You could always build a chase down both sides or or run the ducts through the walls and dump back in where ever you want them.
Had a bunch of other comments on other post but my fucking computer keeps kicking me off line
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Unclefishstick's Guide to Home Bicycle Repair
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Had a bunch of other comments on other post but my fucking computer keeps kicking me off line
That's what the boost is at my shop minus 15% discount. I use 7.5 ml's a gallon about every other feeding now.
When mixing up four 30 gallon rez's it pains me to see 225 ml's going in. That's pretty much $22.50 each rez just in boost for each week.
Obviously I need to start buying in bulk cause I'll go thru a liter a week. Good thing I can write it off come tax time lol.
Ithought about ducting into the crawl space on both sides .... but i'm trying to keep the holes to a minimum .... its a rental & all this needs to be gone & walls fixed when i leave . a chase down each side would give me even less room .
i was thinking about taking the line on the right & putting it up in the ceiling . that would give me the whole right side to work in the trays . & with one filter low (window end ) & one filter high (entrance end ) ithink 1 intake up & 1 down would really get a cross of air flow going . whatcha think G ???
7.5 isn't to bad .... if i feed everyday I can probably drop that to 5ml . thats pretty much the same as everything else in canna that i use . 5ml zyme 5ml rhizo 5 to 7 ml A & B in flower etc......
i have no idea what a bucket of nutes cost me,at some point it became irrelevant to me i guess...i mean i pour that stuff on the flower beds when i make too much....need to do some transplanting and stick some chemdog99 clones....really outstanding herb,smoked a bowl out in the desert today,really nice stuff...and part of the problem probably,i was just wrecked after that bowl...gotta remember in the future that i can access these same roads from the top and do all the climbing bits on paved roads...riding a mountain bike downhill is loads of fun...grinding out some horrid loose climb maybe not so much....satisfying for sure,but not really fun...
throw it outside ant let nature do it....i build up garden beds with mine...
Ill start by saying that no matter if i go vert or regular, i will be getting a 5 x 5, or 6 x 6 tent for veg. The plants in that 2 x 6 closet now are just there temporarily. Everything will be in that room, so obviously they gotta go in a tent. Plus, i thought i was gonna start using CFL's for veg instead of my MH, but then i realized i was runnning about the same watts anyways. And my MH is much more effective. And i cant use my MH in that rectangle shaped 2 x 6 anyways.
What I Have Now
1-6" inline fan
2- Hoods (light reflectors)
1-Lumatek dimmable 1000 watt ballast
1-400 watt ballast
1-1000 watt bulb (hps/mh)
1 -400 watt bulb (mh)
-a few oscilating and wall mount fans
What I will need for vert setup(At this point at least, this is what i think ill need)
1-8" inline fan----Price- unknown
1-8" Air scrubber---price--unknown
1- 5' x 5' (or 6' x 6') veg tent----price----around $150
1-600 watt ballast----price--- around $140
1-600 watt bulb----price---- im guessin around $80
1-Light hood/reflector---price----unknown
2- socket thingy's to hang bare bulbs----price----unknown
What I will need for the horizontal option
1-6" inline fan----unknown
1-6"scrubber-----unknown
1-5' x 5' (or 6' x 6') veg tent------$150
1-10' x 5' flowering tent------$200
1-600 watt ballast------$140
1-600 watt bulb-----around $80(?)
1-Light hood
The vert option should actually be cheaper. I dont have to get the 10 x 5. and I think i got all that right. im kinda tired
Whatever it takes to do one of these options. And, the more i think about it, im not sure I need a window banger. After all, i grew in that little 4' x 5' closet for 3 years, just using one 6" exhaust fan venting the lights and room, and the central air vent in the floor. Even when the "heat" is on, its only set to 71. I really wish somehow my central air was separated by zones. But thats not possible now.
I am very worried about what dan said though. About it being too many amps . Even without adding the A/C. I keep forgeting thats why i didnt upgrade before. Unfortuantley, i know literally zero about electrical. And dan was very right, i cant even run my 1k and 400 on my bedroom circuit. I had to plug the 1k into my bedroom socket, and the 400 i had to run an extension cord into the attic, and drop it into my bathroom. It looks ghetto as hell to. Its just an orange power cord coming out of the corner of the ceiling in my upstairs bathroom, down along the wall and into the socket. Anyways, there has to be some way i can change that, so i can do my upgrade, right? I mean, my house can't be different from everyone else house right? Why can unc run like 8 lights, and 3 total is too much for me? I need to learn about electrical. It just sucks, its not like i can call an electrician to do it for me. That said, im gonna keep trying to figure out how to do this. Where there is a will...
And i paid cash in full for the house at the closing. So i can do whatever, punch holes in the ceiling, etc. The problem is that im electrically retarded.
And i know that vert is supposed to yield more, And ill have a lot of room to train my plants, so i think 20 per, is do-able, even if i end up going horizontal.
Yessir
Im not sure what kind of line you mean. Are you refering to this 6"?vvvvv
Or do you mean that little brown thing above the drying lines? Thats just a hook that was already in the house when i bought it. Maybe the previous owners were growers?
No. I think your talking about that mylar patchwork, Thats just because i ran outta black plastic. It looks terrible, I know. I plan on making it look legit once i figure the window vent situation. Thats kinda embarrassing
What, is it made out of? a mix of creamated rare, endangered species or something? Good God man. Thats around what my whole upgrade is gonna cost.
How do you have all that suff in your attic? My breaker box is in the basement? Sorry if that sounds stupid, but I REALLY know nothing about electric.
What I Have Now
1-6" inline fan
2- Hoods (light reflectors)
1-Lumatek dimmable 1000 watt ballast
1-400 watt ballast
1-1000 watt bulb (hps/mh)
1 -400 watt bulb (mh)
-a few oscilating and wall mount fans
What I will need for vert setup(At this point at least, this is what i think ill need)
1-8" inline fan----Price- unknown
1-8" Air scrubber---price--unknown
1- 5' x 5' (or 6' x 6') veg tent----price----around $150
1-600 watt ballast----price--- around $140
1-600 watt bulb----price---- im guessin around $80
1-Light hood/reflector---price----unknown
2- socket thingy's to hang bare bulbs----price----unknown
What I will need for the horizontal option
1-6" inline fan----unknown
1-6"scrubber-----unknown
1-5' x 5' (or 6' x 6') veg tent------$150
1-10' x 5' flowering tent------$200
1-600 watt ballast------$140
1-600 watt bulb-----around $80(?)
1-Light hood
The vert option should actually be cheaper. I dont have to get the 10 x 5. and I think i got all that right. im kinda tired
Whatever it takes to do one of these options. And, the more i think about it, im not sure I need a window banger. After all, i grew in that little 4' x 5' closet for 3 years, just using one 6" exhaust fan venting the lights and room, and the central air vent in the floor. Even when the "heat" is on, its only set to 71. I really wish somehow my central air was separated by zones. But thats not possible now.
I am very worried about what dan said though. About it being too many amps . Even without adding the A/C. I keep forgeting thats why i didnt upgrade before. Unfortuantley, i know literally zero about electrical. And dan was very right, i cant even run my 1k and 400 on my bedroom circuit. I had to plug the 1k into my bedroom socket, and the 400 i had to run an extension cord into the attic, and drop it into my bathroom. It looks ghetto as hell to. Its just an orange power cord coming out of the corner of the ceiling in my upstairs bathroom, down along the wall and into the socket. Anyways, there has to be some way i can change that, so i can do my upgrade, right? I mean, my house can't be different from everyone else house right? Why can unc run like 8 lights, and 3 total is too much for me? I need to learn about electrical. It just sucks, its not like i can call an electrician to do it for me. That said, im gonna keep trying to figure out how to do this. Where there is a will...
And i paid cash in full for the house at the closing. So i can do whatever, punch holes in the ceiling, etc. The problem is that im electrically retarded.
Right now i harvest the one light(1k) every 2 months. So id like to be able to run the 2 lights on staggered start times, and harvest once a month. I hoping for around 20 zips per run. I was only pulling around 16-18 from my 1k, but i was lucky to get that in there. It was so cramped i couldnt propery care for most of the plants.
And i know that vert is supposed to yield more, And ill have a lot of room to train my plants, so i think 20 per, is do-able, even if i end up going horizontal.
Yessir
Im not sure what kind of line you mean. Are you refering to this 6"?vvvvv
Or do you mean that little brown thing above the drying lines? Thats just a hook that was already in the house when i bought it. Maybe the previous owners were growers?
No. I think your talking about that mylar patchwork, Thats just because i ran outta black plastic. It looks terrible, I know. I plan on making it look legit once i figure the window vent situation. Thats kinda embarrassing
What, is it made out of? a mix of creamated rare, endangered species or something? Good God man. Thats around what my whole upgrade is gonna cost.
How do you have all that suff in your attic? My breaker box is in the basement? Sorry if that sounds stupid, but I REALLY know nothing about electric.
todays ride...one bad thing about the desert is theres never any frickin shade to be had when you want to smoke a bowl....but then i suppose if there were a bunch of trees around it would hardly be a desert would it?
see that steep ass road behind the bike? theres a way to come at that from the top,climbing it would be hike a bike for me...but theres a nice long loop road that comes in from up high and drops through all this country...just gotta find my way back there...
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see that steep ass road behind the bike? theres a way to come at that from the top,climbing it would be hike a bike for me...but theres a nice long loop road that comes in from up high and drops through all this country...just gotta find my way back there...
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distraction. i get distracted easily
pappy i have 30 amp sub panel that plugs into the dryer outlet and all the ballast are running on 220v so im only drawing half the amperage and the rest of the fans and such are split between 2 15amp circuits.in the veg room theres two extra 20 amp breakers and outlets installed...
since its a rental what i would do is get two 4x4 tents and a 2x4 tent,a 6x24 inch carbon filter,a 4 inch inline fan,actually you will need 2 4 inch inline fans,3 small fans for air circulation.
set one tent up with the carbon filter and the 1000w lamp with the 6 inch fan attached to the carbon filter and then blowing through the hood into the second tent set up right beside it and through the second hood with the 400w lamp set up in it.then you would use one of the 4 inch inline fans inside tent 2 with the 400 watt lamp as your intake side and then use some flex duct to passively ventilate the 400w side...
with me so far?
run the 1000w lamp at night time when cooling needs are less,the 6 inch fan with the carbon filter will be left on 24/7,it will be ventilating and scrubbing both tents,and the 4 inch intake fan as well.then run the second tent on the first tents off cycle during your daytime when power cost more and its warmer out.set the 2x4 tent up with the cfls for veg and run that so it comes on halfway through the 1000w tents on cycle,use the extension cord to run veg,use the room outlets for the ballast and maybe the 4 inch fan but use the extension cord for the 6 inch fan...
since its a rental what i would do is get two 4x4 tents and a 2x4 tent,a 6x24 inch carbon filter,a 4 inch inline fan,actually you will need 2 4 inch inline fans,3 small fans for air circulation.
set one tent up with the carbon filter and the 1000w lamp with the 6 inch fan attached to the carbon filter and then blowing through the hood into the second tent set up right beside it and through the second hood with the 400w lamp set up in it.then you would use one of the 4 inch inline fans inside tent 2 with the 400 watt lamp as your intake side and then use some flex duct to passively ventilate the 400w side...
with me so far?
run the 1000w lamp at night time when cooling needs are less,the 6 inch fan with the carbon filter will be left on 24/7,it will be ventilating and scrubbing both tents,and the 4 inch intake fan as well.then run the second tent on the first tents off cycle during your daytime when power cost more and its warmer out.set the 2x4 tent up with the cfls for veg and run that so it comes on halfway through the 1000w tents on cycle,use the extension cord to run veg,use the room outlets for the ballast and maybe the 4 inch fan but use the extension cord for the 6 inch fan...
it was only like 72 out today so i would hardly call the sun a burden...that same spot would suck balls mid summer,thats why im hitting it harder now when conditions are ultra prime for riding...even mid winter all i usually need is a shell jacket and leg warmers,on the colder days i may need tights and another jacket,a pair of liner gloves and maybe some sort of head gear like a balaclava...on a cold day i might have 700 dollars of high tech super fabric shit on to stay warm and dry,but thats sort of fun since its like being in a warm traveling bubble..
72 is perfection in my eyes. I was thinking it was like 90-170 degrees there always. remember, pappy has not traveled ouside of the east coast ever unfortuantely. Thats something i would love to do one day.
And unc- i believe its pronounced, "Bah-Kla-Va" and you dont put it on your head, you eat it
So your thinking adding a 600 watt for flowering is outta the question? I guess Running a 1k and a 400 would be almost as good. But im worried my 330 total watts of cfl isnt enough for me. And i know 2 x 4 won't be. The veg plants are in the 2 x 6 closet now and are cramped.
Are you thinkin i shouldn't add the 600 because of heat? or because i won't be able to accommodate the electrical requirements?
Obviously, i wont be able to use my washing machine plug, so i dont know how to get enough electricity up to the second floor.
And if it matters, its not a rental. I own it outright. So i can punch holes in the ceiling and do whatever i need to.
And unc- i believe its pronounced, "Bah-Kla-Va" and you dont put it on your head, you eat it
So your thinking adding a 600 watt for flowering is outta the question? I guess Running a 1k and a 400 would be almost as good. But im worried my 330 total watts of cfl isnt enough for me. And i know 2 x 4 won't be. The veg plants are in the 2 x 6 closet now and are cramped.
Are you thinkin i shouldn't add the 600 because of heat? or because i won't be able to accommodate the electrical requirements?
Obviously, i wont be able to use my washing machine plug, so i dont know how to get enough electricity up to the second floor.
And if it matters, its not a rental. I own it outright. So i can punch holes in the ceiling and do whatever i need to.
I found the pipe chase n my crawl space that goes to the basement for the 4" plumbing vent that goes through the roof . i ran the 3 wires down i needed & 2 1/4" water lines for my RO unit .
this was going to be my next suggestion ..... do you have a washer dryer on the same floor as that grow room or in the basement ??? you can get a 30 amp control panel like Unc is talkin about or hammer has one .... it plugs right into a dryer outlet & will split up the circuits you need in the room . its the best way in a rental .
Listen to Unc .... he's leading you in the right direction . & JW can help with the vert part of it if thats the way you want to go .
Its gettin there !!!!
& all my little girls !!!!!
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6 of the GG's will get transplanted into 2 gallons & put in the tray very soon . i know they're gonna be kinda small , i'll hold off as long as i can but they NEED to go in soon so i can have a decent Xmas . i do have 4 Headbands about a foot tall going into the middle tray too .... but i need a good harvest in Dec . the last tray will get filled in about a month . not sure which ones will get the big pots to veg in but ... i've got some time to decide . kinda depends on which ones are the strongest & healthiest .
& all my little girls !!!!!
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6 of the GG's will get transplanted into 2 gallons & put in the tray very soon . i know they're gonna be kinda small , i'll hold off as long as i can but they NEED to go in soon so i can have a decent Xmas . i do have 4 Headbands about a foot tall going into the middle tray too .... but i need a good harvest in Dec . the last tray will get filled in about a month . not sure which ones will get the big pots to veg in but ... i've got some time to decide . kinda depends on which ones are the strongest & healthiest .
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Thanx guys!
Dan- that couldnt look ANY better, in my opinion. That is so awesome. I know you said that your prepared for it to be a short, temporary thing, but Im gonna be sad when its time to bring it down
Ill look into that.
My washer dryer is in the basement. grow room is on the second floor. Can i get a 30 amp panel, plug it in the basement, and run wires up to the second floor somehow?
Unc- so can you still use a washer dryer, or is that scraficed?
im not sure what i said that gave u guys the impession it was a rental. but sorry for my confusing-ness.
Dan- that couldnt look ANY better, in my opinion. That is so awesome. I know you said that your prepared for it to be a short, temporary thing, but Im gonna be sad when its time to bring it down
Ill look into that.
My washer dryer is in the basement. grow room is on the second floor. Can i get a 30 amp panel, plug it in the basement, and run wires up to the second floor somehow?
Unc- so can you still use a washer dryer, or is that scraficed?
im not sure what i said that gave u guys the impession it was a rental. but sorry for my confusing-ness.
well shit if you own it then thats another story...if money isnt too big an issue,then strip that room down and have an electrician come in and see what they can do to get more power into the room,theres often space in the breaker panel for more stuff so you may even be able to get some 220v lines dropped in,a couple hundred bucks for up to code work is worth the piece of mind....
then i would get a 4x8 and 4x4 tent...2000w in flower with 400w plus the cfls feeding it should about work out....a 4x8 tent needs two 6 inch fan/filter combos to vent,and a 6 inch for intake seems to work out,for veg a 4 inch out 4 inch in combo should be fine....
no washer or dryer here...
then i would get a 4x8 and 4x4 tent...2000w in flower with 400w plus the cfls feeding it should about work out....a 4x8 tent needs two 6 inch fan/filter combos to vent,and a 6 inch for intake seems to work out,for veg a 4 inch out 4 inch in combo should be fine....
no washer or dryer here...
So now that we are on the same page, you like option two.
the 6" and 4" intakes going into the tents, is that like one of those little flat square fans? or are you talking the same kind as for the exhaust? the inline fans?
And i would definitely be willing to pay to have some electrical work done. But what the hell am i gonna tell him i need that done for? And if i found a 420 friendly electrician, im not sure id want anyone to know where i live. Conundrum
and im pretty sure there is room on the breaker. You really think it would only be a couple hundred bucks to do all that? I hope its under 500, ill be happy
yea i def took advantage of that fuct up housing market, ive had a lot of bad landlords.
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