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Syria, chem weapons, assad or al qaida?

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Crusader Rabbit

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That isn't even a real paper you half-wit lol no f-22 was shot down over syria.

Anybody actually read the story lol.

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LOL I guess this is truly my day for overreach.

The Oklahoma Post is not imaginary. It was very active in 1906. Can't find anything after that though. And the beforeitsnews article was translated from the original Arabic. Guess I'm the sucker on this one.

Layers of deception.

Should have listened to W Dannyboy

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7f4_1377959586

A U.S. F-22 Raptor jet crashed above the sky of northern Jordan.



According to the Oklahoman newspaper Post, citing U.S. military sources that the F-22 Raptor crashed in the north of Jordan, sources tell about the possibility of shoot down the F-22 Raptor aircraft by a Syrian missile Syrian everything and happened near the Syrian border, while a military expert John Blu Reed told the newspaper that the shoot down of the F-22 Raptor confirmation that Syria has a defense system updated the S-300, S 400 missiles or rockets, l 'U.S. expert also stated that U.S. relations - Russia will be even more strained if it is confirmed that Russia has provided to Syria missiles S 400.On the other hand according to reports from the United States, according to the Los Angeles Times of America, the Syrian defense forces have shot down four missiles launched by the Americans type Tomahawk, sources tell us that it was the defense systems (Bentsr 1) anti-aircraft missiles that have made that American missiles struck, and centered in the middle, the sources of Washington state that four missiles were launched to test the degree of defense of the Syrian forces, the sources have also confirmed that one of the main reasons in stopping aggression against Syria is the overthrow of the American F-22 Raptor crashed yesterday in the north of Jordan, also also deal with the part of the Syrian air defense missiles to the four Tomahok, daa remember that Jordan is still home to its territory five F-22, and this was one of the main reasons to postpone the trial of aggression against Syria.

Other sources:
http://www.southlebanon.org/?p=87063

http://nrttv.com/nrt-ar/dreje.aspx?jimare=20333


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Real or Not who cares... 11 Russian Warships are enough to get the Job Done...

Can you go please go disprove the shit about Israel...

Tell us what you know about the Natural Gas Pipeline Qatar is Drooling over ... Anything to do with Syria?
 

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-army-vehicle-enters-syria-supports-al-nusra-rebels/5335907


Israeli Army Vehicle Enters Syria, Israel Supports Al Nusra Rebels

According to the Syrian Military Command, an Israeli Armed unit entered Syria. An Israeli army vehicle which crossed the cease-fire line towards the village of Bir Ajam inside Syria was destroyed by Syrian forces:
“On Tuesday at 1:10 am (2100 GMT Monday), our armed forces destroyed an Israeli vehicle with everything it was carrying, which came from the occupied territories,”
“General Command of the Army and the Armed Forces said that our armed forces destroyed an Israeli vehicle entered from the occupied territories and crossed the cease-fire line towards the village of Bir Ajam.”
“The vehicle passed the ceasefire line and was moving towards the village of Bir-Ajam situated in the liberated Syrian zone”
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The report also states that the actions of the Israeli armed forces were in support and in coordination with terrorist groups in Bir Ajam
”The village is located in the liberated area of Syrian territories where there are armed terrorist groups, ”
“Following that, the Israeli enemy fired two rockets from the occupied site of Tal al-Faras toward one of our sites in al-Zubaydiah village; no casualties reported, ” the statement said.
It added that the aggression aims at raising the terrorist groups’ collapsed moral due to the painful blows they received at the hands of our armed forces in more than one place, especially in al-Qsier area.
The General Command of the Army and the Armed Forces said that the blatant aggression confirms again the involvement of the Zionist entity in the ongoing events in Syria and the direct coordination with the armed terrorist gangs.
The statement stressed that any breach or an attempt to violate the state sovereignty will be responded.
It stressed that whoever thinks that he is able to test our strength, alert and readiness to maintain our dignity and sovereignty is mistaken.
On Tuesday, May 21, Israel’s Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon confirmed the incident, without acknowledging that an Israeli Army unit had crossed the cease-fire line into Syria.
“Last night we destroyed a Syrian army position which fired on an Israeli patrol.”
According to Israeli military spokesman Avichai Adraee, the Syrian army “fired on an Israeli patrol, which we confirmed six hours ago, but did not destroy a vehicle or kill anyone,”
An earlier Israeli statement said “it had responded to fire from inside Syria that hit a military patrol in the Golan Heights overnight, damaging a military vehicle.”
Israeli Support to Al Nusra
In February 2013, Israel announced that it was considering “creating a buffer zone reaching within 10 miles inside Syria”, allegedly to “protect itself from fundamentalist rebels on the other side of the border.”
The plan drafted by the military was submitted to Prime Minister Netanyahu. The stated objective reported in the London Times (February 4, 2013) borders on ridicule:​
“In recent months jihadist groups such as the Nusra Front, which Washington regards as a terrorist organisation linked to al-Qaeda, are reported to have infiltrated several border villages. Two of the villages, Breika and Bir Ajam, are less than a mile from the Israeli border.
“The proposal, which has been drawn up by the military and presented to Binyamin Netanyahu, the prime minister, is intended to secure the 47-mile border against a growing Islamist threat if President Bashar al-Assad’s embattled regime loses control of the area. (emphasis added)​
What Israeli officials are intimating is that unless president Bashar Al Assad secures the area against the terrorists, the jihadist rebels constitute a potential threat to the State of Israel: an utterly absurd proposition.
In a twisted logic, Tel Aviv claims that the US sponsored “opposition” jihadist forces which are threatening the government of Bashar Al Assad also threaten the security of Israel.
While Al Nusra is on the State Department list of terrorist organizations, it is directly supported by the US and its allies, including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and Israel.
The proposed “buffer zone” constitutes a pretext to channel Israeli support to the terrorists in liaison with Washington.
Israel is in close liaison with rebel commanders in Southern Syria, implying frequent incursions into Syria. In this regard, a report by Debka, the Israeli intelligence news agency (May 8, 2013) confirms that wounded Al Nusra rebel fighters are being provided medical care in an Israeli hospital facility in the Golan Heights:​
Israel has set up a large field hospital near the Tel Hazakah observation and military post on Golan which overlooks southern Syria and northern Jordan. There, incoming Syrian war wounded [Al Nusra rebels] are vetted and examined by Israeli army medics who decide whether to patch them up and send them back, or judge them badly hurt enough for hospital care.​
The report also acknowledges that the rescue of wounded Al Nusra fighters requires the incursion of unmarked “Israeli army vehicles” into Syrian territory:
Unidentified Syria military sources vowed to attack the Israeli army vehicles crossing the line to evacuate wounded rebels in need of medical care. Our military sources say that if Israeli army vehicles, presumably unmarked, are indeed entering Syria to pick up injured rebels,they are most likely alerted by local liaison agents in the battle zones who guide them to the spots were the injured men are waiting.(Debka, op cit)
The above Israeli intelligence news report points to “local liaison in the battlefield”, between the IDF and rebel mercenary forces. This liaison and cooperation with Al Nusra also includes the incursion of Israeli covert special forces inside Syria as well as the inflow of weapons and supplies.
Al Nusra: Trained by the Pentagon
Al Nusra is largely made up of mercenaries recruited in Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Covert (Western) special forces and military advisers have also integrated their ranks.
The Al Qaeda affiliated terrorists directly funded by Washington constitute the foot-soldiers of the Western military alliance including Israel.
Confirmed by CNN, the Al Nusra terrorists have also been trained in the use of chemical weapons by special forces on contract to the Pentagon:
The training [in chemical weapons], which is taking place in Jordan and Turkey, involves how to monitor and secure stockpiles and handle weapons sites and materials, according to the sources. Some of the contractors are on the ground in Syria working with the rebels to monitor some of the sites, according to one of the officials.
The nationality of the trainers was not disclosed, though the officials cautioned against assuming all are American. (CNN, December 09, 2012, emphasis added
 

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Zionist Criminals Obama And Feinstein Support Guns For Al-Qaeda And Endless Wars For Israel But Want Americans Disarmed

U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein not surprisingly is calling for more gun control measures following yesterday’s alleged mass shooting incident at Washington’s Navy Yard. Once again we see Feinstein attempting to exploit a highly publicized media driven event for political gain. Even though it is a bit early to determine exactly what may or may not have happened, gun control will not eliminate murders or rampage killings. The vast majority of these mass shootings have involved mentally unstable individuals usually under the influence of an anti-depressant drug. It looks like this recent incident is no exception based off of the information that has been revealed so far. These events usually take place in locations where guns are heavily restricted making them prime targets for the criminally insane. If Feinstein had any sort of credibility she would be investigating what these types of drugs are doing to the human mind and empowering people to have the means to defend themselves. She is of course doing nothing of the sort.
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What makes Feinstein and people of her ilk so hypocritical is the fact that she maintains this stance on gun control while at the same time supporting endless wars of aggression in the Middle East. Just recently Feinstein supported the Obama regime’s threats to launch military strikes against Syria. She has also been in favor of the American military interventions that have taken place in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.
On the Washington Navy Yard issue Feinstein said, “We must do more to stop this endless loss of life.”
If she really wants to put a stop to the loss of life than why is she supporting the never ending American led invasions that have killed an untold number of people? Apparently Feinstein believes it is morally correct to use bombs, missiles, guns, drones and other weapons to kill people so long as it supports the interests of Israel and the principles of Zionism. In her mind it is morally justified if millions of people lose their life in the name of these political interests. On the other hand she wants to impose restrictions on the average American man or woman who simply wants a firearm for self-defense. Could it be any clearer that this woman is mentally ill? This is not the point of view one would see expressed from a sane person.
Jay Carney the chief propagandist for the Obama regime recently came out making a broad statement proclaiming that they are drafting executive orders to implement more gun control measures. This happens the very same day that Obama decides to waive a provision in federal law to prevent supplying firearms to terrorist organizations. Apparently these days the President is above the law and can just waive or ignore whatever laws they don’t like. If Obama can do this than it is time for average Americans from all walks of life to start ignoring laws that they find annoying or inconvenient. After all, there are plenty of laws that have been implemented by the government that are nothing more than dishonest forms of revenue collection.
The waiver was required so Obama can now openly provide firearms to Al-Qaeda linked terrorists in Syria. Without the waiver Obama would be in violation of the law which once again shows how transparently criminal the Obama regime is. Obama is perfectly fine with providing Al-Qaeda firearms but at the same time seeks to impose greater gun restrictions on Americans.
Could Obama and the people that surround him be any more hypocritical? Here we have Obama openly arming a group of Syrian rebels that are either connected or directly involved with a terrorist organization that was said to have attacked America on September 11th, 2001. This is insane criminality happening out in the open and there is nobody in the American media or in the federal government that has the guts to call them out on it. This makes the Fast and Furious gun running look tame in comparison and all we hear is silence from members of Congress.
It should be obvious that people like Obama and Feinstein are primarily concerned with what benefits Israel and are doing everything they can to destroy America through these and many other ridiculous policies. These people and their collaborators are traitors and should immediately be arrested and put on trial for high crimes and treason. Sadly none of this will happen because Congress has been filled with criminal enablers, useful idiots and cowards for many years now.
 

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-supports-al-qaeda-operatives-in-syria/5334381

Israel Supports Al Qaeda Operatives in Syria

This is the third attack recently. Now nobody can say Israel stands aside. The conflict in Syria spills over the national borders to encompass other international actors.
Israeli aviation hit a target in the North-West of Damascus. 300 are killed and wounded as a result; dozens of military warehouses are destroyed. Overall 43 military targets are struck, including the headquarters of 43 the army division, underground bunkers storing Scud missiles, the positions of 104th and 105th brigades (where Iranian advisors were located), and a military research facility. 18 aircraft are reported to take part in the operation. Magnitude 5.4-strong earthquake shook the area after the most powerful explosion.
The fact that Israel sides with the forces of terror appears to be something out of ordinary. It’s a long time since Israel started to use terrorist methods against Palestinians, but there have been no reports on their cooperation with Al Qaeda as yet… Israel is second to none fighting terrorists; nobody can match its HUMINT capabilities.
And now, they strike from flanks in support of militants terrorizing Syria’s population. What goal is pursued? Eliminating Syrian Scud missiles with chemical (sarin gas) warheads, capable to strike Israeli territory? But Syria had no intention to attack the neighboring state being itself plunged into the quagmire of terrorists-led insurgency.
So what is behind the Israeli aggression? Israel understands Damascus will abstain from retaliation as long as it can. It’s not the right time for combat beyond the national borders. It realizes it and strikes without mercy. It even ignores the fact that Carla Ponte, a leading member of the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, said says there are «strong concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof that Syrian rebels have used the nerve agent sarin».
Israel is on the way of taking the axe of war and there are quite different reasons for that.
The following reports are noteworthy: the Pentagon has come up with a number of action plans to intervene into the Syrian conflict…Obama says he has no intention to take a military action while there is no evidence that Syria uses chemical weapons, but still he has issued a «serious warning» to Syrian leadership.
So, what are the options offered by the Pentagon?
1. Expansion of arms supplies to the rebels.
But they get arms from different sources and it has not turned the tide of war. True, the United States may start deliveries of up-to-date anti-tank, portable air defense and communication systems to change the situation as time goes by.
2. Surgical strikes
High-precision air strikes may send a message with a warning against the use of weapons of mass destruction by Syrian government. Sea-based cruise missiles launched outside the territorial waters could be used for the purpose.
3.Air war.
According to the Pentagon, Syria doesn’t have a cutting edge air defense, predominantly it possesses obsolete Soviet systems, like SA-22, SA-26. The close range Panzir-S-1 is a modern one, but none of these weapons pose a challenge for NATO. According to expert Sean O’Connor, Syria cannot counter contemporary high-precision strike weapons and electronic warfare systems. Still, an intervention should be preceded by strikes against the country’s air defenses. NATO aircraft can enter the country’s air space only after radars, launching pads and communications are out of function.
4. No-fly zone
According to the Pentagon, the Turkey based Patriot air defense systems could be used for the purpose.
5. Air borne operation to secure critical infrastructure objects.
As one can see, the Pentagon has foreseen everything except the talks between the belligerents. Washington and the allies are reluctant to see any kind of negotiation process. They have their own reasons: the Assad government has proved its survivability, it will gain from armistice. The «dogs of war» are not interested in any seize-fire. They get money for killing people. If a lull takes place, some of them will move to where they’ll be paid for committing daily terrorist acts, places like Yemen, Pakistan and Afghanistan.
All the scenarios have one goal – to pour fuel into the fire. US State Department deputy spokesperson Patrick Ventrell has said that Washington is intent on boosting non-military aid to Syrian opposition. He stresses, it’s non-military. As to him, the US sent the first medical and food aid package directly to the Syrian Supreme Military Council. The aid is to be expanded and diversified; the talks are on the way to make precise priority items. All these facts make clearer the motives behind Israel’s hostility. It wants to have it over and done with the Assad’s regime. Air strikes are to provoke tensions and push Washington to taking a final decision. The international forces will be drawn into the fray.
The Syrian armed forces gradually push the terrorists away, no matter the terror forces are backed up by an anti-Syrian international conspiracy. They get everything they need in any quantity: arms, money, and manpower. Thousands of people perish in the terrorists-sparked fire. It’s high time the activities against the Syrian people are to be qualified as genocide. The death toll is over 70 thousand; no end of the slaughter is in sight. But the United Nations and other international organizations are not in a rush to put an end to ongoing genocide. The reason is simple: the Syrian government cannot be blamed for the slaughter, it didn’t start it, and it doesn’t provide aid to the terrorist gangs penetrating the country’s territory from neighboring states.
Raising the issue of genocide means asking a question: who is behind it. That’s when confusion starts. International bodies have no guts to state it straight that Turkey shoulders the burden of providing the Free Syrian Army with all it needs and fuels the fire by doing so. Saudi Arabia and Qatar pay for arms supplies destined to the rebels, so they are behind the genocide, being responsible for the deaths of dozens of thousand people. No guts because Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are linked to the US foreign policy pursuing the overthrow of Bashar Assad. That’s what is behind the strange maneuvers of the West, which is not able to make the Syrian opposition sit at the round table and stop bloodshed.
In reality, the United States and NATO encourage the genocide of Syrian people; it will become even more obvious in future.
 

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http://truthstreammedia.com/saudis-israel-lobbying-u-s-for-attack-on-syria/

Saudis, Israel Lobbying U.S. for Attack on Syria

America to serve as mercenary army in attack on Syria funded by Middle Eastern client states?

The two strongest voices pushing for war with Syria come from two nations that typically prefer to remain in the shadows – Saudi Arabia, who’ve recently negotiated openly with John Kerry to bankroll the proposed bombing campaign, and Israel, via AIPAC, who have launched a high-pressure lobbying campaign to gain support from Congress.
The American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), self-proclaimed to be one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington, is descending on Capitol Hill to make a hard push to authorize strikes on Syria – with future action against Iran in view, even as Congress is poised to vote no on Obama’s authorization for Syrian strikes. According to Politico:
Officials say that some 250 Jewish leaders and AIPAC activists will storm the halls on Capitol Hill beginning next week to persuade lawmakers that Congress must adopt the resolution or risk emboldening Iran’s efforts to build a nuclear weapon.

They are expected to lobby virtually every member of Congress, arguing that “barbarism” by the Assad regime cannot be tolerated, and that failing to act would “send a message” to Tehran that the U.S. won’t stand up to hostile countries’ efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction, according to a source with the group.

The lobbying effort is so great that it led one White House official to make a comment that would later be cut from the New York Times: “One administration official, who, like others, declined to be identified discussing White House strategy, called AIPAC ‘the 800-pound gorilla in the room,’ and said its allies in Congress had to be saying, ‘If the White House is not capable of enforcing this red line’ against the catastrophic use of chemical weapons, ‘we’re in trouble.’
Meanwhile, over the weekend, the White House announced that it had “won the backing of Saudi Arabia for a strike while still laboring to persuade a deeply reluctant Congress.” Support from Qatar and other Arab players was also confirmed in benignly worded reports like CNN’s Kerry: Saudi Arabia OK with international military strike on Syria.
But that diplomatically toned statement underplayed reports that show the Saudis have been leading the charge. According to Secretary of State John Kerry, Saudi Arabia has outright offered to pay for the strikes, even agreeing to fund a full-scale invasion. So who who stands to benefit from that?

‘With respect to Arab countries offering to bear costs and to assist, the answer is profoundly yes,’ Kerry said. ‘They have. That offer is on the table.’
Asked what the specific figures were, Secretary of State John Kerry replied: “We don’t know what action we [will be] engaged in right now but they have been quite significant. I mean, very significant.” [emphasis added]
“In fact, some of them have said that if the U.S. is prepared to go do the whole thing, the way we’ve done it previously in other places, they’ll carry that cost. That’s how dedicated they are to this,” Kerry stated.
Over the weekend, Sec. Kerry met with members of the Arab League Peace Initiative in Paris, including Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al Faisal and looked quite chummy and downright ecstatic over agreements to support the attack on Syria. Do these photos reveal genuine concern over the deaths of civilians by a chemical attack or the grin of big business churning its wheels? Again, who stands to gain from this bombing? What justice would it possibly serve?

You guys are about to bomb Syria, what’s so funny? Sec. John Kerry meets with Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al Faisal. (Used under fair use for critique and analysis.. 17 USC § 107)


Historian Webster Griffin Tarpley has further asserted that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are attempting to bribe U.S. officials into agreeing to action against Syria.
Tarpley told Press TV that “The Saudis and the Qataris are reported to be deploying huge amounts of money for bribery, bribery to the families and political and business interests of these members of Congress.”
“Hillary Clinton has received 500,000 dollars in jewelry from the king of Saudi Arabia and Hillary Clinton just came out for war,” according to Tarpley.
Saudi Arabia and Qatar have officially had a vested interest in the Syrian “civil war” since 2012 when the Arab states announced their funding for the Syrian rebel army.
More recently, Prince Bandar, head of Saudi intelligence, reportedly confronted Putin with a bare proposal to receive oil in return for dropping its support for Syria, while simultaneously making implicit threats to unleash Chechen terrorists on Russia’s 2014 Winter Olympics. Bandar further acknowledged his country’s control over the Chechen terrorists already operating to destabilize the Assad regime inside Syria.
For their part, the AIPAC lobby is in the process of persuading Congress to support Syrian military action, using their purported weight in campaigns and elections as leverage. Author M.J. Rosenberg, a former writer for AIPAC’s newsletter and later critic of the organization’s influence, outlined the modus operandi for their lobbying effort, arguing that the group’s reputation for making or breaking campaigns for election/reelection make their influence on Syria difficult for many in Washington to ignore:
AIPAC and its cutouts are the only lobbying forces supporting the administration’s plans for war and Congress will make the decision. It should be a good moment for AIPAC to make its case. Members of Congress are now in intense fund raising mode for the 2014 primaries and general election. When AIPAC visits in the next week or two, it will make the case for war with that looming overhead.
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And that is why AIPAC should win. If it doesn’t and if the Members of Congress who voted “no” are re-elected anyway, then the #1 tool AIPAC has going for it will be broken. That is the belief that it is invincible because of the campaign donations its directs both to those who support it and to defeat those who don’t.


In the final analysis, it becomes alarmingly clear that U.S. leaders are NOT acting on behalf of the interests of the American people, nor are they acting out of “humanitarian” concerns for civilians killed by dictators. Instead, there is ample evidence of sworn U.S. officials partnering with foreign entities who stand to gain significant leverage in the region by taking out Syria.
President Obama has urged to Congress to vote in favor of bombing Syria (and opening the door to a larger military action) despite clearly recognizing the voice of the American people to reject this action. Melissa Melton reported for the Daily Sheeple on Obama’s startling comments:
Obama is telling our Congress — the people duly elected by the citizens of the United States to represent them in their government — to vote for bombing Syria even if the American people are overwhelmingly against any military action whatsoever in Syria.

“One of your closest allies in the House said yesterday, when you’ve got 97% of your Constituents saying no it’s kind of hard saying yes,” ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl told President Obama, asking bluntly, “Why should members of Congress go against the will of their constituents and support your decision on this?”
Obama responded:
“Each member of Congress is going to have to decide if [they] think it’s the right thing to do for America’s national security and the world’s national security. Ultimately, you listen to your constituents, but you’ve got to make some decisions about what you believe is right for America.”

With the potential to spark a wider war via Iran, Russia or other players, Americans have ever reason to reject military action in Syria. There are no good guys, and even creating a net balance for the U.S. role in world power seems nebulous at best. It appears that this once great nation has fallen under the yoke of foreign influence. It’s military might little more than a mercenary army for hire.
Our officials are telling the American public it must brace for another war, and muster support for Western-backed al Qaeda groups working as Syrian rebels, all while the economy and jobs at home continue to undermine our freedom and security. It’s not too late to call Congress and insist that the United States look after its own interests rather than submit to counterproductive entanglements with no clear objectives and little, if anything, to benefit U.S. involvement. Foreign lobbyists must not come before Constitutional limits, moral imperatives and the will of the American people, no matter how much money is dangled in front of bought off leaders.
 

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Anybody who says Assad is a bad guys is an uneducated Moron who shouldn't comment on Middle Eastern Politics ...

Wait till the U.N General Assembly .. Putin is bringing all the proof that the Nutt job Sunni USA/Israel backed Rebels used the Sarin....

Syria has found paperwork from over 28 different nationals of Jihadist in their country...

American population by far is the most uneducated as a whole compared to the rest of the world... I guess it doesn't help when your country is dominated by a Zionist Agenda..

Funny a guy who speaks Spanish and Hebrew is going to tell me I don't understand Simple Farsi... And I guess everyone else must be lying because Israel is so honest... please don't make me yack all over myself

How easy the sheep forget
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...-white-phosphorus-during-operation-cast-lead/

Israel’s Illegal Use of White Phosphorus During ‘Operation Cast Lead’
And How the U.S. Media Tries to Cover Up Israeli War Crimes

You cannot justify the Crimes Israel commits and all the turmoil they cause in order to get big brother to clean up their mess...

Israel shits in her pants when she sees 11 Warships in her backyard... Russians aren't playing games... Israel makes the wrong move and Putin will wipe that Parasitic regime off the map

chump!!!

have you forgotten how Syrians (& other middle easterners) march into war??????? Here's some pics to remind you.

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Middle Eastern Soliders aka Taliban whooped the shit outta the US Military just the Vietnamese did in Vietnam and the Koreans did in Korea War...

USA Sucks at fighting because US soliders are pussies homie.. they wanna go home and play x-box..watch porn..and go home to fuck a fat hefer...aka zero culture...

They got nothing on real people in the rest of the world...just a bunch a fucken tools for Israel
 

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US Attacking Syria to Ensure Israel is Natural Gas Export Leader

A study released from IHS Economics (IHSE) stated that the petrol and natural gas boom is saving consumers thousands of dollars.
Because of natural gas, Americans are pocketing $1,200 annually in lower energy prices.
Estimations project savings to increase to $2,700 by 2020 and $3,500 by 2025.
State and federal monies saved will be an additional $283 billion which can be added to the gross domestic product (GDP).
It is envisioned that this boom will create 319,000 new jobs with the number of newly employed reaching 3.9 million by 2025.
California is sitting above the Monterey shale . This state could use its own natural gas reserves, rather than import oil from Bakken and Saudi Arabia.
Halliburton, who is associated with fracking and drilling services, could become the giant of the hydraulic fracturing industry.
Exxon Mobil is investing in Eagle Ford, the Marcellus and Bakken to support fracking.
Last June the Cypriot government signed a deal with Noble Energy, a US – based corporation with ties to the Israeli government, to build a $10 billion natural gas terminal to tap into the reserves in the eastern Mediterranean seabed.
This endeavor is advantageous to the Israeli government because it provides direct access to Europe, Southeast Asia and other natural gas consumers through Cyprus.
Earlier this year Cyprus was economically – terrorized by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the European Central Bank (ECB) wherein customer accounts had large portions of their balances syphoned out to pay back debts governmental to the technocrats.
Michalis Sarris, finance minister of Cyprus has travelled to Russia to speak with Igor Shuvalov, Russian finance minister have been in talks of Russian financial intervention in exchange for Cypriot resources; such as the natural gas reserves just offshore.
This plan was ultimately not accepted by Russia which left Cyprus open to being taken advantage of.
In August, Israel signed an agreement with Cyprus and Greece wherein all three nations would pool-together their natural gas reserves for a mutual benefit profit scheme to service global market needs.
Last year Greece was also the victim of economic – terrorism after the country defaulted on loans which caused a financial crisis.
With vast untapped natural gas reserves, Greece asked the Russian Federation for help. Greek Prime Minster Antonis Samarus wrote a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin to appeal to him for assistance.
The Greek government paid the highest prices in natural gas imported from the European Union (EU); as well as the 3rd highest taxes.
Utilizing their natural gas reserves would lower the cost of energy for the nation while allowing them to export and profit from sales to other nations.
However, Greece ended up in the same situation as Cyprus which culminated in the agreement with Israel over the fate of their energy resources.
In Israel, the Leviathan Field may prove to be a “game changer” which would propel the country to become the 3rd largest provider of natural gas in the Middle East.
Noble Energy and Avner Oil Exploration is involved in the development of this vast reserve which is 130 kilometers from the Israeli coast and 5,000 feet under the Mediterranean sea.
The Leviathan Field is estimated at being worth over $7 billion.
Congress has recognized that this reserve “could represent 200 years’ worth of Israel’s natural gas consumption”; as well as the potential financial benefit of assisting Israel in becoming the leader in natural gas export.
Since 2005, Egypt was supplying Israel with natural gas; however this agreement ended recently which left Israel in an energy crisis.
Eastern Mediterranean Gas Co “sold 1.7 billion cubic meters of natural gas at a rate of $1.50 per million British thermal units, (BTUs)” which proved to be a financial downfall for Egypt.
Because they were underpaid for their product, Mohamed Shoeb, the head of the Egyptian Natural Gas Holding Company (ENGC) stated that they would no longer “ship natural gas to Israel because of contractual obligations violations.”
After the Saudi Arabian government aligned with the US government for military assistance because of an invasion from Sunni “radicals”, the deal with Egypt and Israel for natural gas began to fail.
The Arab Spring in Egypt proved to be difficult for Israel with regard to natural gas exports. Installed president Mohammad Morsi’s eventual removal will be “good for Israel and for anyone who relies on Israel in the Middle East.”
On the Sinai Peninsula, a natural gas pipeline that transported the resource from Egypt to Israel was partially destroyed which disrupted “the flow of gas”.
Because of a 1979 peace treaty with Israel, Egypt is forced to sell the natural gas to Israel for $2.5 billion. This price comes from an export deal signed in 2005 which extracts an estimated 40% of Egyptian natural gas which is sent straight to Israel.
In 2011, governments of Iraq, Iran and Syria signed a $10 billion accord to build a natural gas pipeline that would fuel income to the Middle Eastern nations.
Syria is expected to purchase “20 million to 25 million cubic meters a day of Iranian gas” daily.
The pipeline “length is more than 1,500 kilometers and will run from Assalouyeh to Damascus while passing through Iraq”, then Tehran, Lebanon and out to the Mediterranean Sea; eventually becoming a servicer to Europe, Southeast Asia and other nations.
Because Saudi Arabia would also be negatively affected by this pipeline, they have invested $3 billion into financially supporting the Free Syrian Army (FSA) who are terrorizing the Syrian citizens and trying to over-throw Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan has been making the rounds from Moscow to Paris and hoping to gain support against Syria.
Secret contracts have been offered by Bandar to Putin and French President Francois Hollande to strategically gain major governmental accord to bring Syrian President Bashar al-Assad down from power and crush the furtherance of the pipeline.
Before the creation of the Iraq, Iranian and Syrian pipeline, “Qatar proposed a gas pipeline from the Gulf to Turkey in a sign the emirate is considering a further expansion of exports from the world’s biggest gasfield after it finishes an ambitious program to more than double its capacity to produce liquefied natural gas (LNG).”
Part of the scheme, according to Turkey, is to strategically move the Nabucco pipeline project to “transport Central Asian and Middle Eastern gas to Europe, bypassing Russia.”
In this way, Qatar and Turkey would join efforts and share in the spoils.
Europe would rely on Qatar for natural gas instead of Russia.
However, Assad rejected the pipeline prosed by Qatar in favor for the deal with Iraq and Iran.
The Saudi Arabian government has been funding Chechen terrorist factions; including the elder brother involved in the Boston Bombing – Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
According to Russian intelligence provided by the Anti-Extremism Center, a faction of the Ministry of the Interior of Russia, Tamerlan had spent half a year in southern Russia, and then disappeared off their radar. At this point US federal agencies are claiming that they began their assessment of Tamerlan’s radicalization and training with militants in Chechnya.
The theme is being built that there is an Islamic insurgency in Chechnya, a republic of Russia. Social networking is being used by these alleged militants to communication and reaches out to others to become part of their jihad.
The point missed by most of the mainstream and alternative media is the history of US and Saudi financed terrorist cells in Chechnya. Facilitated by the CIA, the radicalization of Wahhabist groups to terrorize Russia have been a scheme kept silent in US media.
US Special Forces, intelligence operatives and money flowing from Saudi Arabia have combined to attempt to secure an outpost in Chechnya that would send a clear message to the Russian government.
The Wahhabist faction supported by the US is not actually adherents of Islam, but a fake, pasty terrorist army created as a tool for US foreign policy interests.
Born of the relationship between Saudi Arabia and the US government, Wahhabism (a.k.a. Salafism) is used because of their inherent “radical” movement toward “progressive social change” which makes them will to take extreme measures to fight against secularism.
Currently, the proxy war being fought in Syria is multifaceted with regard to purpose.
The US and UK governments are funding the FSA; while the Saudi Arabian government is arming the opposition.
During US Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens time in Libya, he was responsible for making sure there was safe passage for the weapons being shipped to Syria intended for the FSA.
This was just one of his missions while dealing with the National Transitional Council (NTC).
Sarin gas was used in Aleppo to murder Syrian civilians; including women and children. This chemical weapon was also sent through the pathway set up by Stevens.
When it was of no consequence to the Obama administration, Jay Carney, press secretary for the Obama administration, admitted in a media conference that the use of chemical weapons was perpetrated by the “opposition” and not the Syrian government.
Now that the US military has been requested to protect Israeli interests in the Middle East, Assad is being accused of using chemical weapons on his own people.
In the end, this war with Syria is about ensuring that Israel becomes the leader in natural gas export.
 

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Zionists Panic as Assad Move Outsmarts them on Chemical Weapons

Political observers are unanimous that the Zionist Supremacist-controlled U.S. Government and their Jewish-lobby puppet masters have been wrong-footed on the international stage by the Syrian government’s offer to give up its chemical weapons–because it highlights the fact that Israel has these weapons as well.

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The realization of this truth has forced the Zionists to break out in panic. Even the pro-Jewish Times of Israel has blurted out in a new article that “Israel [is] worried it may be forced to join chemical weapons ban.”

According to that Jewish newspaper, the “deal to strip Assad of his chemical weapons stockpile has some policymakers in Jerusalem concerned that Israel may be forced to sign an international chemical weapons ban treaty, something it has been unwilling to do until now.”

Israel has always refused to ratify the Chemical Weapons Convention on the basis that “there is no significance to being part of an agreement like this while a neighboring country like Syria possesses a vast stockpile of chemical weapons,” the Times of Israel reported.

Neither Syria nor Egypt signed the CWC, and both have active chemical weapons programs.

Israel is now “concerned” that the deal to destroy Syria’s chemical stockpile “may force Israel to ratify the treaty.”

As a party to the CWC, Israel would be forced to permit international inspectors access to the Dimona nuclear reactor and the Nes Ziona Biological Institute–the two centers of the Jewish supremacist weapons of mass destruction.

According to a CIA document published in Foreign Policy magazine, US spy satellites in 1982 uncovered “a probable CW (chemical weapons) nerve agent production facility and a storage facility… at the Dimona Sensitive Storage Area in the Negev Desert.”

The Syrian government has, thought a judicious use of the international diplomatic chain, turned what was an excuse for an attack on that nation, into a highly embarrassing political debacle for Israel.

At the same time, Syria has set the stage for the final destruction of the “rebel” terrorists–and that is also something that the Zionist lobby wanted to avoid at all costs.
 

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Russia’s Putin shines at Valdai summit as he castigates Zio-Controlled West

Commentary by Dr. David DukeThe following article is by Bridget Kendall, diplomatic correspondent, BBC New. It shows the incredible distinction between the Russian leader Putin and the Zionist lapdogs in America and Europe. First it shows Putin to be far more open and transparent than the duplicity of Zio-influenced leaders, and how he is actually far more democratic. As the article points out in this showcase meeting, Putin allowed hardcore political opposition to question and cross-examine him for hours! One cannot even imagine Obama or any other leader doing that. They all only allow a well-scripted interview session with zio-approved journalists.
Next, Putin talks honestly about Syria with no bravado, no sense of omnipotence as Obama and Cameron and other leaders exhibit. He also maintains that the gas attack in Damascus was certainly a provocation by the insurgents, and not the work of the Syrian government.
Furthermore, Putin dares to talk about the death of Europe, pointing out that if they are not changed, genocidally-low European birthrates will cause the destruction of the European people, as such would cause the genocide of any people.
He points out that if the European birthrates are not increased and Europe continues to be faced with massive non-European immigration, these things that will totally destroy Europe’s its own heritage, ideals, values and achievements. No other leader would say such a thing, and of course, the ziomedia’s chronic message is that the destruction of the European people is actually a good thing!
Putin even speaks about the media’s support for homosexuality and other kinds of sexual degeneracy, pointing out that Russia does not believe in harming homosexuals in any way, but believes that promotion of that lifestyle is not healthy for his people or any people, and that such lifestyles also contribute to the lower birthrate in European nations, and the fact that it leads to much harm in society. He also points out that sexual degeneracy also mitigates against the family, healthy and happy children and again the birthrate of Europeans.
Putin got a good laugh when said:
He even returned to the subject to make a joke of what he perceived as Western Europe’s distorted attitude to gender issues. Recalling his friendship with former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, he noted that Mr Berlusconi was now on trial for living with women.
“But if he’d been living with men, as a homosexual, no-one would have dared lay a finger on him,” Mr Putin said.
Whether one agrees with Putin or not, everyone must agree that Putin is refreshing in his willingness to speak of issues that other national leaders will not.Dr. David Duke
The annual meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club of Russian specialists with President Vladimir Putin is usually held behind closed doors. This year, to mark the 10th anniversary, it was a show specially tailored for television.
Centre stage was Mr Putin, flanked by slightly awkward looking dignitaries from Germany, France, Italy and the United States.
Facing them was a crowd of foreign guests, plus several rows of Russians, including an Orthodox priest in flowing robes, two white-turbaned Russian Muslim spiritual leaders, and a rumbustious handful of Russian opposition leaders – most of whom got a chance to put a question to Mr Putin.
The president likes marathon sessions and this was no exception: three hours of questions back and forth with a packed auditorium, all broadcast live on Russia’s rolling TV news channel. It was a very public occasion, but nonetheless revealing.
On getting rid of Syria’s chemical weapons, President Putin was surprisingly cautious. “Will we manage to convince Assad? I don’t know,” he mused aloud.
“Will we be able to see everything through? I cannot be 100% sure.”
And he shied away from any assumption that it was Moscow’s clout with Damascus that would count most, arguing that ensuring Syria’s compliance was the joint responsibility of the entire UN Security Council.
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Valdai 2013 was specially tailored for TV
Other senior Russian officials had earlier gone out of their way to insist that Moscow’s influence with the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad was limited.
“We have 100 times less influence in Damascus than the United States has in Israel,” said one senior official. He added that Moscow’s close ally had been Mr Assad’s father, President Hafez Assad, and that it was not until his son fell out with allies in Europe and the Muslim world that he had sought better relations with and increased support from Moscow.
Underscoring that this is a collaborative enterprise, Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu confirmed that Russia was ready to send specialists to take part in the joint efforts to secure and destroy Syria’s chemical weapons.
Mr Shoigu also revealed that Russia had ships on standby and all possible evacuation routes and schedules in place, just in case the remaining 7,000 Russians in Syria needed to leave in a hurry.
Mr Putin was also modest when it came to US President Barack Obama, denying he had helped him to save face by giving him a way out of pursuing military strikes on Syria.
Simply, Mr Putin said, their two positions had converged after an analysis of the situation.
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And he brushed off scathing criticism of his government by Senator John McCain in an article published on a Russian website. Pravda. Instead of retorting in kind, he said mildly that the senator seemed to suffer from a lack of information about Russia.
He also described, with some pride, how he came to write the article which appeared under his name in the New York Times, aimed at influencing American public opinion.
It was, he said, his own work and on his own initiative. He had dictated it word-for-word to an aide, made his own corrections, and even added the final paragraph by hand, once he had read (and taken exception to) the reference to American “exceptionalism” in President Obama’s address to the nation.
Europeans ‘dying out’
But other comments from the Russian president revealed that the gap between himself and Western leaders was as wide as ever.
He repeated his assertion that Russia had every reason to believe it was rebels, not the Syrian regime, who were behind the chemical attack that injured and killed so many on 21 August.
Once again he suggested it could have been a crafty “provocation”, involving the use of ancient Soviet missiles long decommissioned by the Syrian army, but used deliberately in order to implicate Mr Assad’s forces.
And in an opening speech devoted to Russian values, he castigated the West for losing touch with its Christian roots when it came to gender questions.
Mr Putin said that “one-gender families” and exaggerated political correctness were leading countries into degradation and a deepening moral crisis.
One Austrian professor challenged him on this and asked for a guarantee that minority values would be respected in Russia and not subject to harassment.
Mr Putin denied there were any laws in Russia to punish sexual minorities for their orientation. The Russian law which had caused so much controversy was, he said, simply to stop “propaganda” among minors.
But the Russian leader did not try to hide his disdain for sexual minorities. Europeans, he continued, were suffering from a falling birth rate and could be in danger of dying out if they did not do something about it.
“You can either have more children to increase your population,” said Mr Putin in typical blunt fashion, “or have more migrants, but you don’t like them either. It’s your choice.”
He even returned to the subject to make a joke of what he perceived as Western Europe’s distorted attitude to gender issues. Recalling his friendship with former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, he noted that Mr Berlusconi was now on trial for living with women.
“But if he’d been living with men, as a homosexual, no-one would have dared lay a finger on him,” Mr Putin said.
The Russians in the auditorium erupted into roars of laughter. On the panel next to a grinning Mr Putin, his European guests looked bemused and uncomfortable.
The Russian leader did not look in the least bit put out at this clash of cultural sensitivities. Possibly he even did it deliberately.
It serves his purpose, reinforcing his earlier argument that Russia’s place in the world is unique, with its own norms and values, and any attempt to force it to conform to other people’s view of what is right and proper would be resisted.
 

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Guess you guys forgot... NO POLITICS. As you can see it leads to name calling, expressions of hatred and other unpleasantries not associated with growing cannabis. Not to mention the wholesale fabrications of half-truths, semi-truths, rumours and downright misinformation being spread around like a thick layer of manure.

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