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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I have a few cheeses growing (WEEK 6) under 600 mh with t5 and cfl supplemental lighting. My girls are very healthy however, they are unbelievably dense. Should I prune or tie these down? Or should I just let em keep vegging.
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I'd bring them back up to health before you do anything. You can see the signs of possible pH problems starting to set in. I'd check the run off of the soil and keep the lights as high as you can until they are healthy. I can't tell you 100% if you got pH problems but that's the first place to start. What you would do is to water your plants with a light nutrient solution and pour the solution very slowly. If you are in soil, make sure to pH the solution to 6.8 and keep adding solution until only about 200 mL or so of solution comes out of the bottom of your containers. Collect that solution and check the pH and PPM of it. If you are in soil, then your run off pH should measure above 6 and below 7.

 

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What indicates a ph problem to you snype? I'm getting 6.8 to 7 ph readings
everyday

When you are getting 6-7 readings, what are you testing exactly? Are you talking about testing the solution before you feed it to the plants? Or after you feed it to the plants?

Here's my logic. New growers are notorious for over feeding so I'm going to put you into that category from the start until I know more information. Once you tell me what exactly was reading 6-7, i can better get you to the next step. Most plant problems in here are due to pH problems but you may not have that but I will know soon.

It could also be heat, light being too close, over watering, nute issues, but I don't have a lot of information to work with.

 

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I am measuring the ph of the soil with a stick ph meter. My temps are a pretty consistent 76 to 81 and feeding I have been feeding every three watering cycles with nute at 1/2 to 3/4 strength. Most recently I flushed the plants 3 days ago and left town. Came back today and watered them. I also spotted this on one or two leaves out of all the plants. Not sure what it is?

 

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Thats ph issues ......like snype said.

 

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Whats the best way to lower ph in soil?

 

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I am measuring the ph of the soil with a stick ph meter. My temps are a pretty consistent 76 to 81 and feeding I have been feeding every three watering cycles with nute at 1/2 to 3/4 strength. Most recently I flushed the plants 3 days ago and left town. Came back today and watered them. I also spotted this on one or two leaves out of all the plants. Not sure what it is?

Yeah those stick pH meters aren't reliable for reading the soil in my opinion. You have to do a Run-Off test like I stated above with a real pH meter. I'm fairly certain you have pH problems but you also said that you flushed your soil. I'm not sure why you would flush your soil but it's not really a good idea unless you had a toxic build up of nutes. I flush my soil with nutrients instead. This is if you are using salt based nutrients though. Once you figure out what your run off pH is, you will have a better idea with what your problems are. If it turns out that you have pH problems, you will have to flush the soil with a nutrient mix with maybe 3 times the pot size of solution if you are using salt based nutes. What were you pHing your feed too when you fed them?

 

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Thanks snype, I

 

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Thanks snype, I'm off to the garden center in the morning to get proper testing supplies. What should I do to raise the ph if that's what's needed

Tell me more about which brand of soil that you are using and tell me your nutrient company that you are using too and tell me exactly what you have been giving the plants per gallon and I will tell you what I would do. Make sure to give me all the measurements for the different products that you are using.

 

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Using happy frog soil and tech afloat nutes I'm using the recipe as suggested then adding reverse osmosis water to dilute a bit. Per gallon bc boost 3tsp, bc grow 1/12 tsp, thrive alive red 1/2 tsp, magical 1/2 tsp and sugar daddy 2tsp...

I'm very familiar with their program and used their line for 10 years. What are you pHing it to and with what meter are you using to pH your feed?

 

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We'll I'm not actually ph ing anything except keeping track of it by measuring the soil
It's called a rapid ph tester

 

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Sometimes when it gets to 7 on the meter I add some lemon to my water to bring down the ph

 

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I don't think Lemon is all that effective

 

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We'll I'm not actually ph ing anything except keeping track of it by measuring the soil
It's called a rapid ph tester

If you are not pHing your nutes, then your pH will actually be below 6.0. That thing that you have for pH is garbage in my opinion. You have to pH your feed to 6.8 every time you water. You even have to pH your water to 6.8 because you are not organic and you are using salt based nutes. pH is very important. Now it doesn't matter how much nutes you give your plants because the plant isn't able to uptake the nutes because of your pH problems. That's why your leaves are getting fucked up.

 

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Can you tell me the best way to do this?