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hush

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1) I haven't yet harvested my first hempy bucket ever since learning about the method, so I don't know. But I have no reason to believe that they haven't. This is just a plant in a container, so roots would fill up all the available volume of the container if you leave the plant long enough.

2) If you water the medium slowly enough, it doesn't go directly to the bottom, no. But if you dump water in all in the same spot, then yes, I think it does. I've settled on using 1/4" tubing as my preferred method of irrigating, because the flow is nice and slow. I aim the nozzle right at the stem. This saturates things slowly before eventually filling the reservoir below. Once it starts trickling out of the overflow hole (or, just right before it overflows... you get good at timing it after a while!), I cut the water off. I only let it seriously overflow once a week. This helps to refresh things, and it flushes excess salts out of the container. Some people overflow it with every watering, but I didn't want to be too wasteful with my drain to waste setup.

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hush

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Thanks man! :wave:

So here we are on day 21:

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hush

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Yeah I'm not gonna bother with that this time around. Or I probably would have done it a long time ago. This is just for cheap fun. :tiphat:

Thanks! :)
 

hush

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I appreciate the thought. I do! But yeah, I'm just gonna let then hang free, and after this grow I'll probably swap out to a small HPS in a mini cool tube.
 

bovice

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I appreciate the thought. I do! But yeah, I'm just gonna let then hang free, and after this grow I'll probably swap out to a small HPS in a mini cool tube.

I understand friend, just trying to be helpful. :biggrin:

What size HPS bulb are you thinking of sticking in there?

no hood = less heat = no problem

eh?

I could see how not having a hood (or atlest one like what I posted) would help with convection in his space, but I think it would depend on his ventilation setup. W/O a hood though I would hazard that hes loosing about half of his light.
 

hush

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I am, I'm totally losing half of the light. But it's okay, since this is specifically meant to be a "less is more" kind of grow. It is true that I would be dealing with more heat right at the canopy level if I used a hood over these bulbs. I originally planned on upgrading to 42w bulbs from the 23w ones, once flowering was initiated. That would have "compensated" for the loss of half of the light, in a way. But I ended up wanting to see what the 23w bulbs could do, so I never upgraded. But yeah, in this setup, I would be better off doubling the wattage of the bulbs than I would be by adding a reflector to these bulbs.

I appreciate the thoughts, comments, criticisms, anything anyone wishes to throw my way. I know you were being helpful, so really it's cool. I always figure comments like that will help out someone else who might be reading this thread looking for ideas and advice. Just because something is working for me a certain way doesn't mean someone else might not need other suggestions. My primary goal here is just to have fun and experiment with some ways of demonstrating cannabis's limits. I'm also hoping to show someone that, while they are planning out their badass super grow cabinets or grow rooms, they can totally put something together for nothing that will at least get them started, while they work on their "for real" grows.

I've got my 4x4 and 2x2 tents working for me for my actual stash. This and my micro vert are just for fun, and a little extra joint-rolling material. I'm also thinking about using the entire harvest of my micro vert to make hash and hash oil. I've never been able to do that before, because I was always relying on a single garden to supply my medicine for me. Now, I have 2 "extra" gardens that are completely unnecessary in terms of supplying medicine, so I get to do fun things with those.

Seriously, though, everyone is welcome to leave their 2 cents here. As long as no one is a dick head, they are welcome here. :)
 

hush

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What size HPS bulb are you thinking of sticking in there?

Oh yeah, forgot to answer this... Almost certainly a 150w. I have a mini cool tube that really only fits 150w bulbs. Going up to a 250w, the bulbs are like 4 inches longer. Plus, it will help me to justify the continued existence of this experimental space, if I continue to use as low a wattage as possible in it.
 

fatigues

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Plants are looking great! Very nice. Can't tell by the lighting if they are a little too dark on the green side, but otherwise, looking super-duper. :plant grow:
 

hush

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No, good observation, they are totally too dark green. I've even alternated a few of the most recent waterings with just water, no food. It's not to the point of toxicity or anything like that, but they are definitely too dark green. I've never grown under such an extremely low wattage of light before, and the photosynthesis is much slower than I'm used to.

That should clear up soon. Good observation, fatigues!
 
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hush

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Here and there. But only when the leaf simply cannot be tucked down anywhere. In that case, then yes, I pluck a leaf when it is blocking a budsite.
 

fatigues

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No, good observation, they are totally too dark green. I've even alternated a few of the most recent waterings with just water, no food. It's not to the point of toxicity or anything like that, but they are definitely too dark green. I've never grown under such an extremely low wattage of light before, and the photosynthesis is much slower than I'm used to.

That should clear up soon. Good observation, fatigues!

I agree that there appears to be no toxicity as such, (like I said, the plants look pretty good) but that is going to be some throat coughing, lung hacking, black ash burning weed if you don't get rid of it before harvest.

Don't think you want to skip feeding on the other nutes as the plants otherwise look good, you just want to ease off on the nitrogen.

Change up your food maybe? Low N, regular flowering PK nutes? If you use a micro food supplement in some manner, be careful of that as there tends to be a lot of nitrogen squirreled away in many of those nutrient regimens so you can end up starving nitrogen on one side as you continue to feed it on the other.
 

hush

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Nah, this is just a for fun grow. I don't need to be changing out nutrient formulas or anything like that. I strictly use flora nutes on my large gardens, and don't particularly want to buy anything specifically for this little novelty garden. That's all very good advice, though, so thank you! If anyone is reading this journal and is growing a low-wattage micro garden, I recommend taking fatigues' advice here. :good:

But like I said, in this particular scenario, it's not worth it to me. I'm actually just looking to see how easy it is to harvest a few grams by doing virtually nothing and buying no new supplies. I'm not worried about smoking the end result, because I will flush the plant with lots of water in the last few days, like I always do. It'll be alright. One thing I hope to achieve out of this grow is to show some of the noobs out there who are reading this that they can totally grow bud with little-to-no expense (time or monetary). So, let's say I end up harvesting about 12 to 14 grams out of this grow... What I'm hoping is someone will see that and think, "Dang, hush got a half ounce without even trying! I wonder what would happen if I copied his setup but used better nutes, better bulbs, and put reflective material on the walls?"

So I'm trying to show what happens with the absolute minimum amount of care and equipment.

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I'll gift the end result to my mother in law, since she barely smokes, and that way I won't have to offer her any of my killer harvest from the 1000w garden.
 

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