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When does the same strain become a new strain?

Green Elk

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If I take 10 Regular Landrace Thai seeds and I grow all of them and select a male and a female from the lot and I use the male to pollenate the female and get seed do I change the strain? When I grow the new seed in a completely different set of environmental conditions than the original Landrace plants were grown and I select what grows best then I think I change everything. It will be a plant that has been selected to grow best under my conditions. And when I continue this selection process and produce another generation it changes again and so on until it becomes stable under those conditions. It may still be Thai genetics and 100% Sativa but it wont be the same as the Landrace grown in Thailand.

If a seed company goes to Thailand and brings that seed to a completely new environment and goes through a selection process that is suited to where that seed company is, does the seed change? If the seed is grown somewhere other than the original environment, is it still a Landrace seed?
 

Green Elk

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In other words,

Are seed companies producing seed in environments other than where the seed is naturally grown and still selling it as a Landrace seed?
 

Green Elk

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And what about the opposing view from a hybrid stand point? When you create a hybrid and you grow it under a set of environmental conditions and produce seed and continue the selection process within the inbred line and it becomes stable, is it still a hybrid?

Consider DJ Short's Blueberry strain. It's has been grown in the Willamette Valley of Oregon for decades. It's grows indoors and outdoors here like wildfire. Do you find open acreage of plants growing wild? Not legally anyway but I believe it could if allowed. Could this be considered a Landrace strain?
 

HidingInTheHaze

Active member
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In other words,

Are seed companies producing seed in environments other than where the seed is naturally grown and still selling it as a Landrace seed?


Yes, I can say most of the landrace type strains you see commercially available were collected in their country of origin but have been worked and stabilized in Spain.

The GN Collection has offered a few landraces over the years and they are pure, unadulterated from their country of origin, they are as raw as it gets.
 

WelderDan

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Environment effects plants. Local climate and soil conditions are hard to replicate from country of origin, so you will, in effect alter them. The genetic background is the same, but how those genes respond can vary due to the differences from the original climate. If you continue on your path, your plants will "acclimate" to their new conditions, but it's impossible to know how much change you can induce, or what exactly to expect. Also, your selections introduce additional variables. Technically, you could end up with something very different from the original landrace after enough generations of differing conditions and selection methods. It's all in the genetic code, but your best bet is open pollination using ALL the males and females from every generation to keep the genetic diversity and avoid bottle necks if you want to keep the strain as "pure" as possible.

Not impossible, but a tall order to be sure.
 
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