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"the ocean is broken"

Really, really sad stuff..

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1848433/the-ocean-is-broken/
IT was the silence that made this voyage different from all of those before it.

Not the absence of sound, exactly.

The wind still whipped the sails and whistled in the rigging. The waves still sloshed against the fibreglass hull.

And there were plenty of other noises: muffled thuds and bumps and scrapes as the boat knocked against pieces of debris.

What was missing was the cries of the seabirds which, on all previous similar voyages, had surrounded the boat.

The birds were missing because the fish were missing.

Exactly 10 years before, when Newcastle yachtsman Ivan Macfadyen had sailed exactly the same course from Melbourne to Osaka, all he'd had to do to catch a fish from the ocean between Brisbane and Japan was throw out a baited line.

"There was not one of the 28 days on that portion of the trip when we didn't catch a good-sized fish to cook up and eat with some rice," Macfadyen recalled.

But this time, on that whole long leg of sea journey, the total catch was two.

No fish. No birds. Hardly a sign of life at all.

"In years gone by I'd gotten used to all the birds and their noises," he said.

"They'd be following the boat, sometimes resting on the mast before taking off again. You'd see flocks of them wheeling over the surface of the sea in the distance, feeding on pilchards."

But in March and April this year, only silence and desolation surrounded his boat, Funnel Web, as it sped across the surface of a haunted ocean.

North of the equator, up above New Guinea, the ocean-racers saw a big fishing boat working a reef in the distance.

"All day it was there, trawling back and forth. It was a big ship, like a mother-ship," he said.

And all night it worked too, under bright floodlights. And in the morning Macfadyen was awoken by his crewman calling out, urgently, that the ship had launched a speedboat.

"Obviously I was worried. We were unarmed and pirates are a real worry in those waters. I thought, if these guys had weapons then we were in deep trouble."

But they weren't pirates, not in the conventional sense, at least. The speedboat came alongside and the Melanesian men aboard offered gifts of fruit and jars of jam and preserves.

"And they gave us five big sugar-bags full of fish," he said.

"They were good, big fish, of all kinds. Some were fresh, but others had obviously been in the sun for a while.

"We told them there was no way we could possibly use all those fish. There were just two of us, with no real place to store or keep them. They just shrugged and told us to tip them overboard. That's what they would have done with them anyway, they said.

"They told us that his was just a small fraction of one day's by-catch. That they were only interested in tuna and to them, everything else was rubbish. It was all killed, all dumped. They just trawled that reef day and night and stripped it of every living thing."

Macfadyen felt sick to his heart. That was one fishing boat among countless more working unseen beyond the horizon, many of them doing exactly the same thing.

No wonder the sea was dead. No wonder his baited lines caught nothing. There was nothing to catch.

If that sounds depressing, it only got worse.

The next leg of the long voyage was from Osaka to San Francisco and for most of that trip the desolation was tinged with nauseous horror and a degree of fear.

"After we left Japan, it felt as if the ocean itself was dead," Macfadyen said.

"We hardly saw any living things. We saw one whale, sort of rolling helplessly on the surface with what looked like a big tumour on its head. It was pretty sickening.

"I've done a lot of miles on the ocean in my life and I'm used to seeing turtles, dolphins, sharks and big flurries of feeding birds. But this time, for 3000 nautical miles there was nothing alive to be seen."

In place of the missing life was garbage in astounding volumes.

"Part of it was the aftermath of the tsunami that hit Japan a couple of years ago. The wave came in over the land, picked up an unbelievable load of stuff and carried it out to sea. And it's still out there, everywhere you look."

Ivan's brother, Glenn, who boarded at Hawaii for the run into the United States, marvelled at the "thousands on thousands" of yellow plastic buoys. The huge tangles of synthetic rope, fishing lines and nets. Pieces of polystyrene foam by the million. And slicks of oil and petrol, everywhere.

Countless hundreds of wooden power poles are out there, snapped off by the killer wave and still trailing their wires in the middle of the sea.

"In years gone by, when you were becalmed by lack of wind, you'd just start your engine and motor on," Ivan said.

Not this time.

"In a lot of places we couldn't start our motor for fear of entangling the propeller in the mass of pieces of rope and cable. That's an unheard of situation, out in the ocean.

"If we did decide to motor we couldn't do it at night, only in the daytime with a lookout on the bow, watching for rubbish.

"On the bow, in the waters above Hawaii, you could see right down into the depths. I could see that the debris isn't just on the surface, it's all the way down. And it's all sizes, from a soft-drink bottle to pieces the size of a big car or truck.

"We saw a factory chimney sticking out of the water, with some kind of boiler thing still attached below the surface. We saw a big container-type thing, just rolling over and over on the waves.

"We were weaving around these pieces of debris. It was like sailing through a garbage tip.

"Below decks you were constantly hearing things hitting against the hull, and you were constantly afraid of hitting something really big. As it was, the hull was scratched and dented all over the place from bits and pieces we never saw."

Plastic was ubiquitous. Bottles, bags and every kind of throwaway domestic item you can imagine, from broken chairs to dustpans, toys and utensils.

And something else. The boat's vivid yellow paint job, never faded by sun or sea in years gone past, reacted with something in the water off Japan, losing its sheen in a strange and unprecedented way.

BACK in Newcastle, Ivan Macfadyen is still coming to terms with the shock and horror of the voyage.

"The ocean is broken," he said, shaking his head in stunned disbelief.

Recognising the problem is vast, and that no organisations or governments appear to have a particular interest in doing anything about it, Macfadyen is looking for ideas.

He plans to lobby government ministers, hoping they might help.

More immediately, he will approach the organisers of Australia's major ocean races, trying to enlist yachties into an international scheme that uses volunteer yachtsmen to monitor debris and marine life.

Macfadyen signed up to this scheme while he was in the US, responding to an approach by US academics who asked yachties to fill in daily survey forms and collect samples for radiation testing - a significant concern in the wake of the tsunami and consequent nuclear power station failure in Japan.

"I asked them why don't we push for a fleet to go and clean up the mess," he said.

"But they said they'd calculated that the environmental damage from burning the fuel to do that job would be worse than just leaving the debris there."
 

supermanlives

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and when ya do catch em the mercury levels make it unsafe to eat frequently. trout is my standbye fish for safe eatin
 

Stoner4Life

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if it ever gets so bad as to slow the flow of cheap Chinese goods to our shores, we'll clean it up.......
 

HidingInTheHaze

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It's tragic, I feel so bad for future generations that will inherit our garbage dump. Humans are such a self absorbed reckless species.

If the ocean dies, so lies the potential to end all life on Earth. Our governmental leaders just look at it as the ocean is huge what ever garbage, oil or nuclear waste they dump in will just spread out. So ignorant.

Sadly, as they destroy our oceans they are working hard to kill our topsoil too. Things have to change, otherwise there will be nothing left.

Most people are too consumed with the lived of celebrities to care about anything that actually matters.
 

BudToaster

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it will take taxes and regulations to force a change for the better ... yeah, like that's going to happen. it's every man for himself
 
Oceans rise, land is covered.

Oceans recede, land re-appears.

Welcome to Gaia Systems ...reboot has been successful following a critical error!
 

bombadil.360

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the whole "global warming" bullshit got everyone's attention off actual real massive pollution going on.

"hey don't look at all these idiotic industries trashing the earth with poisons to make junk, look at our silly graphs about temperature changes"
 

trichrider

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al gore played a good game...

Al Gore’s Global Warming Desperation

Those who are wondering why Al Gore chose to publicly resurface in a Washington Post interview last Thursday with that paper’s ever-pliable Journolist founder Ezra Klein only need to look in three places.

First, there’s the recently revealed empirical evidence that the “global warming” movement’s claim that climate change is causing increased extreme weather events isn’t true. Second, there’s a new summary of historical research which blows up the movement’s infamous core “hockey stick” chart forecasting unprecedented, accelerating warming. Finally, there’s a new report due to arrive in a month from an increasingly desperate United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

In late September, the IPCC, laughably described by the wire service AFP as “an expert body set up in 1988 to provide neutral advice on global warming and its impacts,” will release its next set of “scientific data” to advocate for a worldwide carbon-tax regime. Gore’s mission is clearly to start greasing the skids for the IPCC’s next round of hysteria.

Gore told WaPo’s Klein that the earth is already suffering the negative consequences of failing to act against “global warming.” He claims that “every extreme weather event now has a component of global warming in it,” and that “the appearance of more extreme and more frequent weather events has had a very profound impact on public opinion in countries throughout the world.”

There’s no doubt that the worldwide press’s emphasis on “extreme weather events” has been greater. Virtually every such occurrence will cause one or more journalists, politicians or both to claim it as definitive or presumptive “proof” of the existence of “global warming” and the urgent need to combat it.

The trouble is, the actual occurrences of “extreme weather events” has not increased.

In mid-July, University of Colorado environmental scientist Roger Pielke testified before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee. What he had to say surely did not please Democrats and socialists on the committee, including California’s Barbara Boxer, Rhode Island’s Sheldon Whitehouse, and Vermont’s Bernie Sanders:


“Hurricanes have not increased in the U.S. in frequency, intensity or normalized damage since at least 1900,” Pielke added. “The same holds for tropical cyclones globally since at least 1970.”

… (He also noted) that U.S. floods have not increased in “frequency or intensity” since 1950 and economic losses from floods have dropped by 75 percent as a percentage of GDP since 1940. Tornado frequency, intensity, and normalized damages have also not increased since 1950, and Pielke even notes that there is some evidence that this has declined.

… droughts have been shorter, less frequent, and have covered a smaller portion of the U.S over the last century. Globally, there has been very little change in the last 60 years, he said.


Based on his bio and credentials, leftists tempted to trash Pielke’s reputation would be well advised to pick a different target.

Now, let’s get to that “hockey stick.”

In an August 14 post at CO2Science.org, the website of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, Craig Idso, the organization’s chairman and past president, posted a lengthy summary of others’ research dating back 15 years relating to what happened during the Medieval Warm Period in the Arctic.

Those who have followed the work of “global warming” advocates disguised as scientists for some time may recall that Penn State’s Michael Mann and his cohort were determined, as seen in the leaked “Climategate” emails, to “get rid of” the Medieval Warm Period, so that their beloved “hockey stick” would remain nearly straight before turning up sharply during the past few decades and into the future.

Idso, who has a Ph.D. in Geography and has authored several peer-reviewed scientific articles on climate-related topics, painstakingly ran down the results of 17 studies attempting to reconstruct surface temperatures in Greenland and other Arctic areas during the past millennium.

Every study he reviewed supports Idso’s conclusion (italics are his):

[T]he Arctic – which climate models suggest should be super-sensitive to greenhouse-gas-induced warming – is still not even as warm as it was several centuries ago during portions of the Medieval Warm Period, when there was much less CO2 and methane in the air than there is today, which facts further suggest that the planet’s more modest current warmth need not be the result of historical increases in these two trace greenhouse gases.

Eight of those studies predate the thousand-year global extension of Mann’s “hockey stick” graph of 2003, meaning that he had to deliberately ignore a huge swath of scientific evidence, which, if honestly considered, would have caused him to throw it into the trash. Instead, he and others associated with the IPCC essentially pretended that no other meaningful contradictory information existed.

In other words, Mann’s “hockey stick” is a bunch of what Colonel Potter of the TV series M*A*S*H used to call “horse hockey.”

It’s hard to see how the IPCC can regain the momentum for taking action against something that clearly isn’t happening. There has been no warming for 15 years, and some evidence of slight cooling since 2002.

I suspect that IPCC and its supporters will have no choice but to resort to leftists’ traditional fallback tactics. That is, they’ll try to act as if damning contradictory information doesn’t exist or is unimportant, and they’ll ramp up their demonization of so-called “deniers.”

That act is wearing very thin. I’d like to believe that it won’t be effective, but that belief depends heavily on continued vigilance on the part of those who insist on following the science where it takes them, instead of making up “science” to fit a statist agenda.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/tom-blu...g-desperation/

"everything is broken...": Bob Dylan
 

Agaricus

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It's probably inevitable that the oceans will become watery deserts. Some countries are trying to regulate their fisheries but business interests inevitably whine about "big government" being alarmist and participating in one conspiracy or another. The small fishermen are justifiably afraid of their traditional livelihood being destroyed. Fisheries are being closed, fish stocks are disappearing, catch limits are in place. There are some success stories where regulatory efforts have brought back fish populations but in some cases it's too late.

Whatever side you're on in the global warming pissing contest, ocean acidification from increased atmospheric CO2 is an observed and acknowledged fact. It's taking quite a toll on fisheries and on ocean flora and fauna. It doesn't take much change in pH to fuck things up.

Considering that every living thing on earth is dependent on the oceans being healthy, we're in deep shit and it's getting deeper.
 
The only hope really is something like a virus that comes out of nowhere & wipes out 99% of the human population in just a few weeks.
 

azez

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the earth has been around a long time
it will find a way to get rid of us like the cancer we are
peace
ez
 

dddaver

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I think I need to get a houseboat so I could live on da Nile. That is apparently THE place to be. Maybe then reading "news", opinions, and supposed facts that aren't really facts wouldn't piss me off so much cause I wouldn't be exposed to any of that bullshit anyway. I mean, a lot of people apparently live on da Nile now. Must be a good place to be.

Rant over. "Have a nice day!" :tiphat:
 

Crusader Rabbit

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... which facts further suggest that the planet’s more modest current warmth need not be the result of historical increases in these two trace greenhouse gases.

So carbon dioxide is a "trace greenhouse gas"? What atmospheric greenhouse gas wouldn't be then? Water vapor?

I'm curious about some of the references. May look some up. But the loaded language, and the fact that the essay starts out with a hit on Al Gore, tells me that my efforts would only support the notion that this is another biased and well financed effort to keep some very big money interests on the gravy train that's ridden this planet into ruin.

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Oh what a crock of shit...

The website is a cornucopia of articles preaching the benefits of rising atmospheric CO2 levels.

We need your financial support! As a 501(c)(3) public charity, the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change accepts corporate, foundation and individual donations to fund its educational activities. All donations are kept confidential. If you have browsed our website or utilized our material in the past year, please consider ma king a financial contribution. We need your help to keep us going.

http://www.co2science.org/
Koch Industries Climate Denial Front Group

Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change
$60,000 received from Koch foundations 2005-2011 [Total Koch foundation grants 1997-2011: $85,000]

The Center is run by Sherwood Idso and his sons Craig and Keith, long-time climate science deniers. The Center runs the climate science denial site CO2science.org

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/ca...ch-industries/center-for-the-study-of-carbon/
The Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change is not so much a "center" as it is a family-run global warming denialism operation. It was founded by Craig Idso, who heads the center and runs it along with his father Sherwood and brother Keith. Their credentials are related to plant science and agriculture. They put out their own "peer-reviewed" journal called CO2 "Science" where they extol the virtues of rising carbon dioxide levels. They received a buttload of money from oil and coal interests back in the '90s and 2000s, naturally.[1][2]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Center_for_the_Study_of_Carbon_Dioxide_and_Global_Change
The Idso clan is the von Trapp family of climate change denial. In 1980, paterfamilias Sherwood Idso, a self-described "bio-climatologist," published a paper in Science concluding that doubling the world's carbon dioxide concentration wouldn't change the planet's temperature all that much. In years that followed, Idso and his colleagues at Arizona State University's Office of Climatology received more than $1 million in research funding from oil, coal, and utility interests. In 1990, he coauthored a paper funded by a coal mining company, titled "Greenhouse Cooling."

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/12/dirty-dozen-climate-change-denial-11-idso-family
I have better things to do with my time. Need to go tend my plants now.
 

dddaver

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The data IS there, 95% of the worlds scientists agree, man IS effecting the climate on this planet.

You don't need to be a scientists to see all the ocean pollution either. Go for a walk on the beach and see all the shit washed up, anywhere, some places look like a fucking dump. Because they ARE.

No big climate change events? That hurricane hitting NYC happens every fucking year too dammit. They need to do something about that.

Denial of this all this hard data is the same as the centuries old thinking the earth is flat and the sun and the planets all revolve around us, despite the evidence.

So I should believe the naysayers despite what all the data says, what all the worlds scientists say, and despite what Nobel laureates and Academy Award winners say, but pay high credence to what somebody writes on a cannabis site. Okay. Whatevs dude.

How 'bout letting the experts and people who are devoted to just that cause deal with it. Or maybe I should just bitch and slow whatever can be done about it down.

I am reminded every day, da Nile ain't just some big river, is it?

Now I hate Gore too and don't believe half of what that asshole says. But I don't hate that jerk for profiting off all this, what else do you expect from a politician? I hate him because that wimp bailed just when the people who voted for him needed him most. The world would be in a very different place if he hadn't wimped out. His excuse of it "being better for the country." was exactly opposite of reality. No Iraq, no 911,...probably plenty of bad shit, just maybe not that shit. Just different. The supreme court took the reins of that election then. BAD. That's why there are 3 SEPERATE branches, and checks and balances, so shit like that won't happen. But it did, and he let it happen...Still, global warming? Polluting the oceans? Those are facts. No matter what parasites like that cluck say.
 

Green lung

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So I should believe the naysayers despite what all the data says, what all the worlds scientists say, and despite what Nobel laureates and Academy Award winners say, but pay high credence too what somebody writes on a cannabis site. Okay. Whatevs dude.

How 'bout letting the experts and people who are devoted to just that cause deal with it. Or maybe I should just bitch and slow whatever can be done about it down.

I am reminded every day, da Nile ain't just some big river, is it?



Dude I don't about you but I get all my scientific knowledge from pot smoking construction workers I meet online.

I mean what do these scientist know anyways.:)






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The data IS there, 95% of the worlds scientists agree, man IS effecting the climate on this planet.

In the highly unlikely scenario of global warming being bogus, only a complete moron would still disagree with the view that our planet is 'in the toilet' & its in there because of 'Human activity', if you then require some kind of unit to measure 'destructive human activity', there is probably none better than 'Carbon use by weight'.

True or untrue, I don't see any downside to promoting the concept of global warming.
 

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