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Machappy

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Here's something I've been working on. DNA'S OG#18 X ACE'S PANAMA. I'm calling her pog. I think I'm going to cross her to a blueberry male for a blog. Let me know what you all think.
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de145

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On my Panama the leaves are *very* distinctive: if you look at a sun leaf and imagine it's a hand the two "fingers" on either side of the central one each curve their tips away from the center one.

It's completely normal until about the last fifth of the leaf at which point they curve away to the outside.

I see this in the moms, in cuttings, and in the mature plant so it's not a maturity things.

Kind of like a fleur de lis: https://www.google.com/search?q=fleur+de+lis&tbm=isch

Anyone else see this with theirs?
 

SeedsOfFreedom

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Here's something I've been working on. DNA'S OG#18 X ACE'S PANAMA. I'm calling her pog. I think I'm going to cross her to a blueberry male for a blog. Let me know what you all think. View Image

OG18 x Panama sounds incredible! I was going to make the same cross myself. Yours looks awesome, you even got the Panama's pink hairs!I am sure the Panama will help the size and vigor of the OG18,and OG will bring some special tastes to the Panama. I love both those strains, good luck!
 

LowFalutin

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Harvested five Panama DC (deep chunk, also an indica.CBG) this time last year,
and got some interesting smells- rosemary, for one (from the Panama?).
I'm vaping my quickest finishing (78 days). Deeply powerful and kinda trippy.

I bet you're going to get something reeeal tastified and unique with the more complex contribution of the OG.

mmmmm :)
 

de145

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and got some interesting smells- rosemary, for one (from the Panama?).

I had a strongly rosemary smelling pheno of Jordan of the Islands "The Purp" strain. Everyone loved the smell and taste but unfortunately it was a little on the "meh" side for effect so I ditched it, but I definitely loved the taste of it, very unique and people had a hell of a time guessing what the taste was until you told them. "It's so familiar but I can't put my finger on it" kind of thing. :)
 

The Hatter

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Any tips on cloning Panama? It looks like the two clones I took aren't going to take. I think it might be because its been rather cold and dry which the Panama probably hates more than my other strains but I'm not certain if that really is the cause or not. It's my first time running her.
 

de145

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Any tips on cloning Panama? It looks like the two clones I took aren't going to take. I think it might be because its been rather cold and dry which the Panama probably hates more than my other strains but I'm not certain if that really is the cause or not. It's my first time running her.

I have almost a dozen strains of very wide variety and my Panama mom is the fastest to root of all of them.

I experimented with cloning for years until I reached the system I have now.

I do the bonsai mom thing so I have very tiny clones, only an inch or two high.

I use 22mm 'jiffy 7' peat pots, jello pudding cups (dirt cheap from the grocery store) and clear plastic boxes of salad containers (also from the grocery store). The peat pots fit perfectly in the transparent pudding cups so you can see them root (doesn't affect rooting at all when they are clear), the clear salad container lets in light and you can see into it easily to inspect for roots etc. The salad container is big enough to hold 6 or 8 cuttings / pudding cups depending on size and tall enough to not have leaves touching the top which is bad for them.

First I drop the peat disks in the pudding cups, then pour in half full of 22c water and let them expand, then I kind of squeeze them a bit to wring out excess water, but I do leave them pretty wet still. I use a chopstick to make a hole for the clone to stick into, not all the way down but most of the way deep.

I take the cutting, cut it on an angle just under the last node I want to keep so part of the node is cut, flip it around and scrape down a short 'bite' to the pith on the back side opposite the cut for good measure, dip in cloning gel, insert the clone into the peat pot. Squish down the pot at the top and squeeze it inwards so the cutting isn't loose in the hole but squeezed tight all around.

I put them in the pudding cups, put the cups in the salad container, mist them well with plain water, seal it up and put under 24 hour light. Every day I take off the lid, fan them with the lid a bit to get rid of some moisture, then reseal and breath in some c02 into the container before finally sealing it.

I usually get roots in 10 days in high temps, 15 in low temps. It's super rare for a clone to fail to root in this system, maybe one in 30 or 40.

I've found the key thing is proper moisture control, too wet and they just sit there forever, too dry and they die pretty quickly, but they do have to be fairly dry so the peat pots in a pudding cup in a sealed container seem to be perfect.

If you had cold dry conditions that would account for it, they need constant moisture both in the stem and in the air for the leaves. Cold just delays rooting for me but too dry or too wet will prevent it entirely.

With the method I use you end up with a peat pot with a crazy amount of roots shooting out of it and all you need to do is fill a pot to the top with moistened soil, use your fingers to make a peat pot sized hole and drop it in and firm around it and done, no stress to the roots.
 

The Hatter

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Thanks for the tips. I actually use a similiar set up except I use rock wool cubes rather than peat blocks, but I think the crucial difference is that I have mine in a fish tank with a lid that is far from air tight so the humidity can crash in their and the temps have been in the lows 60s F.

I might try to take one last cutting from the plant I have in flower. The very first pistols are starting to show but I don't think she is so far in that the cut won't reveg. I will take a larger cutting this time as the branches I used were under two inches the first time and I will build a little humidity dome from a plastic salad lid since that sounds perfect. My cloning techniques could definitely use some refinement as out of about every ten cuts I take I usually have 2 that don't take. This time the two just happened to be from the same plant. I normally do two of each plant I have in flower so I have a back up. Nothing is worse than finding some Godly plant in flower and losing her forever due to having no clones. I lost my first Nep Jam that way and she was a true beauty.
 
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k-s-p

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I have mine in a fish tank with a lid that is far from air tight so the humidity can crash in their and the temps have been in the lows 60s F.

I used a similar set up, a 15 gallon with a slide in screen top. Cut some acrylic to fit and duct taped it on, does a good job sealing the tank. A heat mat makes a big difference.

Panama always rooted pretty easily for me too. Good luck!
 

GET MO

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Panama x Goo
used a red n green light for some uh the shots...

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I wish the camera could show how wet and sparkly this bud is wit resin...
 

The Hatter

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Cool photos of some nice looking plants. I like the dramatic lighting. On a happy side note one of my Panama cuts has rooted. It just took it forever due to the crappy conditions I had it in. A grabbed a heating mat and sealed the lid better. I'm surprised it came back considering how shriveled and old a cut it was by the time I fixed the conditions it was in.
 
Thanks for the tips. I actually use a similiar set up except I use rock wool cubes rather than peat blocks, but I think the crucial difference is that I have mine in a fish tank with a lid that is far from air tight so the humidity can crash in their and the temps have been in the lows 60s F.

I might try to take one last cutting from the plant I have in flower. The very first pistols are starting to show but I don't think she is so far in that the cut won't reveg. I will take a larger cutting this time as the branches I used were under two inches the first time and I will build a little humidity dome from a plastic salad lid since that sounds perfect. My cloning techniques could definitely use some refinement as out of about every ten cuts I take I usually have 2 that don't take. This time the two just happened to be from the same plant. I normally do two of each plant I have in flower so I have a back up. Nothing is worse than finding some Godly plant in flower and losing her forever due to having no clones. I lost my first Nep Jam that way and she was a true beauty.
Hi mate. Try some glad wrap or sandwich wrap over the fish tank. Cheap and easy and works well
 

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