Unclefishstick's Guide to Home Bicycle Repair

[unclefishstick]

gets my vote for weird fucker of the yearz lol
Unc it almost sounds sick but I think of you every morning on my way to work. lol I always see this hot chick hallin ass down th road on her bike. Not sure if shes late for work or what But I've also seen her in the evening across town rain or shine.

its the only way to ride! pedal hard,go fast....there were some hotties at the mountain bike race,and a lot of soccer/mountain bike milfs...

and thats not a hot chick on a bike then,shes a cyclist....theres a difference...

 

[silver hawaiian]

i wll go with a local company that has been around for a long time and has a good rep,and there wont be anything n that room aside from woodshop stuff,whats there to even wonder about in my case,they wont ever have to come into the house,separate building in my case...
pappy mostly all a contractor cares about is can you pay,you're talking about a 15 minute job in your case...tell them its for an insane home theater set up or something,they really dont care...

That's part of the trick to grow continuously, successfully - gotta have a "guy" for whatever. ..And not just the yellow pages - a discreet, like-minded, like-closed-mouthed guy, like us..

Pappy, you got any family members who can help out? I hit the in-law lotto when I married, and got me a construction/plumbing/sparky.

 

[pappy masonjar]

Mornin Everyone!

Unfortunately family isnt an option in my case. I did have a good friend, that Ive known since i was 5 yrs old, who is an electrican. But we had a falling out a few years ago. He did some realy really slimey shit to me. And im actually glad that happened. Because had it not, I prolly would be calling on him for this job. And I no doubt, would have regreted it.

Maybe if unc thinks itll only take 15 minutes or so anyways. Maybe i can figure it out myself.
Then again, i dont wanna burn my house down.

Im still thinkin I should be able to get away with just running an extension cord, from the basement to the room.

What about those ones labeled "open", How do i go about using those? Because if I just run the extension cord from an outlet in my basement like I was planning. When my girl does the laundry, itll probably blow the breaker I would think. Right?
So ideally i want to use one of the open ones. But unfortunately, im clueless.

EDIT- Scratch that, the washer and dryer are on a different breaker than the rest of the basement.


I know this handyman I used in the past. He seems like a good guy. If you guys think this will be too hard for me to do, considering my lack of any electrical knowledge, ill prolly use him.

 

[unclefishstick]

whatever you decide,stop plugging ballast into extension cords,that will burn your house down quicker than anything...

 

[pappy masonjar]

Wow, see, this is really important stuff.

So even if I use those. 10 or 12 gauge expensive extension cords, its a fire hazard?

Well in that case i prolly need to find a professional.

Even if i went with the 30 amp controller, I would still need to use extension cords. Cause my dryer is in the basement, and my grow room is onthe 2nd floor.

But if the extension cords dont get hot, why is it a fire hazard?


Its to bad that we all dont live in the same town, like unc said b4. Id be hiring G and Dans immedietly. And, theyd prolly take payment in the form of good bud.

 

[unclefishstick]

looking at the weather and i think i can say summer is over now...another couple of days in the 80's this weekend and then nothing but daytime highs in the 70's for the rest of the 10 day forecast...

makes me itchy to pop some seeds but i wanna go camping so just the strawberry diesel and mental floss for now,maybe in a month i can pop some purple frostbite and some cindy99 f3's...

need to decide if i am going to set up a tent for a quick run before i have the electrician in....probably not since i will need to drywall and there just wouldnt be a good way to keep the dust out...

 

[dansbuds]

Pappy , find someone to put a 20 amp outlet off the side of that panel & plug your new cord into that . i can almost bet theres nothing in the basement except a washer outlet that will suite your needs . & you can't plug into the washer outlet unless your NOT using it .



morning guys

well .... i know what i'm doing this morning !!!



I heard bog seeds are hearty ..... but holy shit !!! thats 3 days sense i put them in the paper towels

 

[unclefishstick]

Wow, see, this is really important stuff.

So even if I use those. 10 or 12 gauge expensive extension cords, its a fire hazard?

Well in that case i prolly need to find a professional.

Even if i went with the 30 amp controller, I would still need to use extension cords. Cause my dryer is in the basement, and my grow room is onthe 2nd floor.

But if the extension cords dont get hot, why is it a fire hazard?

well,thats got a mildly complicated answer that has to do with how ballast work...
ballast are devices that take the power from your wall outlets and step it up high enough to make the gases and other elements react to make light inside the bulb.to do this they use a capacitor which is sort of like a battery except that it can only discharge its load of current all at once in a single burst.the charge/discharge cycle happens in millisecond timeframes so the grow lights are actually strobe lights,just with a period to rapid to be detected by the human eye...

....so,when a ballast initially fires up a bulb there is a momentary power surge while the ballast is getting the bulb up to operating temperature,when you have the ballast plugged into the wall outlet the household system sort of absorbs the surge and you have the protection of the breakers to keep it from over drawing the system...what happens when you use an extension cord is that on occasion that initial power surge will find a weakness in the wiring or some gap or fault in the plug that creates resistance in the line,and that momentary kink in the line so to speak can cause the current to arc past the fault and sometimes that will create enough of an overload to spark and boom,theres your fire...i have seen timers flash welded to extension cords on this forum before....its a very common way for winter fires to start,people string space heaters onto extension cords and it get cold and they overload the circuits and another tragic trailer fire occurs....

 

[dansbuds]

Unc ... I love that your that safety minded ! i know your house will never burn down if your that safety minded . But .... the things I've done with a GOOD extension cord would send you into a Panic !!

Hell i've tapped off the main transformer pad for a house to get drills & shit going to wire a new house . no circuit protection at all
so if pappy gets a Good 12 guage cord (yes its expensive ) & gets an outlet put in the panel ..... better yet if he can get that outlet put in the room he should be good as long as he keeps an eye on it . yes there is a safety hazard doing it .... but i've seen & done much worse !!!

pappy its up to you ..... Unc is completely right !!!! but it can be done & be safe too .

Pappy .... you have 2 spaces in that panel for extra power . which means you have 2 circuits available . Have someone run a 12/3 up to the room & put a quad outlet in the wall . 1 duplex rec for each circuit . you'll have 4 plugs on 2 circuits to use .... much safer bet that cords running around the house .

the box on the floor in the pic is what i'm talking about . it has 2 circuits 1 for each recepticle .

 

[pappy masonjar]

EDIT- DAN ANSWERED MY QUESTION WILL I WAS TYPING IT

Pappy , find someone to put a 20 amp outlet off the side of that panel & plug your new cord into that . i can almost bet theres nothing in the basement except a washer outlet that will suite your needs . & you can't plug into the washer outlet unless your NOT using it .



morning guys

well .... i know what i'm doing this morning !!!

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I heard bog seeds are hearty ..... but holy shit !!! thats 3 days sense i put them in the paper towels

wow, those are long tap roots for 3 days. All this seed cracking is making me wanna pop some more. As soon as i finalize the electrical logistics, im gonna pop a few more beans. I have everything else figure out besides the electric.

So dan, if I get someone to attach a 20 amp, I would still have to use extension cords, right? And apparently that can be a fite risk. And i cant take that risk. And now im scared my current set up is even unsafe. Everything is coming from an e tension cord on both breakers im using now. And even if I dont add the 600. I still need to run an extension cord from my bathroom, to my new room.

what if I use the 12 gaugers? wouldnt that be safe? I guess I shouldnt be suprised. All the really good help ive been getting.




Wow, i already cant vote on any more threads today.

 

[LokiLoki]

Shit dan.. 3 days and all those roots.. must be some kinda record

 

[dansbuds]

So dan, if I get someone to attach a 20 amp, I would still have to use extension cords, right? And apparently that can be a fite risk. And i cant take that risk. And now im scared my current set up is even unsafe. Everything is coming from an e tension cord on both breakers im using now. And even if I dont add the 600. I still need to run an extension cord from my bathroom, to my new room.

what if I use the 12 gaugers? wouldnt that be safe? I guess I shouldnt be suprised. All the really good help ive been getting.

Read my second post if ya haven't yet
yes the cords will be OK , but not perfect . if you can get the quad outlets ran to your room ... you'd be better off in the long run .then you won't need the cord from the bathroom . everything would be in the grow room . 3 circuits ... 1 exsisting & 2 added with the installation of the quad plugs .

 

[thewhitelotus]

interested to see how those BOG seeds turn out...hoping to run some of those genetics myself! Been eager to anyways!

 

[bugman52]

Well im really glad i have you guys to help me figure this out. Id be lost other wise. Thats actually why i never upgraded before. Im too incompetent. And to all the usually bike enthusiasts, im sorry for all the thread hijacking. Bare with me, the room planning is almost done.

So if i cant run another 600. I guess i can still do my new plan. Itll just be a 1000 and 400 in bloom. And 330 of cfl in veg. (instead of 1000 and 600 in bloom, and 400 in veg.) I know it can handle that at least. Im running that now.

And yea dan, all digital ballast.

here it is. I couldnt get a pic of it all at once.

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its weird, it doesnt have my downstairs bathroom listed.


And thats stupid that all 3 bedrooms are on one. Isn't it??

that's a small box but I see 2 empty slots?

whatever you decide,stop plugging ballast into extension cords,that will burn your house down quicker than anything...

unc right use GOOD ext cords

Pappy , find someone to put a 20 amp outlet off the side of that panel & plug your new cord into that . i can almost bet theres nothing in the basement except a washer outlet that will suite your needs . & you can't plug into the washer outlet unless your NOT using it .



morning guys

well .... i know what i'm doing this morning !!!

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I heard bog seeds are hearty ..... but holy shit !!! thats 3 days sense i put them in the paper towels

I grew bog life saver & bog bubble a few years ago real healthy seeds indeed. my life saver herm on me, just a few flowers on the bottom in week 5 or 6 no biggie. buds were a little small but teeth numbing.

 

[dansbuds]

The BOG's are his first medley mix of 20 seeds ... Blue moon rocks , life saver & sour strawberry kush . all 20 had tails

got 19 outa 32 on the S1's with tails

all in coco now . the BOG's are in cups & the S1's are in a 72 cell flat .

 

[unclefishstick]

the BOGS are supposed to be really great people too,always nice when you can support people with ethical business practices...

 

[pappy masonjar]

I didnt know there was more than one Bushy Older.

The PowerPack 600 came today. That was fast. They must have overnighted it. If anybody was wondering what it looks like

Pappy , find someone to put a 20 amp outlet off the side of that panel & plug your new cord into that . i can almost bet theres nothing in the basement except a washer outlet that will suite your needs . & you can't plug into the washer outlet unless your NOT using it .

I guess I'm lucky dan. I have this in the basement, and its only about 10 feet from where I think i would run it up to the attic. Then Id drop it into the grow room.



Heres where some stuff goes upstairs. You cant tell in the pic, but theres some cables and wires going up there too.




My first choice is gonna be to try and either find an electrician to install a 20 amp circuit box in the grow room, using those 2 open slots. Hell, i think there's 3 open slots, i might as well use them all. Or if it sounds uncomplicated enough, I might try to do that myself. If I cant find a good choice for an electrician that is. And then if I cant do either of those 2 things, Im pretty sure I would be alright using a GOOd extension cord, plugged into that basement outlet, and up to the grow room.

And I took a look at my washer/dryer outlet. It looks like just a regular outlet to me. But whatda I know. Not that it matters. Im not planning on using it in any scenario, anyways.

 

[silver hawaiian]

I really really really really hope that any plan involving extension cords (even "good" ones) is nothing "long-term," or even light years near it...

 

[pappy masonjar]

Well if I did it that way, it would be permenant. I have been using a regular orange extension cord running from my bathroom, into the attic, dropped into my grow room for 3 years straight without problems. Maybe ive been lucky. But the cord never gets hot or even really warm. And if I do go that route again, id be using the best kind of extension cords available. Theyre pretty expensive, so i wouldnt buy one just as a temporary fix.

But im heavily leaning towards finding an electrician.

Dan or anyone - does anybody have a ball park estimate of what it would cost to get what dan was talking about done? Under a $1000?

 

[dansbuds]

I really really really really hope that any plan involving extension cords (even "good" ones) is nothing "long-term," or even light years near it...

Nope i got him away from the cord idea .... i will be helping him through PM to get 2 circuits ran upstairs to run his equipment . no need tying up the thread .