Dry Ice or Water?

[Lucky 7]

Sooooo, It appears that Dry Ice Extraction is now the preferred method of home hash making . . . . am I wrong?

After watching youtube vids, it sure looks easier, less messy, and DRYER in the end than ice water extraction. Many Peeps here are still doing the water thing . . . .

Any old hands here that would like to separate myths from reality for me?

It also looks like one might just use ordinary or high quality water & ice bubble bags for the dry ice thing is that right?

THANKS for yr input!!

Lucky & confused

 

[Green Supreme]

Less contaminant with bubble, so better hash. Peace GS

 

[Lucky 7]

Really? my own home grown . . . . not much contaminant there? organic . . .

 

[Green Supreme]

Not that type of contaminant. Dry ice makes the green material very brittle. Moving the brittle material makes more green matter. Some of this green matter will be same size as he pore holes in the screen. Allowing more to fall through. Peace GS

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

Not that type of contaminant. Dry ice makes the green material very brittle. Moving the brittle material makes more green matter. Some of this green matter will be same size as he pore holes in the screen. Allowing more to fall through. Peace GS

not only that but because I use dry ice on a weekly basis, the cooler that I use ends up being very dirty and it all comes from the dry ice.

don't get me wrong though I really want try it BUT with what know for fact and what green supreme saying making absolute sense im kinda iffy about the whole thing as a steady regimen. maybe i'll do it once.

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

GreenSupreme is right, however, the difference is marginal, IMO. The ease of producing dry ice hash more than makes up for the veg contamination. I've switched all of my hash making from bubble bags to dry ice sift, and I haven't looked back since.

 

[Green Supreme]

Settling is a common thing. Peace GS

 

[Avinash.miles]

I'm a big fan of dry ice, it's simple, and the end product is pretty high quality, depending how you make it.
GS is entirely correct about the dry ice pulverizing your plant matter.
BUT
if you really watch what's coming out of the bag, and shake gently... stop shaking as soon as you see the slightest hint of green or even darker colored keif coming thru, collect the goods, and shake again for the "B grade".

also i've been blowing butane thru my dry ice keif, yields way more per can of tane.

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

GS, the neg rep wasn't me.

Anyway, Avinash makes a good point, the longer you shake, the more contamination. I'll add about 2 handfuls of dry ice into a 5 gallon bucket with 2 large handfuls of trim. 70 micron bubble bag over the top, and shake for a minute, separate (high grade for smoke), then shake for another minute or two for a low grade sift (good for cooking).

 

[Avinash.miles]

I'd really like to get some screens for dry sift... more potential there than water or dry ice, imo.

CnaBnkrMn: i use my 90 micron bag, and sounds like i use way more trim and more dry ice in the bag than you are, but for the high high quality i think what describe is better, a smoking and a cooking grade, made in small batches.
like i said, i blow most of mine with tane, the dab fad demands it... I do keep a lil bit from each batch to puff tho.

Anyone tried sealing their dry ice keif and storing (curing) it for long periods (6+ months)? I did once, sealed about half an oz of blue dream dry ice in a food saver bag, stored it in a dark drawer for a long long time. When the time came to cut the bag open, it immediately reeked like... amazing.
I remember reading in some book (I wanna say it was one by Soma) about how hash aged a year was considered higher quality than the freshly made hash from that season.

 

[Treetroit City]

Curious what would happen if a 220 bag was used?

I've gotten lazy with the bubble and only use a 220 and a 73. Whatever is in the 73 is kept and to be honest tests at 40% THC so I'm happy with it. Is it full melt? Of course not but it is good and it is easy!

So dry ice with a 220 should produce roughly the same no?

 

[Green Supreme]

The biggest heads are about 160, so all that is getting in over that is contaminant.

To the person that neg repped, me even the post above mentions settling. Don't go away mad.... lol. Peace GS

 

[Lucky 7]

thanks for all yr input! and the neg rep sure wasn't mine! lol doesn't it say?

well I threw all my trim away, but dammit, I'm swimming in pot, so I need some hash: what I'll be processing are all buds. how does that affect the process? or at all?

and I understand the end product is really different in Dry vs full melt bubble hash. . . not sure which way to go, but the Bubbleator looks easy enough too. I do believe MOLD is more of an issue with me . . . as it might send me over the edge to wake up & find my hash had turned moldy!!

jeez with the dry ice bombs on the news, I suppose they'll make me sign for that soon enough! wtf

 

[Lucky 7]

and while we're talking, any opinions on storing weed in freezers? I've done this for literally years with, to my humble knowledge, little effect . . .

HOWEVER, I read (on the web) one opinion stating freezing blows up full trich heads . . . wtf . . . are we getting a bit obsessive here? I have not noticed any potency issues, but perhaps I'm not as sharp as I thought . . . lol! . . . wouldn't be the first time this year!

freezer seems to be safer than letting it turn to mold (it's pretty humid here)

 

[Don Dump]

yes bubble is "better" I like it for smoking. but it is a huge pain in the ass to make with disappointing returns.

dry ice hash can be very very good. takes 2 mins to make and you get a lot of return. I use a 160u bag. depends on the strain and how much leaf is on it, and how much ice you use and size micron bag etc etc. and it seems some strains turn out pretty green no matter what , but sometimes it turns out amazing.
this is some of the best I ever made. from semi-trimmed, seeded 8 miles high. super tasty


also I prefer dry ice hash for vaporizing because it doesnt melt and gum up the screen, and will knock out of the bowl clean. and it tastes more like the weed than bubble. bubble tastes like bubble

 

[Lucky 7]

but it is a huge pain in the ass to make with disappointing returns.

ah ha! we get to the crux of the matter . . .

and I like your comment on the way it burns in the vape ............ I have to clean it enough already! thanks Don Dump . . .

anyone else got speaks?

 

[Psuper]

I have yet to see dry-ice hash that comes close to the quality or taste of properly made bubble-hash or dry-sieved isolations. I haven't bothered using dry ice myself though.

I think it's awesome that you can easily vaporize dry-ice hash or use it for a BHO run, but I won't smoke the stuff anymore.

 

[Lucky 7]

What are U saying, exactly? what is the pic saying . . . contaminants?

Are these green contaminants actually bad? or is the taste just not there? How do these "contaminants" compare with vaping bud? surely they can't be that bad . . . or AS bad as vaping whole bud, or if they are DO TELL . . .

If I was in the Pacific NW I would be more "snobbish" too . . . if I smoke this shit, will I turn into my Avatar??

 

[DrySiftWizard]

If you want fantastic quality hash w/o the fuss and mess then go to my thread at the top of the sticky board. Case of the Mondays..

Dry ice, lol.

What a waste of time.

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

Try to find the contaminants in the dry-ice hash macro I posted earlier. Still looking?