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Vaccinations: Good, Bad or Just Plain Ugly
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It was admitted SV40 contained cancer viruses and nothing ever happened with that, just as nothing will ever happen with vaccines today.
The damage is already done and it can't be reversed (with current technology). Our mutated and damaged DNA will forever be inherited and passed down through our progeny.
Eugenics in real time.
40 Years , never have never will . I Prefer letting my immune system in its evolution fight anything it comes up against . I do understand new evolving disease and viruses tho and needing defenses against them . But anything short of a pandemic I won't be taking anything .
People already willingly consume these chemicals on a daily basis. Alcohol converts into acetone and formaldehyde in the body. There are levels which your body can detoxify. When you have too much you reach toxicity. Most people don't have a good understanding of how the body works.
Being vaccinated is still better than not being vaccinated. Yes the flu virus can and does mutate and the vaccination is based on last year's viruses... Our bodies mutate all the time as well, and you'll have a faster immune response with the antibodies present for the original virus.
I forgot to mention if you have young children at home, you should also get vaccinated.
I think most vaccinations are good, but I dont get a flu shot. I just eat homemade chicken soup in the crock pot or pressure cooker. It is a natural immune system booster. make it with bone in thighs, carrots, and what other veggies you want. cook it till the marrow melts out of the bones and into the soup, and dissolves. about ten hours in a crock pot.
The last time I got a flu shot, I caught the worst case of the flu I ever had two weeks later. It was obviously a different strain of flu than the one I was vaccinated against. So I voted no on the flu vaccine.
I'm not saying vaccinations are bad, but in the case of the flu, it's no guarantee.
Smallpox has pretty much been eliminated due to vaccination. That's not a bad thing. I received the standard round of vaccinations that were required to start school as a kid. They didn't make me retarded or give me Downs syndrome. That shit is caused by genetic predisposition, not vaccinations.
I'm not saying vaccinations are bad, but in the case of the flu, it's no guarantee.
Smallpox has pretty much been eliminated due to vaccination. That's not a bad thing. I received the standard round of vaccinations that were required to start school as a kid. They didn't make me retarded or give me Downs syndrome. That shit is caused by genetic predisposition, not vaccinations.
hey i got hepatitis vaccinations. that shit is priceless.
Nothing beats homemade chicken soup.
I always roast a chicken the day before then cook all the bones, giblets and every vegetable I can get my hands on in a pot for 8-10 hours. At that point it's like eating a multivitamin/multimineral.
My wife swears by it. I make a gallon of broth and she drinks a cup of it everyday, she's pretty much the healthiest person I know, the woman has an immune system of steel.
^its been a proven recipe for hundreds of years.
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they knowingly been doing this with vaccines since they started.. if u look at the studies done by real SCIENTISTS... "Vulnerable people are especially urged to get vaccinated because they can least afford to get the flu." its a business.. OUR HEALTH TURNED INTO A BUSINESS in which they try to make us sick to make more money.. its all the plan to depopulate the world.. its sad.. but that's what the world is coming to.
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They literally heckle you at my local rite aid to get them. No fucking thank you.
I got so sick in the 7th grade when they gave me the first round of mandated shots, luckily I was able to opt out of the rest after that.
I got so sick in the 7th grade when they gave me the first round of mandated shots, luckily I was able to opt out of the rest after that.
Here's one I figured could apply to or pander to either side of the argument (debate) on flu shots.
signs could be photoshopped to promote ANY agenda
signs could be photoshopped to promote ANY agenda
I get my flu shot yearly and felt like I had the flu for a few years. Then I found out, the flu symptoms were part of an undiagnosed disease i had, MS.
I've spent about 40 hours in urgent care and emergency rooms a week ago(with a sick friend)...I don't have the flu, either. So, I guess the flu shot does work! Because everyone else in the waiting room, had the flu. I still don't see the flu as an emergency, unless severely dehydrated or spiking a fever.
This is my year! Going to the cup to celebrate it! Unless, I get the flu.
I do believe in vaccines; I had the shingles vaccine in 2011; when I had the shingles, twice in 2013, it wasn't as bad as others I've seen. The pain was mild in comparison of others.
Maybe the vaccines won't stop one from getting the illness but, it sure makes the symptoms milder, in my case! jpt
I've spent about 40 hours in urgent care and emergency rooms a week ago(with a sick friend)...I don't have the flu, either. So, I guess the flu shot does work! Because everyone else in the waiting room, had the flu. I still don't see the flu as an emergency, unless severely dehydrated or spiking a fever.
This is my year! Going to the cup to celebrate it! Unless, I get the flu.
I do believe in vaccines; I had the shingles vaccine in 2011; when I had the shingles, twice in 2013, it wasn't as bad as others I've seen. The pain was mild in comparison of others.
Maybe the vaccines won't stop one from getting the illness but, it sure makes the symptoms milder, in my case! jpt
Who are you to talk about science?
The debate is not "are they effective."
Ask the right question, and stop cherry-picking your science, and hiding behind "science."
You act like it's "viruses need to be stopped! it's common sense! OMG" when the other side is
"this causes autoimmunity. We haven't mastered the body. The virus is evolving faster. We're screwing with our DNA and causing changes. We're changing our nature. We're poking holes in each other in a public. We're definitely causing autoimmunity. Plus if we're not exposed to viruses, humans will continually weaken or our systems will not pass to our children"
So, now to fight a disease, you want us to become autoimmune, compromise genetic integrity, and you think this is good?
On the CDC website, when they tell you that H1N1 causes autoimmunity, and that the vaccine itself does too.
Now tell me how effective it is in viruses, and how ineffective it is as a genetic stabilizer/immunity stabilizer?
You don't know? Therefore you hadn't studied. How much science? Enough to know when you throw dead viruses at your immune system there is a response of immunity toward that specific body.
Not very hard science. Very logical to say it helps your immune system, when it fact a lot them cause autoimmunity also.
Then tell me the effects it has on virus evolution.
What? Science has proven when you smack dead viruses around, our body becomes more effective against those specific ones?
How scientific. About as scientific as shooting somebody in their head to get rid of their anxiety.
So do you want to defeat viruses at all costs?
(Or do you think because you're alive and feeling fine, that no genetic changes have occurred? Nice science)
Or would you like to reduce the incidence of genetic anomalies, contributing to diluting the power of our DNA, making us autoimmune. Making the viruses evolve. Letting the government tell you the safe aluminum level and finding out vaccines have twice as much. Creating a fake response, and therefore hollowing out your system in ways you do not know.
Seriously, anything can be causing cancer, and the FDA will say "it has not yet been proven that this causes cancer" and now they're telling you these things are safe and effective, because there is a whole industry relying on it, and a whole industry trying to prove that vaccines are safe.
Sure, you defeat the flu for a year. One type.
To the person who says they don't have to worry about getting the flu, because they don't go anywhere.
Well, they don't need to get vaccinated, because they're not going anywhere.
Actually, getting a shot if very worthless. If they really cared, they wouldn't go anywhere. Right? I mean I have to risk my genetic integrity, but they can't just stay home if they care so much?
If they care, introduce me to the real flu. What they're saying is "we care about ourselves and our children, NOT YOU. So you get the shot to protect them."
Anyway, I've been through this debate. If you're old or young - get it. If you have a problem with immunity and it's broken, get a shot. If you know for sure you get sick all the time, and you're around people - get it.
I've seen tons of people who I know got a shot, and them and their son/daughter get sick each year.
The debate is not "are they effective."
Ask the right question, and stop cherry-picking your science, and hiding behind "science."
You act like it's "viruses need to be stopped! it's common sense! OMG" when the other side is
"this causes autoimmunity. We haven't mastered the body. The virus is evolving faster. We're screwing with our DNA and causing changes. We're changing our nature. We're poking holes in each other in a public. We're definitely causing autoimmunity. Plus if we're not exposed to viruses, humans will continually weaken or our systems will not pass to our children"
So, now to fight a disease, you want us to become autoimmune, compromise genetic integrity, and you think this is good?
On the CDC website, when they tell you that H1N1 causes autoimmunity, and that the vaccine itself does too.
Now tell me how effective it is in viruses, and how ineffective it is as a genetic stabilizer/immunity stabilizer?
You don't know? Therefore you hadn't studied. How much science? Enough to know when you throw dead viruses at your immune system there is a response of immunity toward that specific body.
Not very hard science. Very logical to say it helps your immune system, when it fact a lot them cause autoimmunity also.
Then tell me the effects it has on virus evolution.
What? Science has proven when you smack dead viruses around, our body becomes more effective against those specific ones?
How scientific. About as scientific as shooting somebody in their head to get rid of their anxiety.
So do you want to defeat viruses at all costs?
(Or do you think because you're alive and feeling fine, that no genetic changes have occurred? Nice science)
Or would you like to reduce the incidence of genetic anomalies, contributing to diluting the power of our DNA, making us autoimmune. Making the viruses evolve. Letting the government tell you the safe aluminum level and finding out vaccines have twice as much. Creating a fake response, and therefore hollowing out your system in ways you do not know.
Seriously, anything can be causing cancer, and the FDA will say "it has not yet been proven that this causes cancer" and now they're telling you these things are safe and effective, because there is a whole industry relying on it, and a whole industry trying to prove that vaccines are safe.
Sure, you defeat the flu for a year. One type.
To the person who says they don't have to worry about getting the flu, because they don't go anywhere.
Well, they don't need to get vaccinated, because they're not going anywhere.
Actually, getting a shot if very worthless. If they really cared, they wouldn't go anywhere. Right? I mean I have to risk my genetic integrity, but they can't just stay home if they care so much?
If they care, introduce me to the real flu. What they're saying is "we care about ourselves and our children, NOT YOU. So you get the shot to protect them."
Anyway, I've been through this debate. If you're old or young - get it. If you have a problem with immunity and it's broken, get a shot. If you know for sure you get sick all the time, and you're around people - get it.
I've seen tons of people who I know got a shot, and them and their son/daughter get sick each year.
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Healthy people don't need to be getting flu jabs. It is at risk groups, the sickly, the elderly who benefit most from getting flu jabs. Don't get jabbed if you are not a risk group, leave it for someone who needs it.
Last time I got a Flu Shot ....
Last time I got a Flu Shot ....
I got sick as a dog for days.
I haven't gotten a Flu Shot in 4 or more years and I didn't get sick.
This year I got the Flu and was sick as a dog... For days.
I will not get a Flu Shot next year. For me its about the same as the Flu.
Last time I got a Flu Shot ....
I got sick as a dog for days.
I haven't gotten a Flu Shot in 4 or more years and I didn't get sick.
This year I got the Flu and was sick as a dog... For days.
I will not get a Flu Shot next year. For me its about the same as the Flu.
Some individuals have reactions, the same way some react badly to anti biotics or aspirin. The vast majority of people who get a jab, do not have this reaction. Some people choke when they eat something with a trace of nuts, it doesn't make nuts poisonous.
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