mr. durden
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I think what I'm looking for is what terpenes boil off at what temps. Not necessarily in a vac chamber
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Terpenation at Terpene Station
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I think what I'm looking for is what terpenes boil off at what temps. Not necessarily in a vac chamber
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mr. durden
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If you would have clicked the link you would have found this,
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/cannabinoid-info/
If that data has been updated, I'd appreciate an FYI, TIA!
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/cannabinoid-info/
If that data has been updated, I'd appreciate an FYI, TIA!
I'm not sure either if it needs the liner or not, its supposed to be rated for 3000 psi, yet it bothers me that I can see sunlight through the walls of the tube. I don't know anything about these hoses though so it probably means nothing.
Also when I was looking inside for a liner I noticed what looks like rust spots which I didn't expect on a SS hose that is supposed to be new.
Maybe you're just seeing reflections off the corrugations, here's the link GW gave a few pages back for SS hose, http://www.flexicraft.com/Industrial_Hose/SB1
it's "convoluted stainless steel hose with a single stainless steel braid," see the picture, just as described at Wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_hose#The_corrugated_hose
RegisPhilburn1
Member
try pulling a vacuum with it. I highly doubt they just sent you a hose with out lining. Ive been using my flexicraft hoses for months with no problems.
Good idea, will check on that!
On a random note, has anyone ever tried lining the inside of the collection chamber with a ptfe bag? I was looking for a cylindrical PTFE bag today (similar to these beaker liners,: http://www.fluorolab.com/teflonbeakerliners.aspx) but the only thing I can find that might work for the collection chamber is the pail liners offered by the same company. the 6" spool is about .73 gal so maybe a 1 gal pail liner would work. Would be pretty sweet to never have to clean the insides again huh?!?
Hash Man
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let me know if u can make the pail liners stick somehow. otherwise the vacuum sucks the liner up into the top of the neck of the collection pot. Also it is shaped like a potato chip bag, not a bucket... They also are very easy to damage; there is no way to seal it in without damaging it as far as i could tell.
mr. durden
Member
I want to say GW might have tried this or mentioned it being more trouble than it is worth, which makes sense. working with stainless is much easier than plastic :/
http://instagram.com/p/e-vTxiPoYW/
Hey Durden, how much is your friend selling the Terp copies for?
Have you ever had your shatter tested for residual Butane? If so can you post some test results.
How does high heat artificially boost your yeilds with Paraffin wax? ....My understanding is that the plant waxes are extracted along with the medicine, and it remains there until is is removed via winterization...
Hey Durden, how much is your friend selling the Terp copies for?
Have you ever had your shatter tested for residual Butane? If so can you post some test results.
How does high heat artificially boost your yeilds with Paraffin wax? ....My understanding is that the plant waxes are extracted along with the medicine, and it remains there until is is removed via winterization...
It's $1,800...Here's the whole sales pitch (sorry it wouldn't copy/paste)
http://instagram.com/p/e-uzNVGuzr/
http://instagram.com/p/e_CueomuxE/
http://instagram.com/p/e-vMTGGu0P/
"Tyler Durden *****we are selling closed loop systems based on the IIIa. For inquiries, please contact us at: redbeardextracts@gmail.com "
http://instagram.com/theotherguy916
"Darren,"
http://instagram.com/redbeard710
mr. durden
Member
I haven't, but my partner has in the past. we purge quite a bit, so i'm not worried. 16 of the 30 entrants in the secret cup failed the residual test
high heat pulls more waxes whereas a dry ice extraction and freezing your tubes with dry ice helps reduce the amount of wax you pull or it'll stick to the bottom of your collection vessel. dry ice extraction results in a purity somewhere between using heat and winterizing. if you were winterizing our stuff, you'd get much less waxes versus high heat. how does this not make sense to you?
mr. durden
Member
Hey Skyhighler, I'm pretty sure you can't sell things on the forums unless you advertise with icmag, so as much as i appreciate the traffic, you should delete the post.
I personally feel the IIIa is a very versatile design and since i started building them for friends and what not, i figured i'd sell some to whomever was interested. I'm cheaper than Specialized, offer more for the money, and usually in stock. Hell, my first unit was bought through Specialized. the problem is that they have taken on too much and not been very responsive. I understand why, but when you are in the business of selling something, ultimately I don't want to hear why you haven't gotten around to shipping something because of all the other stuff you've taken on.
I personally feel the IIIa is a very versatile design and since i started building them for friends and what not, i figured i'd sell some to whomever was interested. I'm cheaper than Specialized, offer more for the money, and usually in stock. Hell, my first unit was bought through Specialized. the problem is that they have taken on too much and not been very responsive. I understand why, but when you are in the business of selling something, ultimately I don't want to hear why you haven't gotten around to shipping something because of all the other stuff you've taken on.
mr. durden
Member
high life... have you winterized before? just wasn't sure if you were familiar with the process. we basically purge our oil till it is done then dissolve it in a particular ratio of oil to everclear. then we freeze it for a couple days.
the waxes and what not clump together in the freezing process which allows you to then filter them out resulting in a winterized oil.
when you keep your material in the tube frozen with dry ice along with your butane, you accomplish something along those lines but not quite as efficient.
i think GW could probably explain better why heat extracts more waxes than i.
here in cali, there is less demand for winterized. if you are really looking to be healthy, you should only smoke winterized, but most of us are recreational anyway and like the smells, taste, etc.
I couldn't find your Instagram stuff previously, and GW said he was having trouble also, so all I did was post what's going on for us geezers. I didn't post it to increase or decrease your business. Purely for context.
mr. durden
Member
oh gotchya... i just wasn't sure what is allowed but i figure if the mods have an issue, they will handle it appropriately.
i just don't like posting on here, never have. of course you'll always get idiots who say back it up with pics. either you have an idea about what you are talking about, or you don't. plus, in cali we can be prosecuted just like meth labs.
the GW thing was in regards to some "alleged" instagram comparison of the bhogart, tami, and the IIIa. in reality it was just some guy who got kicked down a system to say it was the best but didn't have any desire to explain why. paid shill basically. from the emails i've gotten, sounds like there are a lot of dissatisfied bhogart people.
i'm not saying my way is the best, just the best for what we do. and we don't always run dry ice. it just depends on the starting material.
plus, we tend to try out other peoples methods of finishing to see if there is any truth to it. most of the time, no.
there aren't any great mysteries to be shown with bho extraction. the rules of thumb tend to stand the test of time.
RegisPhilburn1
Member
So your selling MKIII's Durden? Did you ask GW if you could profit off of his design?
GW "licensed manufacture and distribution to Specialized Formulations"(SPR website)
Pretty shady imo to steal somebodies design and then undercut them on price. If you dont get an MKIII through Specialized then you ought to build it yourself.
GW "licensed manufacture and distribution to Specialized Formulations"(SPR website)
Pretty shady imo to steal somebodies design and then undercut them on price. If you dont get an MKIII through Specialized then you ought to build it yourself.
I am familiar with winterizing
I misunderstood what you said, I thought you were soley speaking of the purge, not the extraction.
I have seen shatter come from a high heat purge and wax from a lower heat purge and the opposite.
I postulate alot of shatter still has residual butane in it. Im not suprised that over half of the entrants at the secret cup failed because no one is getting residual butane tests. Many testing facilities are offering it.....I think that everyone should look into getting their meds tested for residual butane, that is ultimately the truth of the "purge" right?
I misunderstood what you said, I thought you were soley speaking of the purge, not the extraction.
I have seen shatter come from a high heat purge and wax from a lower heat purge and the opposite.
I postulate alot of shatter still has residual butane in it. Im not suprised that over half of the entrants at the secret cup failed because no one is getting residual butane tests. Many testing facilities are offering it.....I think that everyone should look into getting their meds tested for residual butane, that is ultimately the truth of the "purge" right?
mr. durden
Member
it's an open design, which is how he intended it to be. i've heard GW talk about others who charged WAY more and he didn't seem bothered by it. there is enough market for everyone, and at the worst, it'll force Carla to be more efficient or pick what she wants to be involved with. personally, i think she has taken on too much. and the pricing was independent of what she charged. I just learned it after i had set my pricing. honestly, knowing her costs, i was shocked she charged so much.
so i've done nothing shady Regis. i'm small time and intend to stay that way. my main business is making oil and always will be.
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