Truckers Ride for the Constitution. hits DC today

[trichrider]

i must apologize to eighthsandaces, for thinking he was a foreigner.
sometimes my emotions interfere with my intellect.

sorry bro.

...this turned out as disappointing as the occupywallstreet.

we're in for the ride of our lives.

 

[gaiusmarius]

i must apologize to eighthsandaces, for thinking he was a foreigner.
sometimes my emotions interfere with my intellect.

sorry bro.

...this turned out as disappointing as the occupywallstreet.

we're in for the ride of our lives.

the idea was good, it just didn't get the publicity it needed. i'm also thinking some unions or big companies told their people not to go or risk getting the boot. thats pure speculation at this point though and just based on the few trucks that arrived. even if only 1% of Americas truckers would have shown up it would have been hundreds of trucks i'm guessing.

anyway next time they should make it a ride anything for the constitution. horses, horse and bugy, bikes, mopeds, lawnmowers tractors, cars, trucks, everything, then you will see a bigger event for sure, lol.

 

[southflorida]

you'd think that it's the same people voting and being voted for, but some how the most powerful ones all seem to have gone to the same schools and universities, they know the same circles of people, many of them are related to each other distantly. specially presidents all seem to be related.

your average Joe is not interested in politics unless he feels things are so fucked that he has to try, but those are the minority. mostly the ones going into politics do so because they are greedy ambitious and power hungry. it's an inherent flaw in the system. power attracts ruthless power hungry types, but it's worse, because power also corrupts, so if you start out power hungry and corrupt you will be a ruthless gangster when you get the power of office.

i agree...but, once again, the main point is that the culture where we all grow up is the same culture producing the people that vote and the people getting voted for.

the cultural beliefs and cultural assumptions (deeply hidden beliefs) are what fundamentally produce the ass-hole politicians and the blind, stupid, and lazy as f*ck voters voting for these f*cks.

these assumptions are something like this:

asshole politician believes >>> I belong to an elite class, I can tell all those low-life-pieces-of-shit what to do, how to do it, and when to do it, and if they don't like it, well that is just too bad.

blind, stupid, and lazy as f*ck voter believes >>> I belong to the middle-class and have to listen to what these elite politicians tell me to do, and if I don't like it, I should just suck-it-up and live with it.

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...."this" is what it's really all about, invented human concepts, which fundamentally, are nothing but stupid-ass beliefs/assumptions that are programmed through our sick society into the minds of the people living in it.

...what is interesting is that both sides are programmed and both sides are suffering from this shit.

it's just that one side has more power and cash, but this does not make the suffering less, but in fact, even more

...and this is why these sick-fucks have been starting wars and all kinds of other BS for a VERY long time.

...and it doesn't seem that it will end very soon.

why? because people BELIEVE and ASSUME that their beliefs and assumptions are TRUE/FACTS.

...and they are NOT...neither facts or the truth

...they are made-up bullshit...nothing more...nothing less

 

[southflorida]

There was a HUGE false flag operation 9/11, which had the wool pulled over the eyes of almost ALL of the MeriKan population AND Mr. Clinton had left the deficit at near ZERO.

It took a few years of Bush's fuck ups to create the financial crises which helped birth the tea party.

Get off the blue / red black / white divide and conquer and realize all politicians have been fucking all MeriKans for more than 100 years.

Aren't you concerned about 17T in national debt? I sure am.

don't worry bro! McDonalds will take care of it.

the next Super-Jumbo-Size-Big-Tasty hamburger with a Extra-Large-Bucket-of-French Fries and Two Gallon size Coke special will be released and the masses will forget all about the debt, and the fact that they're getting it in the poo-poo without any vaseline - on a daily basis.

 

[gaiusmarius]

well like i said there are several parts to all this. 1. they lie to the people about their intentions, they make a bunch of promises and break most of them, keeping just 1 or 2 that they can achieve without losing corporate backing. so the people still have some hope, that maybe this time he will hold the promise that is most important to them. basically they campaign as a normal human being, so people are tricked into voting for them. the other side of it is that what ever party comes into power seems to go through the same transformation that campaigning candidates go through upon entering office. because there is no third option people are doomed to the same bad choices. it's a game they play, who ever is not in office gets to talk about the constitution and not being the worlds police, about not going to war unless it's self defense. then as soon as they win the elections, it's all about yes well...it's complicated....blah blah blah. all the while the media plays along and pretends that there is actually a difference between having the one bunch in power or the other. having parties is one of the dumbest ways to have a democratic republic imaginable. let people stand on their merits or lack of them, not some fucking retarded color scheme. but yeah don't even get me started, lol.

 

[southflorida]

well like i said there are several parts to all this. 1. they lie to the people about their intentions, they make a bunch of promises and break most of them, keeping just 1 or 2 that they can achieve without losing corporate backing. so the people still have some hope, that maybe this time he will hold the promise that is most important to them. basically they campaign as a normal human being, so people are tricked into voting for them. the other side of it is that what ever party comes into power seems to go through the same transformation that campaigning candidates go through upon entering office. because there is no third option people are doomed to the same bad choices. it's a game they play, who ever is not in office gets to talk about the constitution and not being the worlds police, about not going to war unless it's self defense. then as soon as they win the elections, it's all about yes well...it's complicated....blah blah blah. all the while the media plays along and pretends that there is actually a difference between having the one bunch in power or the other. having parties is one of the dumbest ways to have a democratic republic imaginable. let people stand on their merits or lack of them, not some fucking retarded color scheme. but yeah don't even get me started, lol.

yes...this is how it is played out...over...and over...and over

In Russia, there's a saying...hope dies last

I think, in relation to American politics, and the people voting for those two-faced bastards - that is an accurate saying.

I mean, listen to this guy tell cock-sucker McCain on a live TV show that he should be "arrested and tried for treason":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOapBU5eZHA

...shit is really outrageous...for sure!

 

[bombadil.360]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOapBU5eZHA

...shit is really outrageous...for sure!

that dude was nervous as can be, poor guy, could hardly read his little speech

no wonder, if guys like that are the ones who have the balls to tell McCain what they think, but simply lack the presence and ability to deliver, seemed like a fail, McCain was laughing at the guy struggling to read his paper.

imo, if you are gonna do something like that, you better not only have the balls to do it, but be able to deliver professionally in a fluent articulate manner, if you can't, regardless of your good intentions, it is just gonna be embarrassing.

which is related to the point of why regular John Doe doesn't run for present... you need a special type of person to stand up and keep it cool, be precise, articulate, and even charismatic.

those per-conditions are needed to bullshit anyone; imagine if what you're are spitting is the truth accompanied by all those things; you'd win every debate, and stomp any opponent.

question is, why isn't there anyone with said abilities stepping up to the front?

and that is Carlin's point... he doesn't seem to believe there is anyone like that, willing to charm everyone with truth and all it takes to make it.

maybe there are, but they are not interested, they already said: "screw u you all"... ???

 

[resinryder]

I don't care if it's the Tea Party, the Gray Party, or the My Dick Is Bigger Than Yours Party. I'm just glad to see that some faction of some political party has members of it's party seriously concerned about their futures based on how they vote for budget increases. Maybe it's WAY PAST TIME for the government to default on the bullshit it's been pulling and live within it's means like the rest of us eh?

 

[gaiusmarius]

well Obama as a candidate sounded exactly like a regular joe with a deep respect for the constitution and bill of rights, he claimed to know that executive orders were not constitutional, he seemed to agree about not starting wars unless in self defense. he agreed that any torture was anathema to a free society, i could go on and on, just go check out his speeches back at the start of his candidacy. back then he seemed to be a dream come true. but the closer he got to power the more his rhetoric changed, till once in office, he bore no resemblance to the candidate he'd once been, instead continuing the exact same policies as his predecessor and even one upping him when it came to assassination without due process. instead of prosecuting those who ordered torture at the top, he stopped investigations and immunized the highest level offenders from prosecution. again i could go on and on on the things that stayed the same. point being it's impossible to vote for a good guy when they are allowed to play such games with the people with no consequences. maybe politicians should be legally forbidden from lieing to the people in election campaigns, with a 5 year sentence for the first offense and 3 strikes your out, lmao.

 

[supermanlives]

I am gonna say it . us American citizens have turned to pussies and have a government that don't care about the people and surely don't represent the average guy. all the clowns in power are friends from the same clicks.fuck you assholes in power. ya should be all fired for incompetence. everyone should march on the capital and surround em. bastards. the system is so flawed and corrupt I wouldn't know how to fix it.

 

[bombadil.360]

well Obama as a candidate sounded exactly like a regular joe...

Obama is a talented speaker, convincing and articulate. whether used those talents to bullshit you all or not, is another story.

the point is that the regular joe does not have any of those talents.

if the regular joes want to go head to head with people like Obama in an election, they have no chance, not because the regular joe is less intelligent or has no good intentions, but simply because he lacks the talents to make it happen.

can you find regular joes all around that won't shit their pants to go on a political debate on live national television? without making an asshole of themselves, without loosing their temper, constantly speaking solidly, etc...?

I don't.

 

[resinryder]

Regular Joe's can't raise 17.7 million dollar war chest to seek election to a 6 year job as Mitch McConnell's campaign recently announced.
Politics and political office is financially out of reach for common citizens

 

[gaiusmarius]

Obama is a talented speaker, convincing and articulate. whether used those talents to bullshit you all or not, is another story.

the point is that the regular joe does not have any of those talents.

if the regular joes want to go head to head with people like Obama in an election, they have no chance, not because the regular joe is less intelligent or has no good intentions, but simply because he lacks the talents to make it happen.

can you find regular joes all around that won't shit their pants to go on a political debate on live national television? without making an asshole of themselves, without loosing their temper, constantly speaking solidly, etc...?

I don't.

i don't think good leaders are as rare as you seem to think, lots of people have high intelligence and good knowledge of history, lots of people have good acting and debating skills. it's more that the whole game is rigged to make it next to impossible to achieve office if you don't play the game according to their 2 party rules. the media will not cover you, or worse they will lie and cheat to stop you and or ruin your reputation. while supporting the mainstream candidate by ignoring all his faults and spinning what can't be ignored. the deck is stacked against an honest person who really wants to serve the common good. even search engines are manipulated to keep certain things from trending or going viral. it's another problem with all the spying, they can step in and literally change the course of history, by stopping something going viral that might have turned the trend amongst the majority, they have vast power to make it an uneven playing field in order to insure that the status quo is maintained at all costs.

 

[floralheart]

Aren't these types of people listed as terrorists nowadays?

 

[supermanlives]

Regular Joe's can't raise 17.7 million dollar war chest to seek election to a 2 year job as Mitch McConnell's campaign recently announced.
Politics and political office is financially out of reach for common citizens

I agree and thats a def problem

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

IMHO all it would take is the people who are not happy with how the government works to stop bitching at each other and focus on the problems. it seems to me that we have all noticed that we're getting screwed by the same bunch of guys .....right? if we just ignore the minutiae of which turd stinks the most we might actually get somewhere

as hard as i have tried i have not found a politician that i would trust to do anything but bullshit us a little more, SCOTUS is in the pockets of the big boys just like the politicians and i truly believe that anyone who would want to be president has to be fucking retarded or power hungry.

but i believe we could change that if we could make them actually believe that we remember what the U in USA stands for!

yeah it's is going to be a bumpy miserable ride and the problems are not gonna get solved overnight but it would be almost impossible to fuck things up worse

we should just start a simple list of new rules that make sense ...... AND SHOW NO FAVORITISM toward anyone or any party

here is a start

#1 get the lobbyists the fuck out of government! now!

#2 no more electric voting machines ...... and i want a copy of my ballot!

#3 no special treatment for the body politic in general ........ you break the law you get treated like anybody on the street would. that would include DUI,fraud, and domestic violence.

#4 you get caught using your political position to help a friend while fucking the people you get banished. i.e. lose your citizenship and fucking deported ........... you think Snowden had a problem finding a place to go watch what happens when one of our "leaders" start looking for asylum.

demanding some politicians head on a platter makes it easy for them to laugh at all of us. force them to play by the same rules we all have to play by and it is going to be really hard for them to spin it or get any sympathy from the people they all supposedly represent.

and #5 ...... a corporation is not a person! ............ we have to get the money out of politics


do any of those rules sound bias to anyone? or that they would be bad ideas?

 

[trichrider]

http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_n...a-de-americanized-world?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1

China state media blasts US shutdown, calls for a ‘de-Americanized’ world

“As U.S. politicians of both political parties are still shuffling back and forth between the White House and the Capitol Hill without striking a viable deal to bring normality to the body politic they brag about, it is perhaps a good time for the befuddled world to start considering building a de-Americanized world,” according to a stinging op-ed article by state news agency, Xinhua.

looks like our cavalry is coming..lol

i would add: congress shall pass no law that does not apply to them

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

#5 needs to be a constitutional amendment ...

A corporation is not a person.

Jefferson Was Right
By: Dr. Michael P. Byron - 05/24/03

Most Americans don’t know it but Thomas Jefferson, along with James Madison worked assiduously to have an 11th Amendment included into our nation’s original Bill of Rights. This proposed Amendment would have prohibited “monopolies in commerce.” The amendment would have made it illegal for corporations to own other corporations, or to give money to politicians, or to otherwise try to influence elections. Corporations would be chartered by the states for the primary purpose of “serving the public good.” Corporations would possess the legal status not of natural persons but rather of “artificial persons.” This means that they would have only those legal attributes which the state saw fit to grant to them. They would NOT; and indeed could NOT possess the same bundle of rights which actual flesh and blood persons enjoy. Under this proposed amendment neither the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution, nor any provision of that document would protect the artificial entities known of as corporations.

Jefferson and Madison were so insistent upon this amendment because the American Revolution was in substantial degree a revolt against the domination of colonial economic and political life by the greatest multinational corporation of its age: the British East India Company. After all who do you think owned the tea which Sam Adams and friends dumped overboard in Boston Harbor? Who was responsible for the taxes on commodities and restrictions on trade by the American colonists? It was the British East India Company, of course. In the end the amendment was not adopted because a majority in the first Congress believed that already existing state laws governing corporations were adequate for constraining corporate power. Jefferson worried about the growing influence of corporate power until his dying day in 1826. Even the more conservative founder John Adams came to harbor deep misgivings about unchecked corporate power.

A few years after Jefferson’s unsuccessful attempt to incorporate this amendment into the Bill of Rights, the fourth Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court, John Marshall, unilaterally asserted the Court’s right to judicial review in the seminal case of Marbury v. Madison in 1803. In practice this meant that the Supreme Court would have sole and unchecked power to determine what the Constitution meant. Jefferson was aghast. His fear lay in the knowledge that an unelected branch of government, one which is not subject to the will of the citizens, and is effectively immune from check by the two elected branches of government (Only one Supreme Court Justice has ever been impeached—none have ever been convicted and removed) was now solely responsible for determining the meaning of the Constitution. The meaning of the Constitution, and hence the very nature of our political system, was now in the hands of an un-elected and effectively uncontrollable body. “The Constitution has become a thing of wax to be molded as the Court sees fit” Jefferson lamented. ...

http://soundingcircle.com/newslog2.php/__show_article/_a000195-000205.htm


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[imnotcrazy]

IMHO all it would take is the people who are not happy with how the government works to stop bitching at each other and focus on the problems. it seems to me that we have all noticed that we're getting screwed by the same bunch of guys .....right? if we just ignore the minutiae of which turd stinks the most we might actually get somewhere

as hard as i have tried i have not found a politician that i would trust to do anything but bullshit us a little more, SCOTUS is in the pockets of the big boys just like the politicians and i truly believe that anyone who would want to be president has to be fucking retarded or power hungry.

but i believe we could change that if we could make them actually believe that we remember what the U in USA stands for!

yeah it's is going to be a bumpy miserable ride and the problems are not gonna get solved overnight but it would be almost impossible to fuck things up worse

we should just start a simple list of new rules that make sense ...... AND SHOW NO FAVORITISM toward anyone or any party

here is a start

#1 get the lobbyists the fuck out of government! now!

#2 no more electric voting machines ...... and i want a copy of my ballot!

#3 no special treatment for the body politic in general ........ you break the law you get treated like anybody on the street would. that would include DUI,fraud, and domestic violence.

#4 you get caught using your political position to help a friend while fucking the people you get banished. i.e. lose your citizenship and fucking deported ........... you think Snowden had a problem finding a place to go watch what happens when one of our "leaders" start looking for asylum.

demanding some politicians head on a platter makes it easy for them to laugh at all of us. force them to play by the same rules we all have to play by and it is going to be really hard for them to spin it or get any sympathy from the people they all supposedly represent.

and #5 ...... a corporation is not a person! ............ we have to get the money out of politics


do any of those rules sound bias to anyone? or that they would be bad ideas?

Forgot to add:

#6: Get rid of government pensions and make them pay into a 401K from their overinflated salaries... Like the rest of us have to from our shit salaries. When their futures are directly tied to economic performance of the country like ours are they will fix the economic issues in this country before they pander to others.

#7: Get rid of the healthcare system they have and make them have EXACTLY the same as we have... I guarantee that the healthcare/insurance issues in this country become a top priority overnight. And I don't mean via the Affordable Healthcare Act, which IMO is just a way for corporate America to eventually get rid of company sponsored health insurance eventually

#8: Force politicians to wear NASCAR-esque Suits with all their corporate sponsors/puppeteers emblazoned all over them for the common man who doesn't do their research to be able to identify whose pocket they are in

 

[supermanlives]

I volunteer . send cash and I will run. my platform is I cant possibly screw things up any worse then the clowns already running things. whats the worst I fuck up the economy , go broke and make the government close. lol I am quite intelligent even tho my sentances run on an my punctuation blows but I get my point across.i would have no problems with a debate. things are actually quite simple its the politicians that fuck it up