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Remo's UBC Chemo Kush With Bubblemans Macro lens
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man that is just breathtaking when viewed large
thanks, they really are awesome, stunning
thanks, they really are awesome, stunning
second that, except to say I think they are the best pictures I've ever seen, its like a glimpse of another world
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beakermuppet
^^^ Amazing pics BM.
Doesn't look like the chemo I remember either Bigbag, but looks pretty killer non-the less
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Doesn't look like the chemo I remember either Bigbag, but looks pretty killer non-the less
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Afghankush420
Member
why doesn't remo use hoods on his lights?
Bare bulbs vert has been the standard in high yeild low plant count growing since the days of prohibition here in BC....
Honestly there is no way to invest less money and get better returns, only now with the Gavita DE fixtures and higher plant numbers am I just starting to see a balancing of yeild including the extra time to grow trees in the bare bulb system...
Honestly though from what I've read trash cans would probably limit O2 unless in hydro or high perlite / coco mix... I would go geo pots...
Side note,Bubble man! was nice meeting you and smoking the crazy temple pipe by Stratis and Corey glass at Flav's daughters B day...
Lol
Honestly there is no way to invest less money and get better returns, only now with the Gavita DE fixtures and higher plant numbers am I just starting to see a balancing of yeild including the extra time to grow trees in the bare bulb system...
Honestly though from what I've read trash cans would probably limit O2 unless in hydro or high perlite / coco mix... I would go geo pots...
Side note,Bubble man! was nice meeting you and smoking the crazy temple pipe by Stratis and Corey glass at Flav's daughters B day...
Lol
Tynehead Tom
Well-known member
very nice work, both of you. stuff leans hard to the Kush side, those don't look at all like any UBC Chemo
my guess is that Chemo Kush came out of all the crosses the bikers did with the chemo(kimo) cut when they got it at the turn of the 80's/90's
A few weeks ago I was gifted a nice pack of original UBC Kimo x Purple Afghani. This would be a purple kush variety going around BC lowermainland in the 80's, the first weed I ever grew and learned to cash crop.
this is a cool thread and one I'm gonna come back and compare too as I have Kimo x P.afghani growing in veg right now. Kimo with a K because when mark, UBC graduate, brought those clones from the lab in 89/90 and gave them to the Outlaws(sandy) and HA's (Pete and will) , I was sitting right there on the couch. When Sandy filled out the plant tags, he wrote Kimo. I'm sure many other connections to the UBC lab got clones as well at some point. Sandy/pete/will couldn't have been the only ones. The first batch of clones of those plants went to Vancouver island shortly after with pete.
I found the Kimo to be a bit of a mutant once a clone rooted. Would throw abnormaly large, red veined single leaves with minimal or no serrations. A revegged Kimo was even crazier. Lots of mutant in the original Kimo and lots of red in stems, petioles and leaf veins. Very dark foliage as well and developed colour late in flower to the purple/red/black side. I remember growing the first batch of Kimo x P.afghani and how dark they got in flower.
anyhow, I'm rambling LOL when I have some bud shots in a couple months I'll come back and compare.
cool thread, stunning pics !!
I have studied Chemo since its entry into the BC market (Van and Kelowna) for a long long time, since God was still young. (1986->). The only thing about chemo that was harder to control than stable results was stable crossing or any Kind of viable seeds at all.
Clone only was an understatement for this mouth watering strain. What we see today is the result of Jordan of the islands crossing master Kush successfully, although I question just what traits are even left of the old school genetics. I know the bikers who would have kept the strain well guarded but they too would have had too much trouble crossing this one with
Random strains easily. I did see a few variants of
Chemo but to me they struck me more as phenotypes rather than crosses.
Once the Og strain lost its steam, and of course enforcement made that stinky
Disappear, yet I believe there are still those who guard the original and it just does not make it to general public anymore.
Fast forward to 2016 and now what people refer to as UBC chemo has become a strong healthy kush more than anything else. The original was indeed a mutant, with 3 leaf fans
And as you mentioned curved leaves...
Sadly the flavors that make you want to "live inside the bag" and "I would smoke this for the rest of my life" are not near as pronounced as they once were.
I'm not sure what the later established chemo strains were on the Richter scale but 32% was the result of one sample in Kelowna, with another SFU Hawaiian hybrid strain
Reaching 43 about the same time(1989). Though MR. Renos efforts in this thread are absolutely jaw dropping, I would love to hear more about what your guys' memory can contribute as I continue my research of this particular strain.
Polyploid? Genetically enhanced? Pm me if you can help my efforts.
Tynehead Tom
Well-known member
ahhh this thread.
yes, the kimo/chemo I grew up around was indeed in the hands of bikers.
Outlaw and HA from the surrey/north delta border region. Strawberry hills to be exact.
I can concur on the hard to cross as I remember my mentor making several unsuccessful crosses. The one that did stick was the cross with the Purple Afghani. I don't have a lot of memories of the P afghani as it was cropped early when I was just a garden rat, carrying bails, making supply runs and gettin coffee LOL
The seeds I germed sprouted only one plant, and as luck would have it is a female.
It looks like a sativa to me and it has ridiculous vigor and structure. it's in my outdoor grow thread linked below.
Where it is reminding me of Kimo, and it has been over 2 decades but.... it throws the weird 3 blade leaves with the hook in the tip. Grows a longer center blade, especially on the 3 blade leaves and it it starting to have a rich sweet funk that just causes random memories to pop up. The Kimo is in there but why it looks like a sativa is beyond me.
would love to be blessed with the original again, I would recognize it on sight
yes, the kimo/chemo I grew up around was indeed in the hands of bikers.
Outlaw and HA from the surrey/north delta border region. Strawberry hills to be exact.
I can concur on the hard to cross as I remember my mentor making several unsuccessful crosses. The one that did stick was the cross with the Purple Afghani. I don't have a lot of memories of the P afghani as it was cropped early when I was just a garden rat, carrying bails, making supply runs and gettin coffee LOL
The seeds I germed sprouted only one plant, and as luck would have it is a female.
It looks like a sativa to me and it has ridiculous vigor and structure. it's in my outdoor grow thread linked below.
Where it is reminding me of Kimo, and it has been over 2 decades but.... it throws the weird 3 blade leaves with the hook in the tip. Grows a longer center blade, especially on the 3 blade leaves and it it starting to have a rich sweet funk that just causes random memories to pop up. The Kimo is in there but why it looks like a sativa is beyond me.
would love to be blessed with the original again, I would recognize it on sight
Oh my god Yes! The purple and sometimes red ribbons were eye candy as much as the smell and taste were, err... Candy. I had a brief convo with a few members of the temple of Calxy group as well. They too remember the original cross in their various regions- no doubt an HA exclusive that was well guarded for a long long time.
The trifoliate made its way across the country and back again, with some rumors of augmentation in the USA as well. A Manitoba variant also made its rounds.
Could the fabled chem dog or some of its variants have been from this gene pool? I mean the only reason I would say no is because of how damn hard it was to get her to cross in the first place but from what you say, it Is possible, and Jordan of the islands apparently pulled off what we see today as a kush variant, but I have not found a current chemo that makes you want to live inside the bag like before.
Though I suspect many of these suspected polyploid strains may have been a colchicine experiment that actually worked (to coax double resin production),
Or a rumored survival gene is how one master explained it. It makes sense to me as breeders were really getting good results around the mid 80-mid 90s.
I too had many skunk & exotic hash plant seeds from Kelowna (kootenays, Okanagan and so on). They surly would have been hermaphrodite produced by accident but what came from those seeds...oh my god. What a shame I didn't clone the hell out of them (if they would have even worked). How sad nothing lasts forever!
Thank you brother for your response. For 20-30 years the chemo patch kids still dream of what once was and what breeders may again one day achieve.
I will look at your pics you mentioned. Indeed the three leaf with its curled and various other oddities would have prompted some folks to wonder what went wrong, but upon flower, that all changed.
Perhaps this side topic is not in the best place for this on the forum but I still appreciate the response! This planform won't let me PM yet so guess I need to chat it up whilst smoking Ma black tuna until I'm qualified to make friend here.
Thank you Tom!!
The trifoliate made its way across the country and back again, with some rumors of augmentation in the USA as well. A Manitoba variant also made its rounds.
Could the fabled chem dog or some of its variants have been from this gene pool? I mean the only reason I would say no is because of how damn hard it was to get her to cross in the first place but from what you say, it Is possible, and Jordan of the islands apparently pulled off what we see today as a kush variant, but I have not found a current chemo that makes you want to live inside the bag like before.
Though I suspect many of these suspected polyploid strains may have been a colchicine experiment that actually worked (to coax double resin production),
Or a rumored survival gene is how one master explained it. It makes sense to me as breeders were really getting good results around the mid 80-mid 90s.
I too had many skunk & exotic hash plant seeds from Kelowna (kootenays, Okanagan and so on). They surly would have been hermaphrodite produced by accident but what came from those seeds...oh my god. What a shame I didn't clone the hell out of them (if they would have even worked). How sad nothing lasts forever!
Thank you brother for your response. For 20-30 years the chemo patch kids still dream of what once was and what breeders may again one day achieve.
I will look at your pics you mentioned. Indeed the three leaf with its curled and various other oddities would have prompted some folks to wonder what went wrong, but upon flower, that all changed.
Perhaps this side topic is not in the best place for this on the forum but I still appreciate the response! This planform won't let me PM yet so guess I need to chat it up whilst smoking Ma black tuna until I'm qualified to make friend here.
Thank you Tom!!
On a side note Tom. You say surrey/delta. I know it well. Would you have ever seen a rare Hawaiian/afghan strain around 1989-90 that smelled ultra dank, and made people drop like flies and do the chicken? It was heavy heavy and looked soooo greasy.
When they finally got taken down the potency soared at over 40%. I have never smoked cannabis that good ever again, save maybe a Jamaican that was equally nuts.
Absolutely correct that Surrey was the place we found a lot of kimo, and the SFU Hawaiian polyploid. While many thought it may be laced, it was research weed.
I truly wonder if breeders still hide it for themselves or if Father Time and Mother Nature just played their roles.
Fascinating to get this insight from you!
When they finally got taken down the potency soared at over 40%. I have never smoked cannabis that good ever again, save maybe a Jamaican that was equally nuts.
Absolutely correct that Surrey was the place we found a lot of kimo, and the SFU Hawaiian polyploid. While many thought it may be laced, it was research weed.
I truly wonder if breeders still hide it for themselves or if Father Time and Mother Nature just played their roles.
Fascinating to get this insight from you!
Tynehead Tom
Well-known member
I remember that Hawaiian well man. wow blast from the past. Buds the size of small trout and would literally stick to the palm of your hand , whilst holding the hand palm down hehehe
my Kimo x p afghani is flowering right now, well, 1 huge one (original seed plant) and 6 medium ones LOL
1 of the 6 mediums is the original top of the seed plant. I've used it as the stress tester, messing with it's light and temperature, messing with it's PH and nutes, over watering, underwatering. basically just stressing the shit out of it for the past few months. Trucking right along tho and recovers nicely each time. All of it's stress responses have included the 3 leaf expression but the healthy and unmessed with plants grew out of it in early veg.
anyhow, I'll be doing updates on her in my grow diary
my Kimo x p afghani is flowering right now, well, 1 huge one (original seed plant) and 6 medium ones LOL
1 of the 6 mediums is the original top of the seed plant. I've used it as the stress tester, messing with it's light and temperature, messing with it's PH and nutes, over watering, underwatering. basically just stressing the shit out of it for the past few months. Trucking right along tho and recovers nicely each time. All of it's stress responses have included the 3 leaf expression but the healthy and unmessed with plants grew out of it in early veg.
anyhow, I'll be doing updates on her in my grow diary
Kenny Kirkland
Active member
Great shots man! Macros are increibles!
wicked gh0st
Member
Is that a sealed room ? Looks nice
Green Squall
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