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And how is one supposed to arrange that ropy mess into a container of soil or coir?
Hold the clone in the empty pot, letting the roots dangle in there, while you add the soil?
Those are some serious roots though huh?
It was kinda a joke between Snype and I. Not to be discussed and taken seriously.
Those are some serious roots though huh?
It was kinda a joke between Snype and I. Not to be discussed and taken seriously.
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SooperSmurph
A friend of mine cuts them apart with scissors when they're like that, they seem to do just fine, lol.
When I have a long root mass, I create a root ball out of it by rotating the clone in a circle as i'm lowering it into the pot.
Yeah, I'd just snip those short or maybe twist some in as you describe. But what a mess!
Growing roots fast and growing roots long are usually two different things.
Growing roots fast and growing roots long are usually two different things.
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SooperSmurph
The root ball created by the rotating of the clone usually takes hold really nicely, causing the roots to expand outwards in all directions rather than simply downwards, filling the entire container even at the top by the end of their time in that pot.
Yeah, I've done it , works well. But I prefer to have a bit of media between the roots instead of the majority surface contact being with other root surfaces. Guess with a plant that's going to be cut down in 70 days anyway it's no big deal.
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AlterEgo860
anyone make a cloner out of a tote? i made one and it leaks like a bitch.. from the lid.. i need to find a way to fix this. i made 2 identical to eachother.. and they work great. just make a mess.
Depends on what kind of tote you have. With the Rubbermaid Roughneck people have had success turning the lid upside down.
Most manufacturers make their totes in an assortment of sizes. If yours is one of these then you can buy the next size up to house your cloner. Avoiding spots where there would be tight plastic to plastic contact between the two, drill some holes in the bottom of your leaky cloner. Now with the two nested, the water dripping from the cloner unit will form a bath in the outer larger tote that maintains with the water level inside. This method is nice in that you now have a stealth container to house your cloner when not in use, and you can add water without lifting the lid.
Or, measure the dimensions of the cloner lid. Use this to find a rectangular tub (for mixing mortar) just a little bigger for the cloner to sit in and catch the drips. If it's taller than the water level you could drill the holes, or just empty the tub occasionally.
Some people have had success with adhesive foam weather stripping under the lid.
http://m.lowes.com/product?langId=-...=3551290&store=3095&view=detail&nValue=SEARCH
Add weather strip like rabbit suggested and your set
I used this same tote as an ezcloner before I actually got an ezcloner
It was free, that's the only reason I upgraded lol
Add weather strip like rabbit suggested and your set
I used this same tote as an ezcloner before I actually got an ezcloner
It was free, that's the only reason I upgraded lol
Thats what I do too. Ive noticed the same thing. Thats why I grow my roots to about 6" - 8" long, then put them into the medium while twisting the clone. The roots fold around like a rope or garden hose. I add abit of soil as I go.
The plant really seem to love it, and it establishes a solid root mass that spreads the roots out from the top down in all directions.
The top soil is usually so rootbound its hard to get a stake in there to hold up the buds.
Check out this rootmass when I t/p'ed the clones from 1gln to 3gln pots w/ 6 weeks of veg. The roots were thick from the top down throughout the entire 1gln pot~
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AlterEgo860
ya i have 2 14 gallon totes made into cloners.. the lids are the same as the 18 gallon totes also. i ttried to go smaller so i could fit as many cloners in my clone room as possible.. but they leak like a bitch.. it seems to be the way the sprayers hit the bottom of the top.. iunno im going to go work on it tomaro..been using jiffy pellets till i have time to fix these things.
There is breather holes under the handles that need sealed up that's where most the water leaked on mine when I used them before I got a Ez cloner
If you have roots like that, and u use hydroton as a medium,It can be difficult. An also cause a transplant shock /stall. I have found the best way from ez clone with large roots, Place the plant container half full with hydroton then the clone. Place that net pot into a bucket or tub filled with water . The Water should be just about as high as the net rim. ( just low enough so the hydroton wont float out). Take another container with hydroton an start to pour hydroton into the plant/net container, then at the same time start to lift the plant container out of the water while pouring hydroton. Water suspension transplants is the best way for hydroton transfers i have found so far.
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SooperSmurph
The time between when your plants are being cloned and the time they are flowered and harvested is a sufficient buffer.
SooperSmurf: Thank you for all the effort you put into it (meaning icmag aka. us). Scientifically useless but believable and helpful information to me atleast. Would rep if I could.
Someone was talking about root structure stating that you need this and that. I've crawled ICMAG through over and over and remembered a couple of a facts which i'd like to share:
1st: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3838091&postcount=107
2nd: Don't have any link i'm afraid but maybe someone can find it? TAG growers demonstrated the difference between aeroponics and true high pressure aeroponics. Same conclusions as Heath has. The more surface area roots have the more effectively they work.
...so based on these insufficient and empty references i'm here to declare that whoever tells you something else rants their beliefs simply because they can not produce that perfection and are blinded by their own ego which poisons their minds with autosuggestions.
Exaggerative indeed but there is a truth in it. In nature plants need different shit for different purposes but homegrown eliminates the one that matters: Difference. We can break some of the simplicity that comes with indoor growing but diversity of the root mass isn't something that you should pursue. Effectiveness at the other hand is.
I don't have great wisdom or experience in me so please be gentle but i stand by my words.
Someone was talking about root structure stating that you need this and that. I've crawled ICMAG through over and over and remembered a couple of a facts which i'd like to share:
1st: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3838091&postcount=107
2nd: Don't have any link i'm afraid but maybe someone can find it? TAG growers demonstrated the difference between aeroponics and true high pressure aeroponics. Same conclusions as Heath has. The more surface area roots have the more effectively they work.
...so based on these insufficient and empty references i'm here to declare that whoever tells you something else rants their beliefs simply because they can not produce that perfection and are blinded by their own ego which poisons their minds with autosuggestions.
Exaggerative indeed but there is a truth in it. In nature plants need different shit for different purposes but homegrown eliminates the one that matters: Difference. We can break some of the simplicity that comes with indoor growing but diversity of the root mass isn't something that you should pursue. Effectiveness at the other hand is.
I don't have great wisdom or experience in me so please be gentle but i stand by my words.
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SooperSmurph
I'm no Phd, i'm not a real botanist and make no claims of being one, I just provide the data that I can collect from my experiments / trials and share it with the community so as to help them make more informed choices.
I dip in gel.
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Superthrive is 1-Naphthyl acetic acid. Could we replace that with Dip N Grow (IBA and NAA) and have same effects? Studies have shown that "vitamin" fertilizer don't really do anything to plants beneficial or have increase growth.
