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massive main colas
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closetpower
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well, like mr blah said, remove low branches. Also, top your buds - that is, snip off the very topmost bit off of your tallest branches. That will make the lower branches grow faster, so that you get several big colas in the best & brightest spot under your artificial sun.
As you go from vegetative lights to 12/12, doing the above will help you to produce several big main flowering branches, aka colas. After the growth spurt slows down, simply remove all thin little stems & branches under the main canopy - all those little ones who will never reach the optimal light will just drain resources from the main growth.
Just realized that sounds really hard & fascistic.. but anyways, get rid of those. I smoke the trim, because that is one way of keeping track on how your plants are doing. For example, if your plants are pale green and simply not growing as much as they should, and the removed leaves are completely smooth when you smoke them? Well, that tells me that the plants just aint taking in the nutrients they need. Leafs and trim from hydro plants should be relatively harsh to smoke, because of the nutrient content.
On the other hands, if the plants are really dark green, but not growing as well as they should, and trim is is like smoking ground up plastic bag? That's over-fertilization which is hindering their growth.
Find out the optimal lighting depth of your lamp, and try to keep your main branches within it. Cooltube helps, and i personally use 5" 12v DC fans for computers to blow heat away from the bulb.
that's my 2cents worth anyways, hope it helps.
As you go from vegetative lights to 12/12, doing the above will help you to produce several big main flowering branches, aka colas. After the growth spurt slows down, simply remove all thin little stems & branches under the main canopy - all those little ones who will never reach the optimal light will just drain resources from the main growth.
Just realized that sounds really hard & fascistic.. but anyways, get rid of those. I smoke the trim, because that is one way of keeping track on how your plants are doing. For example, if your plants are pale green and simply not growing as much as they should, and the removed leaves are completely smooth when you smoke them? Well, that tells me that the plants just aint taking in the nutrients they need. Leafs and trim from hydro plants should be relatively harsh to smoke, because of the nutrient content.
On the other hands, if the plants are really dark green, but not growing as well as they should, and trim is is like smoking ground up plastic bag? That's over-fertilization which is hindering their growth.
Find out the optimal lighting depth of your lamp, and try to keep your main branches within it. Cooltube helps, and i personally use 5" 12v DC fans for computers to blow heat away from the bulb.
that's my 2cents worth anyways, hope it helps.
Yikes!
If you want a large main cola, topping your plant is the last thing you want to do. That ensures you will not get a main cola at all!
If you want to bush out your plant at the expense of your main cola, you can top or FIM it; however, that's a very different method addressing a very different objective.
Uuuum use the search and read read read. Theres probably 100 threads on growing big top buds.
Genetics is gonna be your main deal next to conditions and your skill.
You gotta grow to learn to grow. Nothing trumps real world experiance and practice and getting to know your ladies.
Read read read and grow grow grow!
Genetics is gonna be your main deal next to conditions and your skill.
You gotta grow to learn to grow. Nothing trumps real world experiance and practice and getting to know your ladies.
Read read read and grow grow grow!
Indica dominant hybrids that like frequent feeding. Lots of 1k HPS and lot's of nutrients.
This is a joke right? Smoke the leaves to determine what your plants are doing? Are you blind and cant see what theyre doing?
And really? To get big main colas trim the lower branches and top the main to promote the lowers you previously cut to grow?
Indoors:
Mixed light spectrum. I will utilize a combination of Metal Halide and enhanced spectrum HPS for maximum growth rates.
Do not over fertilize, increase Magnesium and sulfur levels by 30% beginning on day 12 of flowering (end of stretch).
Remove under growth and allow plant to focus on new growth.
Flip to flower just as the plant begins alternating growth nodes.
Develop an incredibly healthy root system before flowering and support it throughout the grow.
Maintain a constant temperature between 74 and 77 degrees, a relative humidity between 55% and 65%, all day and all night for the entire grow.
Place the light as close to the top of the plants as possible. Consider vertical arrangements.
Strain selection is extremely important.
Mixed light spectrum. I will utilize a combination of Metal Halide and enhanced spectrum HPS for maximum growth rates.
Do not over fertilize, increase Magnesium and sulfur levels by 30% beginning on day 12 of flowering (end of stretch).
Remove under growth and allow plant to focus on new growth.
Flip to flower just as the plant begins alternating growth nodes.
Develop an incredibly healthy root system before flowering and support it throughout the grow.
Maintain a constant temperature between 74 and 77 degrees, a relative humidity between 55% and 65%, all day and all night for the entire grow.
Place the light as close to the top of the plants as possible. Consider vertical arrangements.
Strain selection is extremely important.
moby dick
THIS^^^
Get your room dialed, it's especially important to have a thriving root system. Roots grow big and strong when they are kept warm, temperature differentials (day/nigh temps) need to be kept within 10F range and the tighter you close that gap the better your roots will grow. Consider putting a heater in your grow room to kick on at lights off or even wrap your pots with insulation if you want....yeah I'm serious, bubble wrap works great.
You can keep a great environment but as Snow says, it will all come down to genetics in the end. Also use CalMag right up to 40 days flower +/- (strain dependent).
Since we're chatting about donkey dick colas, here's some bud porn hehe....massive colas grown by Ganja Baba, all done in soil. Check out his thread here... https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=219268
Kalishnapple
Grown by Ganja Baba
Grown by Ganja Baba
Ganja has his shit dialed down, I grew out this cut and didn't get anything even close to this although I was growing vertical and with my style of growing you get bigger side buds compared to growing horizontally.
Peace,
HGO
All great info here..
One thing i have learned over the years about SOG'n for prophet is this.
100% of customers will not take 12" colas! lol.. we have learned to grown 1000's more usable nugs that have great bag appeal and everyone will accept.
we have found also that constant room temp of 76 is optimum, RH 50-60%.
Cheers all
One more thing, A properly designed and dialed SOG will have no need for clearing out the bottom growth, keepin your garden in the proper height range and proper feed results in 100% usable nuggage.. NO waste is the name of the game, if you have to trim up your gals you vegged to long or you philosophy is off. 2.5 cents
One thing i have learned over the years about SOG'n for prophet is this.
100% of customers will not take 12" colas! lol.. we have learned to grown 1000's more usable nugs that have great bag appeal and everyone will accept.
we have found also that constant room temp of 76 is optimum, RH 50-60%.
Cheers all
One more thing, A properly designed and dialed SOG will have no need for clearing out the bottom growth, keepin your garden in the proper height range and proper feed results in 100% usable nuggage.. NO waste is the name of the game, if you have to trim up your gals you vegged to long or you philosophy is off. 2.5 cents
Not many SOGR's worried about plant #'s... It would kind of defeat the point dont you think?
closetpower
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Not really a joke...
Not really a joke...
Not a joke I'm afraid. I have used this to diagnose plants, in conjunction with other symptoms. For example , I can see that the plants are not doing as well as they should, and leaves do not have that harsh, nutrient rich taste? From this I deduce that the plants are not able to absorb nutrients which led me to PH-test the reservoir water, which in turn clued me in to the fact that tap water grows algae at drop of a blunt ash. I washed the reservoir, dis-infected it and pump & tubing with hydrogen peroxide, made double sure that NO light gets into the nutrients, discovered that - this made no difference. A bit of googling, and i found out that the problem was the quality of water - low in oxygen, filled with algae and having an EC reading of 0.7
These problems led me to buy an electronic PH and EC meters - previously I only had the liquid ph test kit, and the nutrient bottle label to go by.
So, I guess the message is: If you want to Max out your strains' potential? Get the tools to know what is going on in the medium and nutrients.
Also, I was thinking of maximizing number of potential main colas with, say, 400w hps light used in a confined space. Haven't really tried to maximize the yield on single colas, it's just my method with those circumstances has worked for me.
And this thread was rather sparse and stringy. So, I thought to fertilize it with a big load of bullshit, and look! already it is growing
Not really a joke...
Not a joke I'm afraid. I have used this to diagnose plants, in conjunction with other symptoms. For example , I can see that the plants are not doing as well as they should, and leaves do not have that harsh, nutrient rich taste? From this I deduce that the plants are not able to absorb nutrients which led me to PH-test the reservoir water, which in turn clued me in to the fact that tap water grows algae at drop of a blunt ash. I washed the reservoir, dis-infected it and pump & tubing with hydrogen peroxide, made double sure that NO light gets into the nutrients, discovered that - this made no difference. A bit of googling, and i found out that the problem was the quality of water - low in oxygen, filled with algae and having an EC reading of 0.7
These problems led me to buy an electronic PH and EC meters - previously I only had the liquid ph test kit, and the nutrient bottle label to go by.
So, I guess the message is: If you want to Max out your strains' potential? Get the tools to know what is going on in the medium and nutrients.
Also, I was thinking of maximizing number of potential main colas with, say, 400w hps light used in a confined space. Haven't really tried to maximize the yield on single colas, it's just my method with those circumstances has worked for me.
And this thread was rather sparse and stringy. So, I thought to fertilize it with a big load of bullshit, and look! already it is growing
Step 1: Get a strain that likes to produce single colas. Indicas usually perfom best. I have a White Rhino that's is about as good as it gets for this and it's potent & taste great.
Step 2: Do not top, bend etc. Veg until you got some huge sun leaves and it's about a foot tall, but don't let it get tall or stretch. That means don't let it get root bound in a small cup and make sure it's not competing for light or space. Give it room.
Step 3: Flip to 12/12 and lollipop but leave the big leaves. Only the top couple inches should remain and everything below should be pruned. NOTE: I will cut the stem off at each node while leaving the large sun leaf.
Step 4: Put up netting just above the tops if you do this right at the flip, but if you do it later try to position so it will hold up the huge buds. Expect about 16" for stretch. More if you got a sativa.
Also, my 2 cents for single colas in hydro is ebb&flow in 4"x4" rockwool cubes. A 1k HPS over 48 of these in a 4'x4' ebb&flow table is very productive. When time is factored I argue it may be the most. 3 lbs with right strain and dialed.
Step 2: Do not top, bend etc. Veg until you got some huge sun leaves and it's about a foot tall, but don't let it get tall or stretch. That means don't let it get root bound in a small cup and make sure it's not competing for light or space. Give it room.
Step 3: Flip to 12/12 and lollipop but leave the big leaves. Only the top couple inches should remain and everything below should be pruned. NOTE: I will cut the stem off at each node while leaving the large sun leaf.
Step 4: Put up netting just above the tops if you do this right at the flip, but if you do it later try to position so it will hold up the huge buds. Expect about 16" for stretch. More if you got a sativa.
Also, my 2 cents for single colas in hydro is ebb&flow in 4"x4" rockwool cubes. A 1k HPS over 48 of these in a 4'x4' ebb&flow table is very productive. When time is factored I argue it may be the most. 3 lbs with right strain and dialed.
love that line, really did lol
yeah that's what you can do, ive done it a couple of times and its how I keep my moms, cut the tops to either the level of the tallest side branch OR you top the plant completely and the side branches pick up where the main cola left off
the smoking leaves thing? . . . yeah it hit me kinda odd/off as well but fuck it whatever gets his plants to potency is fine by me
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