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What light have you found worked best to root clones???

gmanwho

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As the title says, what type of light worked best for you to root clones. MFG wattage an color an type of bulb? What light have you switched from? Looking to do some updating for a new spot. Gonna be using an ez cloner an another back up tray of rockwool. Curious to see how many use standard coil cfls or 2ft t8's etc. wondering if i should start a poll. b-safe
 

RB26

Vendor
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As the title says, what type of light worked best for you to root clones. MFG wattage an color an type of bulb? What light have you switched from? Looking to do some updating for a new spot. Gonna be using an ez cloner an another back up tray of rockwool. Curious to see how many use standard coil cfls or 2ft t8's etc. wondering if i should start a poll. b-safe

I have used:

- 4' x 8' T5's
- 300W Lumigrow LED
- 500W Hortilux Blue
- 500W Hortilux Super HPS

LED blew it out of the water, seriously. I've cloned in Rapid Rooter trays and the EZ-Clone 96. LED kills the competition either style. Depending on the genetics I've been FULLY rooted (not just a few stray roots poking out) as soon as 5-7 days with LED.
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
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I have so many lights but I don't like the T5's more then the fluorescent lighting at least not for cloning and you can get the light closer with fluorescent lights . Stay frosty Headband 707
 

FlaDankster

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What do you mean exactly by "what light worked the best?"

They're clones........use the cheapest light you can get and use the rest of your money on some thing else.
 

Phaeton

Speed of Dark
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Used most types of lights or cloing but settled on Constant Color CMH from GE.
Retro White and Master Color from Phillips did not work quite as well.
Magnum and HydroGrow LED were also used, again, not the equal of GE Constant Color.

Unrooted clones get 75-100 umol and 150-200 when roots start.
About a meter from the plants with 400 watts with a white enamel reflector is approximate for new clones and 75 cm for newly rooted.

All the lights grew clones, GE just makes them a little greener.
 

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dontstepongrass

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23w daylight spectrum cfl per every tray or 2 of cuts.

used to hang one over my 60 site EZ cloner also.


u want weak light for fast roots bro... i agree with dude above, go cheap and spend ur money elsewhere in your setup


good luck.
 

habeeb

follow your heart
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any light works, if setting up a new space, I would go LED just for the fact it will last near forever for clones. but this is built LED I'm thinking, as I would want white LED for the fact of ease on the eyes..

I think light is not much of a concern as is health of plant / knowledge of cloning


more important question is, WHAT DO YOU WANT.. ask yourself in a quiet place, and I'm sure your shocked that you already know the answer, as if you know the question to ask, you already know the answer..
 

Dirt Life

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1 - 13 Watt CFL in soft white (red) 1' above canopy (covers about 2-3 square feet). Works great. DIY Bubble cloners.

I've tried a 23 Watt CFL in daylight (blue), and I lost clones due to yellowing.

:)
 

gmanwho

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Thanks for the responses ... Phaeton thaat CMH you speak of whats the wattage? Ic-ivo, 300w for a cloning? do you have it setup with a large footprint? What was the price on that light? b-safe
 
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gmanwho

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What do you mean exactly by "what light worked the best?"

They're clones........use the cheapest light you can get and use the rest of your money on some thing else.

I completely disagree with you!!!! There are so many factors involved. over the past yrs i have had always mixxed results. I know healthy moms is the first step, but there are so many that follow. Lighting is just one piece. Some lights yellow, some lights dont promote any growth. I have such inconsistent results that my cloning experience should be taken with a grain of salt. So im looking to hear others
 

RB26

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Thanks for the responses ... Phaeton thaat CMH you speak of whats the wattage? Ic-ivo, 300w for a cloning? do you have it setup with a large footprint? What was the price on that light? b-safe

It was pretty expensive, I don't remember the price exactly but you can check out the Lumigrow website. I didn't buy it for the purpose of cloning, I was just experimenting with it and decided to use it to root / veg and it worked beautifully. Yea, the Lumigrow is right around 300W, I probably kept it about 2' away. When I would use it for clones I would hang it centered right above the machine, not using it for anything else. I've never had a problem using "too much" light for cloning. I've used a 4' 8 Bulb T5 on full blast over just one or two trays of 50 clones time and time again, never saw any negative impacts from that.
 

foomar

Luddite
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Not noticed much difference between assorted cfl,s , indirect sunlight or a distant sodium/halide.

Using good quality daylight spectrum cfl,s for now and they seem to stay green a little longer than with the previous warm/cool white for me.

Root zone temp seems the critical factor and type of light much less important from what I have seen.
 

ydijadoit

Active member
I've used cfls @ 23w 6500K, 2700K, T5HO (8 light 4 footer), indirect HPS (Shaded by a larger plant), and halide, also shaded.
I am far from a clone master, but it seems more important to me, to have a perfectly healthy mother, and squeeky clean cloning gear. I use a homemade bubble cloner, and run a small aquarium heater in it, to keep the temps around 80.
Strangely, I have had a couple batches that really were slow rooting, until I added 2ml per gal of GH Bloom, and moved them to more direct light, where they popped roots faster. (?)
It's all rocket science to me, I just stand next to the guys in the lab coats, and try to look like I know what I am doing :)
Regards
 

FlaDankster

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I completely disagree with you!!!! There are so many factors involved. over the past yrs i have had always mixxed results. I know healthy moms is the first step, but there are so many that follow. Lighting is just one piece. Some lights yellow, some lights dont promote any growth. I have such inconsistent results that my cloning experience should be taken with a grain of salt. So im looking to hear others

Its all good Gman.But i do want to add that i gave my opinion on what the original ? was.


What light works best to <("ROOT")> clones.If we get down to the nitty gritty the real answer to that would be none of them because light isn't needed to <("ROOT")> clones at all,none,nada.Light does not encourage new roots to grow what so ever from a cutting.

Are your issues getting them to root or keeping them happy and healthy "after" they pop roots?If it's after ok lighting can have a roll in that but not before your clones even have any roots at all.

We have already got guys stating certain bulbs/colors have resulted in dead clones for them while another said he uses the same exact thing in his set up with no issues.


Cheap brudda.......as in like t8 shop light....or some cfl's.T5's are the shizznitt.....but i prefer them for <("after")> i have roots and it's time to veg.
 

Dirt Life

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Root zone temp seems the critical factor and type of light much less important from what I have seen.

If it comes to cloning success rate, I agree with foomar. Temperature is more important than light. Too cold, nothing or extremely slow, too warm, rot and slime (at least with my cloning technique). :)

Also, the health of the mommas, as been stated.
 

BigSteve

Active member
I'm not even gonna read this thread, but I'll say that I can get clones in the dark or under light. The light can fuck things up if there is to much. When things root the light will definitely help get them bitches growing though.
 

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