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therevverend

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In the PNW mold is on an entirely different level than other places. This is a rain forest most of the year. There's a small window June-September to grow but it is small. This year it closed early. I'm looking at four straight days of rain temperatures below 60 degrees F.
Any mature colas I don't harvest today will be latticed with mold in two days. One day my seed bud looked fine the next day it was so moldy it was a total loss. The seeds were rotten along with the bud.
It's hard when you have a bunch of plants a week or two from finishing. I know I will lose some to mold but I'd rather have one ounce of primo instead of a pound of premature. Seed stock has to be mature. I very well could be picking viable seed out of the mold in a week if the seed doesn't mold.
I also have to be careful to completely dry seeds before I store them. Last year I was in a hurry and didn't completely dry some of my seed stock. Put it in the fridge and forgot about it. Couple weeks later it stank and was covered in grey mold. Total loss.
 
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Rude, BigSteve? What's that? You'll have to try harder...:biggrin:

Anyways, I know my growing environment isn't ideal nor can I get me one. Direct sunlight might not be nearly enough, call it 6-8 hrs which in other grow cases worked absolutely fine and I was able to pull off grows right to the end with outstanding results.
As for the soil, I make my own following a rough analogy 3-3-3 mixing perlite/goat manure/peat(not enriched) and sometimes a bit of my garden soil. Last time I had it lab tested, it was more than ok, only Borium was a bit excessive and a little low on Calcium.
Pathogen existence can't be ruled out though...

Now the pics below are of the rootball and base stem, but again it's the best shooting I can provide...
Feel free to criticize, got a tough skin:tiphat:

P.S. Failed to mention that going to my hideout passing through various fields is inevitable so I might have been carrying "stuff"...
 

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therevverend

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I'm curious about how your plants got seeded? Hermies? Males? On purpose or accidental? We all work with what we have. In my spot I have too much shade in the afternoon. I'd have to cut down several huge trees. I managed to gain a couple extra hours of light in the morning this year by removing a smaller nuisance tree. But cover has it's uses.
Almost every morning I make my rounds with my pruners trimming out grey mold. A minibud here a minibud there, sometimes a main cola needs a trim. While I can dwell on what might have been I am still in for a nice reward in a week or two.
I got a nice haul from my stem rot plant all things considered. I checked it in my dry closet yesterday had to trim up a couple stems that were turning grey. Can't remember a plant that had horrible mold on the stems but the buds were left mostly alone. I can live with that.
 
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Seems you're moving ahead relatively well--all things considered-- and you're gonna end up stevedoring your ship just fine, that's my objective too.

I'm just as curious about this seeding business. Haven't had much experience with hermies though so I'm at a loss what to say. Got three plants in three different spots, none got heavily seeded, my Kali's bearing only a few, I have traced only five seeds in that bush of 8ft. no males around. Been visiting/inspecting my plants daily using a x10 lupe but never spotted any sign of male flowers. Ain't saying there weren't any, just didn't see any...

For sun exposure I choose my spots with a southern azimuth since the autumn sun travels at low altitudes and , yes, pruning side trees is a must, but then again cover/security is a major issue. Wish I could fell the shaders alright but then the spot would be crying out loud "plants here!"...

Autumnal equinox has come along with matching rains, not as heavy though as in PNW yet intensity isn't the issue but humidity is!
So I'll start shaking Kali as a minimum mold prevention. Of course there's always the possibility of a splendid October, which sometimes is the case in my neck of woods.
Nevertheless, if I can harvest half of her intact she will endow me with at least half a pound that will get me through alright till next time...
 
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Just been back from my daily inspection that resulted in spotting three airy buds containing something looking like an oblong calyx(banana shape?) without a pistil that makes me suss out a pollen sack. I clipped them off ...
I suppose this must associate to my having already found a seed or two. (?) What do I do now? Do I keep meticulously inspecting and plucking the nanners or leave them?
There's a moderate resin production, fluffy airy buds, and half the pistils have already gone brown.
I'll try to upload some pics tomorrow...
 

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I'd clip the nanners. You might end up with quite a few tiny green immature seeds. No fun picking those out of your smoke. I am wary of growing hermie seeds. Don't want to pass that trait on to the next generation.
Your nanners may be a stress response or it may be genetic. The disease problems and shade may have stressed the plants just enough to create nanners. Or it's genetic. Either way I'd toss the seeds.
I'm always looking for signs of plants going hermies. I've had too many problems over the years. I look for pistils that change color early. If I find a patch of them I get down on my hands and knees. Start crawling around the plant looking up underneath it. Almost always I'll find two or three little patches of nanners. Most times I just hack the plant. If there's only a couple plants or it's late in the grow I'll clip them and hope 20 more don't sprout.
 

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It's been less than 65 degrees F for three days now. I have 3 very sick plants. The rest of my garden is frosting up on schedule. It is starting to look and smell incredible. The rain is going to clear out over the next couple days. The resilience of cannabis impresses me. Despite the worst summer I can remember they are mostly thriving.
My squash has been devastated by powdery mildew. My tomato plants are on their last gasp although there's lots of green ones ripening. Still have a lot of chili peppers turning red every day.
The good thing about all the rain is an early mushroom season. I need to go to the hills to find chantrelles.
 
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So here we are with the sister of the deceased one. Similar characteristics but different structure, reason probably being the topping she undergone when young and a lot of LST due to height restriction in the "tent".
Checked again this morning, nanners here and there, almost everywhere well-hidden in the otherwise fluffy airy buds. As for resin production I wouldn't call it proliferous which is the case with branching, apparently...

Rain's gone, spotless skies again and consoling comforting sun on his chariot benevolently grinning at my Kali.
Mushrooms, yes, will soon start popping out, some delicious edible ones along with divine muscaria for occasional mitotes with a bunch of mates...
My veggie plot resembles yours a lot, but we do manage to supply our dinner table with enough Cherokee purples or Brandywines...
PM, hey? I thought sulphur or soda mixes would do the job alright...
 

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therevverend

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The rain just keeps coming. Breaking records for wettest September ever. Storm that normally hits mid Oct-March is slamming us right now. 45 mile per hr gusts, torrential downpours. Worst storm of the year and it's in one of our best months for weather.
Plants are holding up alright. So wet they're bent over so they almost touch the ground. A few broken branches from the wind. Still a week away from finishing. Should storm for three more days then nice weather. It amazes me watching them crystalling up and finishing in a nasty storm.
Lost a few main colas to rot. It's frustrating when you harvest it hang it to dry only to lose it a day later. Still should get 75% of my yield which is alright. Considering it's the wettest September ever.
They're so potent even premature they're satisfying smoke. A mild frontal lobe headache if you smoke a lot because it's not cured yet and early. Another week will take care of that problem.
I've taken a hit to my seed stock. Where I should of gotten 50 seeds from a limb I got 5 because I had to take it down because of mold. I'll manage.
Despite the hammered condition of the plants the wind does dry them out. Pounding rain and cold temps they were still bone dry this morning after a couple hours of wind and no rain.
Getting my exercise moving the ones in pots in and out of my overnight shelter. Gotta watch close because that mold can spread and destroy in a couple hours.
Local fruit stand has cheap wild mushrooms on sale which is my tip to head to the woods. My summer garden is destroyed very few tomatoes most are knocked over. Still lots of little red peppers. Time to plant my winter greens. Spinach and such.
 

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This morning I noticed stem mold on another plant. A Teheran Bubblegum that is one of the most amazing smelling plants ever. It is skunky and bubblegummy absolutely awesome. It almost seems like an autoflower I started it in mid July and it's almost done. If it wasn't a small yielder I'd grow a bunch of them. Might grow a bunch of them anyway after I try the smoke. Start 'em early and harvest in August.
Anyway why does it have stem mold and not bud mold? The buds have been sopping wet for the last two weeks and the mold appears on the stem. I've noticed it a lot this year. I guess I should be happy it's not on my buds but it seems strange. Anyone know why?
 

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weird stuff you're telling, mate!
Are you sure it's the same fungus?
Happy you should be, why for me, mold got the better of my Kali and all I could do was cull her despite her not having reached full maturity.
However, a fresh bud I toked gave me a very clear, euphoric high.
 

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I think the stem rot is the same grey mold that attacks buds. We both have found how much more destructive it can be. Rot a bud lose a bud. Rot the stem the whole plant can die.
Thieves ripped off the tops of several of my plants. Makes me think it's someone I know because they took just the tops. Hate being ripped off and having to suspect my neighbors and friends.
With the medical legal grey area being busted is not a problem so security is far more slack. In the past no one knew I grew. Now way too many people know. For me any is too many.
Can't get too worked up over it because I still get most of the harvest. Don't like the idea of my hard work rewarding a lazy sneak thief. That is what angers me. They made a mistake. Left footprints in the mud. Makes it easy to exonerate or nail the perpetrator.
It is annoying because the weather has improved the weak moldy plants have been harvested. Could of let stuff go a couple more weeks but it forces me to harvest the majority of my plants.
 

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Oh, them rippers!
I've had both plants and a few tonnes of fire wood nicked from the woods.
I used to feel stinky outraged despite knowing who the culprits were and could fix the cases but never did. Didn't want to make a fuss, especially about them plants. Small place, big talk, social status tainted, that sort of thing led me to adopting Jesus' last words : "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do!"

As for secretion, sometimes even I don't want to know where my plants are!

RH has been almost 100% for the last few days but I worry no shit about it since my late lady is covered and marching head up to the end. New moon in less than two weeks and tomahawk being sharpened anew for the felling...
 

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Is that what you mean?
 

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