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British Scientists Claim to Have Found Proof of Alien Life

bobblehead

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Time travel would tear a hole in the time space continuum, and this universe would swallow itself... lol...

holy shit guys smoke a j. :joint:

There's not a lot of new technology coming out anymore... There are more improvements to the current technology. That's what I would expect to see. No time travel or teleportation... but cars that drive themselves, nano technology, genetics... Those are the areas you're going to see changes. Not so much new discoveries as improvements to existing processes.
 

southflorida

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without thought there is no such thing as time...lol

in reality there is nothing but this present moment experience
 

GMT

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stop with the bullshit south. If time doesn't exist without thought, how did time pass from there being no one to think, to the time when there was someone to think?
 

Eighths-n-Aces

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southflorida

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stop with the bullshit south. If time doesn't exist without thought, how did time pass from there being no one to think, to the time when there was someone to think?

it seems i'm not the one BSing and running around threads in this forum trolling others...it is YOU!

so it is you that should stop doing that!
 

HUGE

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stop with the bullshit south. If time doesn't exist without thought, how did time pass from there being no one to think, to the time when there was someone to think?

Time exists in the same way lines of longitude exist. Or inches exist.
 

bombadil.360

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IF there was an actual "big bang" that created the universe, then there has to be an edge.

so what if that isn't how it was created.

there is either an edge or not, regardless our ability to discern it.

if there was no "big bang" as theorized, it still doesn't rule out an edge.

my personal theory is that the universe is shaped like a toroid and galaxies spin round within that toroid. this correlates well with universal field theory of curved space-time continuum...distances so large that expansion cannot be measured in our time frame (our puny measurements).

the statistical probabilites of extraterrestrial life just about guarantee it.


as I understand, if the big bang theory is correct, the universe would be in a constant state of expansion, so how could we determine its edges when they are always expanding? by the time we catch the light coming out of those edges (that is, assuming we are able to catch so-distant a light), those edges would have long been expanded.

peace
 

southflorida

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as I understand, if the big bang theory is correct, the universe would be in a constant state of expansion, so how could we determine its edges when they are always expanding? by the time we catch the light coming out of those edges (that is, assuming we are able to catch so-distant a light), those edges would have long been expanded.

i think the main point is not if we can measure the edges, but the fact that they exist, because for something to be objective it has to have limits and constraints, or edges, etc.
 

bombadil.360

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i think the main point is not if we can measure the edges, but the fact that they exist, because for something to be objective it has to have limits and constraints, or edges, etc.


hello south,

assuming there's an ever expanding universe, the term "edges" becomes void of significance; as an edge or limit by definition means something that marks the end of something in time and/or space.

under that model, too, the expansion happens at a very high speed...

it is as if you lived in a house whose walls were expanding at 1000 miles per minute, and you tried to run at 3 miles per hour trying to hang a painting on them :tiphat: here, walls, edges or limits become empty words.

peace
 

southflorida

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hello south,

assuming there's an ever expanding universe, the term "edges" becomes void of significance; as an edge or limit by definition means something that marks the end of something in time and/or space.

under that model, too, the expansion happens at a very high speed...

it is as if you lived in a house whose walls were expanding at 1000 miles per minute, and you tried to run at 3 miles per hour trying to hang a painting on them :tiphat: here, walls, edges or limits become empty words.

peace

I understand what you're saying, and in your example above it would be absurd to try and hang them pictures :) , and here comes the "but"

...but, my point is that something "objectively real" has constraints and a certain way of being.

...if we imagine the universe as a large pizza expanding, we can see that the pizza will still have the edges.

Obviously this is a difficult topic to discuss, so I guess using analogies, while smoking weed, is the closest we will get. :biggrin:
 

SRGB

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GMT:

srgb, after a couple of lines, I just knew you would be a tesla nut too. So what else? Lock ness? Big Foot? The tooth fairy?
No you absolutely do not have the right to believe in what ever you want. That is what nut houses are for. What you have the right to, is to research and analyse facts. Not to spout nonsense as reality. That is why those books are not in the reference section in book stores and libraries. Lay lines? Really, I didn't even know people were still around who hadn't seen through that shit yet. Please please, don't start with crop circles are alien landing sites next



bombadil.360:

the electromagnetic grid of the earth is considered when it is time to adjust many modern day technologies, navigational, telecommunications and others.

you seem to be stuck in some sort of blind "hard-science" from the 19th century



bill cooper:

You know fine well he meant ley lines which as i posted is utter nonsense ,you seem to believe in any old shit seen any more aliens recently




Hi, GMT. Hi, bombadil.360. Hi, bill cooper.

Intriguing, passionate replies. Setting aside and ignoring the clearly unnecessary and irrelevant characterizations from parts of posts above, the below might be helpful, for those interested in, perhaps, at least a slightly broader perspective on the topics of life existing in the universe beyond Earth; along with some of the geopositions of certain geoglyphs and megaliths on Earth. Again, individuals can vet and draw their own conclusions about the accuracy of the data.

Relevant to `alien` life, perhaps the 1st link might resolve that question in the affirmative, or, not; based on a person`s pre-disposed notions of what might constitute `life`.

Recalling that a much repeated phrase, at least in popular media, that `life as we know it` [sic] required water. They found the water, and reported their findings, yesterday.

Relevant to citing references, the 2nd and 3rd links might satisfy the requirement that a cited data source be authored by a recognized academics - whether you agree with them, or not. No less than a Harvard graduate, and the Royal Astronomical Society. They may reach different conclusions, but that might occur constantly in any and all areas of science, in fact vetting of data is healthy and an integral part of the scientific method.

There might be a possibility of many points of view regarding the validity of `ley lines`. They could be dismissed, or explored, depending on the pre-disposed notions of the interpreter, or an individuals` capacity or incapacity for further acquisition of knowledge.

A trivial example based solely on perspective might be to conceptualize the flow of knowledge to and from ICMAG by its memebers and guests. ICMAG might resemble a beacon, or, in fact a power source, or source of and repository for knowledge, with lines drawn to it from all over the Earth, hence International, each member of ICMAG might resemble a `ley line`. It is solely up to that member whether they decide to conduct positive or negative energy through the circuit.

The energy from the members` or guests` conceptual `ley line` might be subtle, it might be overt; recognized for what it is, or not - but the raw human energy might empirically exist:

ICMAG:

Currently Active Users: 1840 (376 members and 1464 guests) | Members: 343,745 Threads: 208,556 Posts: 5,185,186


In any event these might be relevant, timely, or of interest:

Nasa's Curiosity rover finds water in Martian soil The Guardian, Thursday, September 26 2013

The Great Pyramid, the Cholula Pyramid, and the Pyramids of the Sun and Moon: working together to prove that "2012" isn't nonsense Joseph C. Keller, M.D., (B.A., cum laude, Mathematics, Harvard)

Do Quasar Ley Lines Really Exist Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, Vol. 201, P. 179, 1982

Once Hidden by Forest, Carvings in Land Attest to Amazon’s Lost World

Visible Only From Above, Mystifying 'Nazca Lines' Discovered in Mideast


Aerial Photographic Archive for Archaeology in the Middle East

The Lost History of Man

Newgrange & Pyramids: Fantastic revelations

Geomantic Information Systems; Exploring Axis Mundi, the Earth Grid, the Holy Grail and Ley Lines

ANCIENT TRIANGULATION

Ley Lines... Are they real? A possible link between the Giza Pyramids, the V-bar-V petroglyphs, Monks Mound, Snake Mound, Newark earthworks, the sunken Pyramid of Japan, the Tucume Pyramids, and Harappa

The Top Ten Geoglyphs - UK & The World

Thanks.

Respectfully,
/SRGB/
 

HUGE

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Gmt your myth is known as " the fully automatic model of the universe". Its just a theory no more valid than any other. Get over trying to conveet the world to your religion.
 

siftedunity

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without thought there is no such thing as time...lol

in reality there is nothing but this present moment experience

you seem to only be able to understand things from a human point of view. you don't understand that your just using the human language to put limitations on science.

time would happen whether we humans are here or not. it wouldn't have the name ''time''(or any name at all) but it would still be something which is there.


what did you think happened in evolution of the earth when there was no animals which had conscious thought (or a brain even?) do you think time didn't pass because
''without thought there is no such thing as time...''
 

GMT

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Huge, You flame me in open forum, then when I ignore you, you flame me in pm. You want a reaction, and you have one. You insult and then insult again. How many ways do you see this going?
Your opinion does not count. Reality does not have a mind with which to care what your views are. Gravity cares not if you jump off the cliff edge or don't, nor does it care if you believe in it. There will be no angels to care if you believe in them or not to catch you as you fall. The ground doesn't care what your thoughts are as your brain passes through your arse upon impact. I do not care what your views of me are either. Getting the picture?
 

Crusader Rabbit

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without thought there is no such thing as time...lol

in reality there is nothing but this present moment experience

What if nature held it's own clocks that had been ticking along for millenniums and all we had to do is figure out how to read them? Discovery of radioactive decay allowed us to read those clocks within the rocks. So all that time in which the uranium-lead clocks were ticking, never actually existed?
 

southflorida

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you seem to only be able to understand things from a human point of view. you don't understand that your just using the human language to put limitations on science.

time would happen whether we humans are here or not. it wouldn't have the name ''time''(or any name at all) but it would still be something which is there.


what did you think happened in evolution of the earth when there was no animals which had conscious thought (or a brain even?) do you think time didn't pass because
''without thought there is no such thing as time...''

there has never been anything except NOW, all time, without exception, is an illusion, a concept created by the mind for the mind.
 

HUGE

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Huge, You flame me in open forum, then when I ignore you, you flame me in pm. You want a reaction, and you have one. You insult and then insult again. How many ways do you see this going?
Your opinion does not count. Reality does not have a mind with which to care what your views are. Gravity cares not if you jump off the cliff edge or don't, nor does it care if you believe in it. There will be no angels to care if you believe in them or not to catch you as you fall. The ground doesn't care what your thoughts are as your brain passes through your arse upon impact. I do not care what your views of me are either. Getting the picture?

Again more insulting nonsense. You keep pounding your chest about something but I'm still unclear as to what. You come in here and preach your religion tuen throw a fit when anyone ddoesn't believe you. I'm suprised survivak of the fittest hasn't cought up with you yet.
 

siftedunity

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there has never been anything except NOW, all time, without exception, is an illusion, a concept created by the mind for the mind.


you are beyond rational reasoning so your knowledge will always be extremely limited.

you just throw out these ridiculous statements which have absolutely no meaning. you obviously have a fixation on human awareness.. what you fail to grasp is that time/space goes on with or without humans:)
 
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