered leaves start growing out of what is supposed to grow into a cola, lol.
 
Dude your foliage looks FRIED! Seriously bro as far as I can see it looks like definite nute overkill.

Edit: or like Gaiusmarius mentioned being sprayed with something and then too close to the light maybe. To my eye if they got their cycle interrupted that could be your issue as far as bud density, but without a doubt you have other things going on.

Some more info should reveal the issue.

What is your medium, what nutes, how much do you use, and how often?

Also what kind of lighting, and what are your temps?

I would also be curious to see a pic of the one you consider to be in perfect health as a comparison.
 

indimaniac

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clear things up...

clear things up...

Like I said this is one lady... im including some pics of the others from the grow so u can see ya lmfao the point of these posts is the fact that that lady is fried but im trying to figure out why! It was an out of the blue thing and none of the others did it not even another clone from the same mom I was thinking viral in the begining and didnt wanna lose my other ladys... but heres the rest of the pretty ladys;-)
 

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indimaniac

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As u can see I have all colas like 1 liter bottles:) and the oplant that I posted those pics of to start this thread with has been moved but it had a cola like that as well rock hard too and over a few days leaves turned gray black then into brown and dark green like feaf edges and the bud just looked loose and shredded and over a few days turned into a puff of cotton candy that just has nothing to it!!? And im scared of losing any other girls!!! Ive never seen a lady do something like that and I dont know what to do to prevent it in the future!!!
 

medicalmj

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Like I said this is one lady... im including some pics of the others from the grow so u can see ya lmfao the point of these posts is the fact that that lady is fried but im trying to figure out why! It was an out of the blue thing and none of the others did it not even another clone from the same mom I was thinking viral in the begining and didnt wanna lose my other ladys... but heres the rest of the pretty ladys;-)

I hear ya. The one that's f*cked up appears to have had salt build up/ nute imbalance, which you have addressed w the flush, and it's finished anyways.

Pic 5 and the bud you are holding do appear to have too many finger leaves and looks like some re-veg. You have some younger ones that look good and a frosty one that looks fine, no re-veg.

What strains you growing?
 

Harry Gypsna

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It looks like a combination of overfeeding, and the problem with your timer.

This happened to me with my 1st crop. The timer was sticking on and my plants started to reveg.
 
OK cool so you are obviously not a newb on his first grow I can tell that from your pics and setup.

Yeah man I think you're just feeding them too much. Most likely the other plants were/are able to handle it better than that one, or there was a fatal salt buildup for her. The reason I say that is because your leaves are showing signs of lockout. Spots, discoloration on some leaves. Others have a crinkle to them that says to me they are a bit OD'ed.

What kind of food are you giving them? How much? Are you using an EC/PPM meter?

Either way, there's not much you can do now and looks like you're going to have a great harvest regardless, minus one plant.

But for next round I'd lock down a solid feeding regimen with a less is more mindset. I've been through lots of different nutes and mediums. It wasn't till I switched to coco and started reading journals of growers I really admire that I realized I was feeding too much. Now I feed less than half what I used to and they taste and yield better than ever.

If you are interested in reading some journals from some top notch growers I can recommend a few via pm for you. I have learned so damn much from this site it really IMO is home to the very best of the entire online growing community.

Anyways, good luck bro.
 

indimaniac

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Older ones are super skunk bf pineapple chunk, super lemon haze, and headband... the young ones are delicious caramello, another slh and headband, I have more clones in veg and just popped another slh hoping for a better pheno (this one seems good for scrog) cuz this one shows wierd traits that make it hard to tell when its done it gets amber trichs at like 5wks flower... speaking of amber at 5wks ive had three generations of caramello that starts flower with.cloudy trichs that turn amber about a month into flower making it nearly impossible to kno when to harvest just had to have a few grows of that strain under my belt to figure it out... bit it is a quite superb smoke:)
 
Like I said this is one lady... im including some pics of the others from the grow so u can see ya lmfao the point of these posts is the fact that that lady is fried but im trying to figure out why! It was an out of the blue thing and none of the others did it not even another clone from the same mom I was thinking viral in the begining and didnt wanna lose my other ladys... but heres the rest of the pretty ladys;-)


Mabey could be this ? Have you heard of hot spots in soil? Cheap soil does this sometimes pro mix will also but pro mix is the most reliable soil for not having hot spots imo. I would check the ph. I would almost be certain that that's your issue. The hot spots are low in ph causing the plant to not get certain minerals.

So if you have ph issues the plant locks nutrients out then they just build up in the soil while the others are feeding.

Does that sound even remotely like whats going on???????
Im just guessing so don't bust my balls if im wrong.
 
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