Massive BHO run

[Shcrews]

I a large amount of trim, shake, and popcorn. most of it is very good material.

The material is left over from 2012 outdoor season and The person who i am working with wants it all processed before this seasons crop comes in (about a month). We are talking hundreds of lbs of dried material.


The way i usually handle large runs is with 4ft long, 1.5" wide tubes, multiple tubes being blown at once by different ppl into the same dish, then heat and whip/purge it by hand, batch by batch. Using this method can go through 20+ lbs of trim per full day of work with 4 ppl.

I am hoping maybe some of you wonderful ICmag people who have experience with this type of operation can share some insight into how you process, and especially how you purge. The Final prouct must be BHO.

Let me know if anyone has questions

Thanks guys!!

 

[vapor]

whip is not purge......

 

[Shcrews]

Thanks! What i meant is that we usually make a whipped budder type product. The oldschool method i.e. by hand. We have not yet invested in a vacuum oven, and i am not sure if we will get one for this project simply because i'm not sure yet if it would speed up the whole process or not.

 

[Dynamite]

Old material likes to do what they call "decarboxylate" , I had material do that to me that was only 8months old .. it will not make a proper wax or shatter , just stays a runny sappy type of consistency

maybe do a small test run with a P of the stuff before you invest cash banking on the fact the material in question is going to make a quality product

 

[Shcrews]

Thanks! We have done test runs, ( idk why but my spellcheck changed that to "teat rubs"). I have been making bho on the commercial level for years, just never had so much material to process in so little time... so i came here looking for tips

 

[fatigues]

Thanks! What i meant is that we usually make a whipped budder type product. The oldschool method i.e. by hand. We have not yet invested in a vacuum oven, and i am not sure if we will get one for this project simply because i'm not sure yet if it would speed up the whole process or not.

That's a LOT of material. Without a vacuum for purging/recapture, you are just blowing planning to blow through cases and cases (and cases) of butane? Or are you getting some sort of large stand-up cannister of it? (Assuming that product delivery is even available -- I don't know that it is.)

For cost reasons alone, you should be purging and recapturing your butane in a closed loop. Worse, with that sort of poundage of material, the amount of butane you are about to have to use is a signal flare: "BHO production HERE".

Being safe and being economical, in this case, seems to be the same thing.

 

[RegisPhilburn1]

You should really look into a large closed loop system (MKV or ETS LHBES), but for that amount and the time you have, it probably wont happen. Personally after my first few trash bags of butane cans i just couldn't do that to the environment anymore... The amount you have calls for like 10+ master cases, which is getting harder to come by unless you go to the distributers.

Like dynamite said it will not make a very good wax or shatter if it is that old. it will likely be dark and sappy being a year old.

With that much material, investment into a vac oven (probably 2 of the 1.9 CUft) should be a no brainer.

 

[Shcrews]

We buy boxes of power 5 for a good price thru a friend. No worries about safety. My partner is rich and he pays for all the butane so no worries there either.

As for a closed loop system it is a good idea foe the future but we dont have time to build or find one for this project. also it will need be capable of fully processing 10lbs of material per day, and product must be budder or shatter.
I havent done enough research on closed-loop systems to know if that is feasible.

Thanks !

 

[m314]

Like dynamite said it will not make a very good wax or shatter if it is that old. Look for a large edible company that wants activated oil by the pound, because it will likely be dark and sappy being a year old.

Is there a big difference in quality between sap and wax or shatter? I'm not that experienced yet, but the batch of sap I made from 2 month old trim seems good for vaping. It's just a little harder to work with.

 

[FatherEarth]

If it was stored in a freezer since last year it will make wax and shatter just fine. I just finished last years trim and it made nice examples of both. Although it was stored in 5 mil mylar bags in the deep freezer for nearly the entire time... Yea a buddy of mine has similar amounts of trim every year. We used to just go through master cases one can at a time til it was done. A couple weeks 400lbs of trim and smalls. Now we are terpin it up with MKIII's and hes got MKV's ordered. I cant imagine going back to holding cans and blasting tubes again, no way. Quality work vibes to you, hope you git it done like you want. Look into a closed loop system and you will be making BHO for pennies a gram and not wasting a few hundred lbs of butane. And its also much safer. Remember to wear all cotton when your blasting tubes especially your socks.


Respect,

FE

 

[Gray Wolf]

I a large amount of trim, shake, and popcorn. most of it is very good material.

The material is left over from 2012 outdoor season and The person who i am working with wants it all processed before this seasons crop comes in (about a month). We are talking hundreds of lbs of dried material.


The way i usually handle large runs is with 4ft long, 1.5" wide tubes, multiple tubes being blown at once by different ppl into the same dish, then heat and whip/purge it by hand, batch by batch. Using this method can go through 20+ lbs of trim per full day of work with 4 ppl.

I am hoping maybe some of you wonderful ICmag people who have experience with this type of operation can share some insight into how you process, and especially how you purge. The Final prouct must be BHO.

Let me know if anyone has questions

Thanks guys!!

Consider building a recirculating butane system for that much material.

A Mk I or II Terpenator will process 2 pounds in about an hour and a Mk V is designed to hold 5 pounds, cycle time to be determined, but estimated to be around an hour.

The smaller Mk III will process 150 grams an hour into shatter or 600 grams an hour into partially decarboxylated oil for oral or topical application.

Kits are available for the Mk III, and if you Google recycling butane recycling systems, you will find a number of competitive designs available for sale turn key.

There is even a thread on the BHOgart system in this forum.

 

[Shcrews]

Grey wolf thanks, i love your work!

I dont want to build a recirc system, i am much better at growing than building things, and i have enough work to do already.

Where can i buy one pre-assembled reliable unit? Any recommendations? The BHOgart looks nice. High volume production is key.


Also is there any way to combine a vacuum oven purge with a recirculating butane system? People seem to prefer the vacuum-oven purged "shatter" these days.

 

[Gray Wolf]

What kind of volume do you need to run?

We do final vacuum purges in our vacuum oven, or even in the Terpenator itself, using a Polycarbonate lid.

 

[lolweeds]

I had a curious thought , about my next BHO run. I gotta ditch a good 20-40 near full sizers soon, any value in just grinding them out ( pre-flower ) and waxing it?

 

[Gray Wolf]

I had a curious thought , about my next BHO run. I gotta ditch a good 20-40 near full sizers soon, any value in just grinding them out ( pre-flower ) and waxing it?

If they don't have trichomes, you are wasting your time.

 

[lolweeds]

If they don't have trichomes, you are wasting your time.

then happily to a new home they will go .. it's better this way