Are Afghani's mold resistent outdoors?

[Gon Trawling]

Just wondering how Afghanis might handle humid conditions, if they will mold less than hybrids.

 

[mack 10]

No they can and will mold up, worse than hybrid's? depends on weather and strain... Seems keeping hi brix levels can help.

 

[WelderDan]

It's very humid where I'm at and it isn't that much of a problem, unless we get lots of rain. I've never had bud rot indoors and I have no humidity control. Outdoors though, yikes even Sativas are susceptible during the rainy season.

Your mileage, of course, may vary.

 

[Gelado`]

I've had bud rot indoors with a fan blowing directly on the plants...I've also had tiny Afghanis flower and rot in the spring.

 

[zachrockbadenof]

we tried all the 'tricks' and nuthin worked... so we stopped outdoor growing (pity)... it sux's in sept after caring for em for 4months to be cutting out pieces of the bud every day, till there is nothing left...

green cure/asprins/milk... all B.S.... at least they never worked for us...

 

[Mustafunk]

Afghans are the worst thing for grey mold outdoors... we should thank the dutch breeders for mixing them and skunk in most modern strains, making them so mold sensitive and hard to harvest in such conditions lol.

Nothing worked for me either (preventives, fungicides or even Bacillus Thuringensis)... better try Nepalese or other humid proof strains. I've hear great stuff about PCK as well. Tropical strains as well of course.

Best option will be ventilation indoors and force flowering to harvest during the summer outdoors!

Vibes!

 

[Rinse]

The indoor bred Afghans and hybrids are the worst, as Musta pointed out.
Landrace affies can be surprisingly mold resistant, but any indica that goes into October around here is going into danger zone.

Mold resistance is not only due to bud density but also the phytocompounds produced by the plant. I find purple strains are usually more resistant.

 

[Gon Trawling]

Landrace affies can be surprisingly mold resistant,

That's what I was wondering because they come from a very harsh climate, so I thought they would be tougher than hydrids who haven't gone through that natural selection and acclimatized.

 

[zachrockbadenof]

That's what I was wondering because they come from a very harsh climate, so I thought they would be tougher than hydrids who haven't gone through that natural selection and acclimatized.

harsh.. maybe... humid... probably not... and that's the killer... fat/fat buds... humid conditions = MOLD....

 

[Gelado`]

Yup, Afghanistan definitely isn't a rainforest...think 100+ degrees in summer, and in winter, a cold, barren landscape!

 

[Bongstar420]

we tried all the 'tricks' and nuthin worked... so we stopped outdoor growing (pity)... it sux's in sept after caring for em for 4months to be cutting out pieces of the bud every day, till there is nothing left...

green cure/asprins/milk... all B.S.... at least they never worked for us...

Interesting. I have recently observed some very mold susceptible cuts being grown out in the cold Oregon rain. Maybe %1 (2g mold out of probably 1.5-2lbs) after over a week straight and getting flooded by rising waters. Maybe you should reevaluate your treatment regime since it seems to me you are almost there and should have seen decent results.

 

[Gon Trawling]

in the cold Oregon rain.

This is probably the key; mold grows better in warm conditions, especially if there is no air movement.

 

[Gert Lush]

Yes, as others have already pointed out a lot of Afghan, Hindu Kush and other broad-leaf strains originate from super-dry rain shadow areas. They've probably not seen a drop of rain in thousands of years LOL. I think the locals irrigate them with glacial meltwater. They're fine with cold, not so fine with damp.

Himalayan strains may be better for that purpose, they have autumn monsoons to deal with!

 

[idiit]

i went away from affy's outdoors. for narcotic indica style smoke i use ace's malawi sativa looking for the frosty female for clone and breeding. ace malawi is pretty mold resistant. i like plants that flower after bud rot season has passed but finish quick enough for my specific flowering window.

mazar i shariff is an exception. in the high elevations at 36 degree n latitude where it is an indigenous landrace mazar i shariff has two phenos; dry girl, wet girl. mazar i shariff's wet girl is mold resistant.

 

[OakyJoe]

Depends on the Strain. If you want to breed a "landrace" like Afghan i would say NO cause they orginated in some dry area, but if you take a Hybrid this may be possible.

 

[Bongstar420]

This is probably the key; mold grows better in warm conditions, especially if there is no air movement.

We are talking about Botrytis cinerea or at least that is generally what I am affected by and what I am referring to. Google it. I live in a place that grows strawberries and grapes which are regional sources for large spore release of this species of mold.

 

[Joey Bliss]

That's what I was wondering because they come from a very harsh climate, so I thought they would be tougher than hydrids who haven't gone through that natural selection and acclimatized.

White widow get boytritus horribly in NJ outside

 

[Old Piney]

So from my experience Afghani strains are not particularly prone to gray mold. Over the years I've grown Afghani #1, Hindu Kush and several other Afghani and Pakistani strains. I'm in N.J , so I know about humidity and wet autumns .I have found that problems with gray mold are mostly caused by caterpillars that bore into the buds. I am fairly sure that they are cabbage worms .I control them with BT ( it's a biological certified organic )keep a close eye for the tiny caterpillars they before they bore in and spray. Also keep an eye for the little white butterflies that lay the eggs .I my opinion and experience just because a strain comes from a dry climate dosen't mean it's prone to mold. Also I don't go along with the belief that dense buds are more prone than more loose buds. There is a seed co called Getaway Mountain seeds based in coastal Maine that only breeds and sells mold-resistant strains. If you look at their line up you'll see Afghani hybrids , Pakistani and Road kill skunk many described as having rock hard buds

 

[Ca++]

There is a seed co called Getaway Mountain seeds based in coastal Maine that only breeds and sells mold-resistant strains. If you look at their line up you'll see Afghani hybrids , Pakistani and Road kill skunk many described as having rock hard buds

Wouldn't that be living the dream.
I'm not buying it. I'm not sure how many hundred outdoor varieties I have seen, but certain themes are hard to ignore. We are talking ventilation here. How plants have evolved over centuries, to live in different climates, is information worth more than a sales pitch

 

[Old Piney]

Wouldn't that be living the dream.
I'm not buying it. I'm not sure how many hundred outdoor varieties I have seen, but certain themes are hard to ignore. We are talking ventilation here. How plants have evolved over centuries, to live in different climates, is information worth more than a sales pitch

I wasn't making a sales pitch just making observations about their line up of varieties offered and how that relates to my own experience. I've had fluffy Durban poison mold up really bad , it's widely touted as mold-resistant. I've grown Moroccan beldia for two years now with no mold , why would it have adapted to wet conditions? Organisms certainly adapt to their environment through natural selection but there nothing saying that they aren't tolerant anyhow. Look at chickens for example they are native to Indonesia yet they are quite cold-tolerant. As far as bud structure the flip side of the argument is fluffy buds soak up water like a sponge and tight buds repel water. The fact remains there are strains with Afghani heritage with tight bud structures that are very mold-resistant E.G Friesland Indica

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