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Strain Recommendation Request

gobigorstayhome

New member
Okay. I'm posting a similar query on all the most popular pot forums, and I'll see if I can't make this one shorter - but no promises. Third time at the plate, and I haven't managed a truly short one yet. Can't help it...I'm a windbag. ;)

I live in coastal eastern Canada, between a 5b and a 6a horticultural zone. Give or take a week, first of June is the planting time here, and September 1st to 15th is about the ideal harvesting time. September gets colder, days warm up slower, and humidity lingers in the air. Mold becomes an issue during that time range, and worsens after that date, though cropping into October is an option. I've seen one particular strain harvested in November, but whatever it was (the seed came out of purchased pot), it was the toughest plant I've ever come across - not to mention one of the most potent, and possibly the biggest producer, as well...and unfortunately, it's gone.

Back to it. I grow in a swamp, so humidity is an especial issue for me. I don't fuck with plants that require you to hold their hand, which is in line with the reason I grow in a swamp: I never ever have to water. Fert-sensitive strains, finicky strains, ones that can't handle it if their soil gets over-wet, etc., are strains I have no time for. I like to check my plants about once a week, until it gets a bit into flowering, then a bit more often, weather depending, pull off dying leaves when I'm there, fertilize 2-3 times after the initial transplant fertilization, and that's about it. But though I'm not going to get into specifics as far as what I do goes, to save you reading a bunch more, I'll letcha know that I know what I'm doing. Despite my hands-off approach, I'm used to pulling in close to - or more than - a pound off of transplanted 4' mothers, and I'm used to 200-300g or more off transplanted clones that were vegged for two weeks after rooting. I've been doing this for awhile, and I don't mess around with anything that doesn't fall into that range, roughly - I know I don't have to. I'm almost 40, and have been smoking since I was 15. When I was young, I hung with people who were around my age now - old-schoolers who either grew, or knew what they were doing. My point is that I know what good weed is - I've smoked some shit that would seriously blow your mind (it blew mine!) and the reason I'm telling you that is to let you know that I am in no way shape or form an inexperienced noob.

All that being said, what I'm looking for here is some recommendations - from your own personal experience! - for strains that you can say with 100% certainty will finish in my area by the middle of September or so - but preferably earlier than that - that produce real quality in the amounts I'm used to being produced. I have standbys, and I know of some retailed strains that accomplish here, but I'm looking for some new blood. Please - and I mean this in the kindest possible light - don't waste my time with 'I heards,' 'this strain's got a good reputations,' or 'try this breeder' kinda shit. That stuff already takes up way too much space on the forums, and though I wasted most of a day sifting through that kinda garbage, only to follow up numerous leads that ended with contradictory reports and unreliable information, I should have realized in the first 15 minutes that that's all it would amount to, because it was apparent even then. I've taken the time to speak on my experience so as to avoid amateur and noob information - it's of no use to me. Again, I don't mean to offend; I'm just trying to save everyone's time, and hopefully create a thread that will be useful and uncluttered for when someone else is seeking the same information I am.

What I'm looking for: yield, potency, a bit about what you put in as far as efforts, and what kinda medium, and how much of it your plants had, and when it will finish by where I am - and I'd like to hear it from people who know what they're talking about, generally, and from their own personal experience. If you've got a stereotypical sativa property strain that fits the bill - i.e. an 'up' high, no lethargic body stone or narcotic kinda effect, no paranoia, and maybe a bit on the psychedelic side (not necessarily required), I'd especially like to hear about it. I've learned that the sativa stereotype is like every other stereotype - it's not a rule without exceptions; I've smoked near-pure indicas that had that kinda buzz, and near pure sativas that laid you out - so I don't really care which the strain happens to be, but I'm partial to the cerebral, mild/no body stone buzzes, myself, and I'd like to find one or two to put out just for me. But what I'm mainly looking for is some new blood for the cash crop, and of some strains that will guarantee that experienced smokers will not be straying around to other providers. Ideally, something truly exceptional, but I want 'very good,' at a minimum - and lots of it.

Sorry I didn't manage to make this short...I knew I wouldn't, anyway - and thanks in advance for any advice.

Cheers. :)
 

gobigorstayhome

New member
You start out by describing your vast amount of experience, only to lead into the question every new grower asks, "What should I grow?". Why are you asking us to find strains that fit your climate? I mean seriously, drop $5,000 on Mandala seeds, buy every single strain they have, run every single seed outdoors, select for next year. I don't understand how you could be growing for so long, and growing outdoors, and growing in Canada, yet don't have access to genetics to work with, or to you know, run yourself. How about this, you find a whole bunch of genetics, run those genetics and let US know which one works really well in your environment. Then if anyone ever comes back looking for something similar you will be credited as the forefather of that experiment! Wouldn't that be nice?

Just a minute while I mop up this puddle of sarcasm...

There. ;)

First, I said what I said so as to avoid having noobs offer me he-said-she-said shit. I know quality weed, and I know enough about growing it. I'm not an expert, but until I get to the point where I have a breeding lab, I don't feel I need to be. And if I need information on specifics of growing, I know that the forums, as well as countless other websites, are full of that kind of thing.

I have strains - all crosses between bagseed and/or purchased seeds. I have a couple pretty good ones, though no living mothers. Slap your head if you want - I agree. But there are reasons I won't get into now. I also had three strains that I did have living mothers of, but due to circumstances that were beyond my control, those, sadly, are no longer around. And it's a serious shame, because two of them were complete gems, and are 100% irreplaceable.

I also know of a few strains that finish here that I can buy online, having grown them before. I plan on running at least two of these next year. What I'm looking for, as I said, are recommendations for new blood - and I'm hoping for some people to perhaps recommend little-known strains that meet my criteria, more than anything. Because unfortunately, having purchased several strains over the years online, I've discovered that they don't always perform as advertised, and I really don't like sifting through a lot of junk to find accounts of outdoor grows in similar climates, at similar latitudes - if such can even be found - which is why I'm asking the question. This eliminates all of that hassle and risk, potentially.

But, to answer your implied question, Mandala's Mandala #1, Greenhouse's White Widow and Himalaya Gold, Sagarmatha's Stuporsonic (my personal favorite), Cinderella 99 and its pineapple version, Mendocino Madness (these last two from Attitude), AK47, Diablo, and Blueberry - the original Cinderella and these last I don't know which breeder they came from, offhand - are all strains that finish here, with varying degrees of success. Diablo is mold prone, and Himalaya Gold wasn't nearly as spectacular as advertised, as far as yield goes, though it was a really wet year, but the quality wasn't impressive, either. AK47 varied in quality very widely (wherever it came from, it clearly wasn't stable), but wasn't a big producer, and aside from the Cinderellas - which were awesome for yield - none of them were. 100-250g per plant, but I do have to say that Diablo, despite being mold prone, is fucking spectacular dope.

Also, I've talked to ?Mike? at Mandala, and he refused to recommend anything aside from Mandala #1, which I already knew from experience would finish - including Speed Queen, which I figured would. I just sent an email to Tony at Sagarmatha a couple days ago, to find out what the deal is with the new version of Stuporsonic (one or both parents were lost a few years ago, and I haven't gone after it since), and if he remembered what strains were in the Magical Mystery Mix #1 that was given out by Seed Boutique a few years back, and being so long ago, if he would actually divulge them now - he wouldn't, back then - because there were two strains that came out of that that finished here, and one of them fucking amazingly...again, gone, and again, beyond my control.

Satisfied?
 

gobigorstayhome

New member
Oh. And I should add that I know Manitoba Poison works, and Texada Timewarp. Also, Swiss Miss - though it's fucking garbage...or was then, anyway. There were a couple others I tried, early on, but I don't remember what they were; they were all on par with Swiss Miss,so there was no reason to remember them. The only reason I remember that one was that it went into a cross - a plant hermied - with an Afghani that wasn't great either, but produced an incredibly uniform and stable strain that was really fucking great. Unfortunately, out of over a hundred seeds, zero popped this year. This winter, I'm going to make the attempt myself.
 

LoganKush

Member
"First, I said what I said so as to avoid having noobs offer me he-said-she-said shit. I know quality weed, and I know enough about growing it. I'm not an expert, but until I get to the point where I have a breeding lab, I don't feel I need to be. And if I need information on specifics of growing, I know that the forums, as well as countless other websites, are full of that kind of thing."

Any review you can give about MJ Seeds Canada? Have you tried any of their strains? I'm growing Diesel from them now.
 

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