wtf are you talking about. Do you realize how many sick and dying people use dispensaries as a way to access medicine? Many cant grow at home as you say is the only option.
Your comment shows your ignorance on this issue very well.
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Plummeting Marijuana Prices for Growers
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wtf are you talking about. Do you realize how many sick and dying people use dispensaries as a way to access medicine? Many cant grow at home as you say is the only option.
Your comment shows your ignorance on this issue very well.
Hello all,
Dispensaries have created their own negative view....and really, this sick and dying bullshit is not a concern of dispensaries (edit:..the majority of dispensaries)...they are a business and as such their charter is to profit.
If you have to use one....that's a shame.
I see dispensaries as they are...for profit organizations that provide a service. The difference between the guy illegally dealing and the dispensaries is of course the legal aspects but also have storefront with soothing music, incense and security.
Much more overhead also. Employee benefits add to the added markup.
No, if you are trapped using a dispensary, that is too bad.
The good news is that when cannabis does go legal, there will be more and more folks growing their own and perhaps they will help with your medical needs.
minds_I
yay, homegrown.
Dispensaries have created their own negative view....and really, this sick and dying bullshit is not a concern of dispensaries (edit:..the majority of dispensaries)...they are a business and as such their charter is to profit.
If you have to use one....that's a shame.
I see dispensaries as they are...for profit organizations that provide a service. The difference between the guy illegally dealing and the dispensaries is of course the legal aspects but also have storefront with soothing music, incense and security.
Much more overhead also. Employee benefits add to the added markup.
No, if you are trapped using a dispensary, that is too bad.
The good news is that when cannabis does go legal, there will be more and more folks growing their own and perhaps they will help with your medical needs.
minds_I
yay, homegrown.
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anonymousgrow
Active member
Just donated some of my outdoor meds to a club in sf 10k for 6. Could be better but not bad. Cash, no consignment.
I heard about "certified organic" of AAA has been getting offers for 3.5-4k in the bay still from certain dispensaries. Not sure if this is true, but the guy who told me is generally pretty reliable. I forgot which ones he said they were but will ask later when I talk to him.
Also Not sure how much this organic test costs to be certified, but this is something I will be looking into in the future.
Also Not sure how much this organic test costs to be certified, but this is something I will be looking into in the future.
SirStynkalot
Member
Guise, weed prices are falling and have been for a while. Alls it means is it's time to grow better pot, move to where the work is, or get outta the business. It's going to start being legalized across the US within our lifetimes.
Has anyone checked to see how old this thread is? I literally made my ICmag account just to post on this exact same thread like two years ago. The trend has been identified. Time to nut up or shut up.
And certified organic might be selling okay to some places in Cali, but WA at least and I believe CO as well are requiring certified organic, fully tested weed for their legal sales. That's not going to be a selling point for long.
Same with the whole dispensary scene, at least in WA tbh.
Those places at the moment own the market just because there's no legal competition for em, but all over WA the quality of dispensary stuff is down the drain. They have maybe a couple competent growers selling to em at most and they charge the public $15 a gram for that stuff, even though the grower's probably only seeing 2-2.5k a pound.
WA's declaring open season on legal growing and tying up the retail end, meaning any grower who tries to pass off the stuff people have been seeing in dispensaries for the last 10 years will be outta business faster than they can blink. There'll be 5 other bankrolled, professional growers standing in line behind him to try and move a properly finished product at the same price. The hobbyist closet grower's leftovers after he picks out his head stash isn't gonna cut it past the first month of open doors, especially not if the state stores are beating the pants off dispensary prices the way they're projecting. They made the math the dispensaries are working from public as a part of the legalization debate and basically the state thinks it can undercut dispensaries by up to a third just because of the ridiculous profit margins they've been clearing in the absense of legal competition.
Has anyone checked to see how old this thread is? I literally made my ICmag account just to post on this exact same thread like two years ago. The trend has been identified. Time to nut up or shut up.
And certified organic might be selling okay to some places in Cali, but WA at least and I believe CO as well are requiring certified organic, fully tested weed for their legal sales. That's not going to be a selling point for long.
Same with the whole dispensary scene, at least in WA tbh.
Those places at the moment own the market just because there's no legal competition for em, but all over WA the quality of dispensary stuff is down the drain. They have maybe a couple competent growers selling to em at most and they charge the public $15 a gram for that stuff, even though the grower's probably only seeing 2-2.5k a pound.
WA's declaring open season on legal growing and tying up the retail end, meaning any grower who tries to pass off the stuff people have been seeing in dispensaries for the last 10 years will be outta business faster than they can blink. There'll be 5 other bankrolled, professional growers standing in line behind him to try and move a properly finished product at the same price. The hobbyist closet grower's leftovers after he picks out his head stash isn't gonna cut it past the first month of open doors, especially not if the state stores are beating the pants off dispensary prices the way they're projecting. They made the math the dispensaries are working from public as a part of the legalization debate and basically the state thinks it can undercut dispensaries by up to a third just because of the ridiculous profit margins they've been clearing in the absense of legal competition.
norcal_sourD
Active member
For 6 od units in Norcal at almost harvey season?? Sounds like a great price to me!
lemonskunk
Member
hows the bc prices now?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/marijuana-cost-_n_4159325.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
Posted: 10/25/13 EDT | Updated: 10/25/13 EDT
Here's Where To Find The Cheapest Weed In The U.S
Marijuana prohibition costs a lot — not just to taxpayers, who have contributed hundreds of millions of dollars to the Obama administration's war against medical marijuana and provide billions of dollars each year to cover the enforcement of marijuana possession laws. Consumers must buy weed from drug dealers in most states, paying a hefty risk premium whether they are buying for medical or recreational purposes.
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Infographic by Troy Dunham for The Huffington Post.
American weed is cheapest in the western states, including Washington and Colorado, where it is legal at the state level but production and distribution remain tightly regulated. Because growing and storing marijuana is so cheap, some experts predict that weed in an open legal market could cost about as much as “other legal herbs such as tea or tobacco." This doesn't take into account taxes or possible changes in demand, but regardless, the money wouldn't be going to criminals who may be selling harder drugs, have no incentive to sell only to adults, and impose other costs on society and on our legal system.
This week Uruguay's drug czar said the country plans to sell weed for just $1 a gram — not to make money but to destroy the black market. Meanwhile, a Gallup poll released Tuesday shows that a record 58 percent of Americans support marijuana legalization.
OldSSSCGuy
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That Huffington graphic is not accurate. Friends of mine in New York say that its been consistently $400-$600 for years; but the Huffy map says its only a max of $350. Map shows NYC costing the same as Michigan? Huh?
I know I am the one that posted it but I think they are off in some states; they are limited just like anyone like everyone else when studying an underground limited information market.
its got decent ballpark figures... but no one but mayb delivery services in nyc is getting 400 + on zips.. that really heady high priced indoor market in the northeast is pretty much dead.. i know guys who were getting $7300 a lb 5 years ago that are getting $3900 now...full season cali od (can be) so nice n so cheap that its made indoor/outdoor less of an issue. sucks if ur an illegal east coast indoor grower, but what can you do?
and as someone who really appreciates good herb, iam really blown away by some of the od ive seen lately. there is something to be said about full season sun grown herb...at least in my opinion. maybe its just the change in herb, but i get so much more ripped of my buddy in santa cruzs od vs my own indoor... (just dont tell anyone i said so)..lol
and as someone who really appreciates good herb, iam really blown away by some of the od ive seen lately. there is something to be said about full season sun grown herb...at least in my opinion. maybe its just the change in herb, but i get so much more ripped of my buddy in santa cruzs od vs my own indoor... (just dont tell anyone i said so)..lol
username474
Active member
I just looked at the site Huffpost got it's numbers from. Check it out for a good laugh.
How a supposed actual news site could take info from it is beyond laughable. Someone
from VT posted they pay 650 per oz for low quality and huffpost factored it into their
average price of high/med./low.
How a supposed actual news site could take info from it is beyond laughable. Someone
from VT posted they pay 650 per oz for low quality and huffpost factored it into their
average price of high/med./low.
I've bought far more of what I've smoked than I've ever grown. Having done both and smoking maybe 2-4 oz's a year I think it will be like most everything else I buy. It is just easier to buy than produce. I could garden and save money on groceries but I don't. I could cook or eat at home and save a fortune but eat out 1 out of 4 meals. It gets down to convenience. The market will be huge but so will the competition. In the past 2 years I feel like legalization is 5 - 10 years away. When that day comes I will grow again. Not to save money even with the price drop or the taxes. I'll grow again because it is a lot of fun and I should be able to. I don't care if I still smoke or not. This may not make sense to some but neither is the reason pot will end up being legal. Pot will be legal not because it is the right thing to do. Pot will be legal because of the money. Watch what happens in Colorado this year. Every state is going to want to get on the money train and each state will be like dominoes falling. It's going to be fun to watch.
the hollow
Member
I agree. I think the federal gov. will be forced to legalize as soon as the number of states that vote it in reaches 26 states. I honestly believe that's what they're waiting for.
Once the majority of states approve of it the federal gov. will be forced to legalize.
There are states that will never ever legalize in our lifetime like say Texas and other Bible Belt states...lived/worked in a few I wouldn't hold breath
IGROWMYOWN,
I was born in one of those states and live in another one. When I left to go to college strip bars were illegal and gambling was strictly done in back rooms or through bookies. In the 4-5 years I was gone the state was inundated with casinos and strip clubs were everywhere. I never would have thought it but it happened. The state is hooked on casino money and it's here to stay. The same is true of what will happen in pot. All it will take is 1 state bordering one that is losing the money to make the change. I agree there is an element that will never legalize in their lifetime but that age group is 70 and up for the most part and they are dying out. Whatever side of the issue you fall on a simple fact remains. People are going to use marijuana whether it is taxed by the black market or by the state. At some point the people are going to want the money to be taxed. The politicians are going to go with the vote flow and not due to courage on their part.
I was born in one of those states and live in another one. When I left to go to college strip bars were illegal and gambling was strictly done in back rooms or through bookies. In the 4-5 years I was gone the state was inundated with casinos and strip clubs were everywhere. I never would have thought it but it happened. The state is hooked on casino money and it's here to stay. The same is true of what will happen in pot. All it will take is 1 state bordering one that is losing the money to make the change. I agree there is an element that will never legalize in their lifetime but that age group is 70 and up for the most part and they are dying out. Whatever side of the issue you fall on a simple fact remains. People are going to use marijuana whether it is taxed by the black market or by the state. At some point the people are going to want the money to be taxed. The politicians are going to go with the vote flow and not due to courage on their part.
D's
Member
Congress is not Progress
Congress is not Progress
I believe the correct % is 75% of states, which is the reason the new med states will be state run dispensaries. The gov will get its cut. Even if we legalize there will be weight/plant limits. The police state will continue til all drugs are legalized no limits. So sad but true. Ballot measures fix the states but no way to fix the fed except majority. Politicians need 75% vote to overturn ballot measures as well, talk about for the people. Some of them are even changing recall election laws. Lots of laws to laws... everybody should start reading....The government is designed to move slow if at all....
Congress is not Progress
I believe the correct % is 75% of states, which is the reason the new med states will be state run dispensaries. The gov will get its cut. Even if we legalize there will be weight/plant limits. The police state will continue til all drugs are legalized no limits. So sad but true. Ballot measures fix the states but no way to fix the fed except majority. Politicians need 75% vote to overturn ballot measures as well, talk about for the people. Some of them are even changing recall election laws. Lots of laws to laws... everybody should start reading....The government is designed to move slow if at all....
i hear ya but strip clubs and casinos are a little different don't you think?
