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White Rhino Growlog [Maxibloom + Pro-tekt]

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Conformist

Hey y'all,

This is my first grow and I'm running some White Rhino from Nirvana.

I'll be sharing my grow logs and posting pictures regularly.
Enjoy.

Setup

Lumatek 400w ballast - MH/HPS
Can Fan 6" HO 440 cfm
Insulated Ducting
Magni Wing Reflector
Air King 6" Fan
6" Mountain Air filter
DR90 3x3 tent

Soil

25% Perlite
75% Promix

Bottled Products

Maxibloom
Dyna-Grow Pro-tekt
PH Down
Einstein Oil

Strain

4x Nirvana - White Rhino

Description

White Rhino is a powerful F1 hybrid of White Widow and a curiously strong Canadian indica strain.
Its father contains more indica-genes than White Widow, its mother, making for denser, somewhat shorter plants.

Because of its high THC content, White Rhino would be very suitable for medicinal applications.
The taste of this smoke is hashy and slightly harsh, making it work well in a bong. The buzz is stoney and comes on hard.

Yield: 400 - 500 grams/m² (SoG)
Effect: High and Stoney
Grow height: Medium
Flowering Indoor: 9 / 11 weeks
 
C

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I had a pretty rough start, my reflector was at 12inch from the pots which caused heat stress and i ended up with this strange looking lady.

WR#1 Day 5


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IMO this one is my best looking seedling of them all

WR# 2 Day 5

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I don't have much to say about this one, it's alive alright.

WR#3 Day 4
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Grow Logs

9/8/2013 - Planted 4 WR seeds in a 25% perlite, 75% pro-mix 1 gal pot soaked with 7.0PH water
9/9/2013 - None showed up yet, still moist
9/10/2013 - None showed up yet, still moist
9/11/2013 - WR#1 & WR#2 showed up, still moist
9/12/2013 - WR#3 showed up. WR#1's leaf is discolored, one is green the other is mostly yellow with a green tip, still moist


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C

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]My plants have been recovering and growing a lot since i placed my reflector 2 feet above the pots.

I plan to start feeding WR#1, WR#2, WR#3 in about a week.
Unfortunately, WR#4 is a week behind the others so i won't be feeding it anytime soon.

WR#1 Day 9


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WR#2 Day 9

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WR#3 Day 8

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WR#4 Day 2

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Grow Logs

9/13/2013 - Gave them 0.5 L of water each, WR#4 still hasn't showed up.
9/14/2013 - Replaced WR#4 with a new seed, still moist
9/15/2013 - WR#4 hasn't popped open yet, still moist
9/16/2013 - WR#4 hasn't popped open yet, still moist
9/17/2013 - WR#4 popped open, gave WR#1 and WR#3 0.25L of water
9/18/2013 - Gave WR#4 0.25L of water
9/19/2013 - Gave WR#2 0.25L of water


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fatigues

Active member
Veteran
Yeah, seedlings perform much better under some very modest fluorescent lighting. Keep domes on them to increase humidity on those little babies and keep your HID light off of those for the first 3-4 weeks. You can easily bleach out the leaves with that much light and otherwise dry out the seedling in almost no time. Go to sleep, wake up -- and you can find them toasted beyond repair. You are fortunate not to have killed them already.

You are best keeping your HID off of them for now. A lame ass 30w daylight 6500k CFL or a 2' T5 lamp (a foot above) or a single 24w to 55w Pl-L light will serve you FAR better. Even a 55w Pl-L or 42 w CFL can overwhelm those seedlings and do some damage if the lamps are too close to them.

When they are ready to leave the seedling stage and go to veg, then you can harden the plants for a few days to greater wattage and then fully unleash the 400w on them.
 
C

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Yeah, seedlings perform much better under some very modest fluorescent lighting. Keep domes on them to increase humidity on those little babies and keep your HID light off of those for the first 3-4 weeks. You can easily bleach out the leaves with that much light and otherwise dry out the seedling in almost no time. Go to sleep, wake up -- and you can find them toasted beyond repair. You are fortunate not to have killed them already.

I will, next time but for now, i think they're gonna be alright.

I mean they're no longer stunt and the leaf are recovering ever since i placed my 400w 2-2.5 feet above the pots.

That's gotta be a good sign, right?
 

fatigues

Active member
Veteran
I will, next time but for now, i think they're gonna be alright.

I mean they're no longer stunt and the leaf are recovering ever since i placed my 400w 2-2.5 feet above the pots.

That's gotta be a good sign, right?

Probably, yes. Add some domes for now though. Some slurpee or frappacino lids can be made to work as a small seedling dome without much trouble.
 
C

Conformist

Believe it or not, a lot has changed in the last 6 days.
My seedling have grown into beautiful vegetative plants and all of them recovered from heat stress.

I fed them for the first time yesterday and they're loving it.
Their stem is much thicker already and they've grown by 2 inches overnight!

I've also studied photography a bit and have gotten much better at taking pictures.

See for yourselves. ;)

WR#1 Day 15 - Her cotyledon finally died. It doesn't seem to be affecting her at all tho.

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WR#2 Day 15

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WR#3 Day 14

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WR#4 Day 9

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Grow Logs

9/20/2013 - Gave WR#1 and WR#3 0.5L of water
9/21/2013 - Gave WR#2 0.5L and WR#4 .25L of water
9/22/2013 - still moist
9/23/2013 - still moist

// Veg Stage

9/24/2013 - Fed WR#1, WR#2, WR#3 0.5L of water with 3.5g of Maxibloom & 1ml of Silicate 6.3PH. Gave WR#4 0.35L of water
9/25/2013 - still moist
 
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Nice! I'm 6 weeks into a perpetual cycle with GHS WR and started a few clones in the Yogurt Cup Challenge. Good to see another variation on a theme!
 
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I'm thinking about taking the plants out of their containers and adding more soil before watering again friday/saturday.

Because if i don't, I'm sure transplanting is gonna be a real nightmare later on.
Should i do it or am i making a mistake here?

If adding more soil is gonna stress them as much as a transplant, i might as well put them into their final 3gal containers right away to avoid stressing my plants twice.

Edit: Fuck it, I'll let them be and deal with my problems later.
 
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Things changed a bit since my last update.

1. WR#2 stopped drinking and is completely stunt because i just had to look at the root system
2. My plants are showing signs of underfeeding
3. There's absolutely zero stretch between nodes causing leaves to stack on top of each others

I'm pretty sure i know what the problem is, thanks to my logs.
They're not underfed, the real issue is nute lock out caused by high PH.
Why? Because i screwed up once again, learned soiless mixes should be treated like hydro and have a PH of 6.3 instead of 7.0

I can't wait for my next grow cause i have made every possible mistakes with this one except overwatering, underwatering or overfeeding surprisingly.

Alright, here are the pics.

WR#1 - Day 20

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WR#2 - Day 20

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WR#3 - Day 19

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WR#4 - Day 14

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Grow logs

9/26/2013 - still moist
9/27/2013 - Gave WR#1 0.5L, WR#2 0.5L, WR#3 0.5L, WR#4 0.35L of water at 7.0PH
9/28/2013 - still moist
9/29/2013 - still moist
9/30/2013 - Fed WR#4 0.5L of water with 3.5g of Maxibloom & 1ml of Silicate 6.3PH. Gave WR#3 0.5L of water 6.3PH.
 

RonSmooth

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Those plants look fine. I see no deficiencies.

And tight inter-nodal spacing is generally preferred and the sign of a healthy plant.

I wouldn't start chasing problems that arent there yet. Youll likely cause more harm than good. If you lower the dose of Protekt, you will lower the pH.
 
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I wouldn't start chasing problems that arent there yet.
Youll likely cause more harm than good.

You're right, I'm over diagnosing a bit but what i predicted did come true 2 days later.
My plants started turning yellow from lack of nitrogen (nute lockout) and I've been trying to fix the problem ever since.

So far, everything is going fine, the leaves are turning dark green and there's a lot less yellow leaves.
I'll post an update tomorrow.

If you lower the dose of Protekt, you will lower the pH.
I'm aware of that but, i only use Protekt when feeding and my feeding water is at a perfect 6.3 pH.

The problem was my watering water.
I ended up lowering it from 7.0 to 6.3 pH and things started looking better.
 

justanotherbozo

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Veteran
...here's a couple White Rhino's of mine from a few years ago that were grown under a 400CMH and in cut down 2liter coke bottle hempy buckets, ...they yielded just shy of 2zipz per.

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...like i said they were grown in coco hempy buckets and they were fed nothing but MaxiBloom with SilicaBlast as a ph up.

...if you are unfamiliar with hempy's do a search, they are a passive form of hydroponics that is VERY forgiving and you'll just LOVE the growth rates.

peace, bozo
 
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...here's a couple White Rhino's of mine from a few years ago that were grown under a 400CMH and in cut down 2liter coke bottle hempy buckets, ...they yielded just shy of 2zipz per.

Damn, that's some massive colas.
Nice job.

...like i said they were grown in coco hempy buckets and they were fed nothing but MaxiBloom with SilicaBlast as a ph up.

...if you are unfamiliar with hempy's do a search, they are a passive form of hydroponics that is VERY forgiving and you'll just LOVE the growth rates.

peace, bozo
I did a quick search and read about it a little but, I'm not really interested.
Maybe in a couple years, after I've mastered the basics, I'll switch medium but for now, I'll stick with pro-mix.

Thanks for suggesting anyway!
 

justanotherbozo

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Veteran
...no problem man, i only suggested hempy's because you seem to be having issues and coco hempys are so simple and fail safe they are the perfect method for new growers, ...i wish i'd found it in MY early days, lol.

...i often advocate that new growers consider coco hempys, KISS style in a vertical, W.o.W. v-SCROG because i believe it to be the simplest way to achieve a repeatable, successful grow, ...in the beginning you should strive for simplicity, you'll have plenty of time down the road to complicate things.

good luck, bozo
 
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A few things have changed since my last update.
All my plants started being pissed about something but, I'm not sure exactly what it is.

Their leaves and bottom of their stem started turning yellow.
My guess is it's a nute lockout caused by the 7.0 pH water I've been given them since day 1.
Either that or I'm dealing with over watering but, i've looked around and have never actually seen any plants turn yellow from it.

There's also something else interesting going on, a bunch of tiny "leaves" started appearing on my nodes.
I'm really hoping those are gonna turn out to be branches.

And finally, i transplanted them into their final 3gal container to fix my stupidly low soil level.

Here's some pictures.

WR#1 - Day 24

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WR#2 - Day 24

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WR#3 - Day 23

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WR#4 - Day 18

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Grow Logs

10/1/2013 - Transplanted and fed WR#2 1.0L of water with 7g of Maxibloom & 1ml of Silicate 6.3PH.
10/2/2013 - Transplanted WR#3 and WR#4. Fed WR#3 1.0L of water with 7g of Maxibloom & 1ml of Silicate 6.3PH. Watered WR#4 1.0L of water at 6.3PH.
10/3/2013 - Transplanted WR#1. Gave WR#1 1.0L of water at 6.3PH.
10/4/2013 - Still moist
 
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Surprisingly, ever since i stopped giving them 7pH water and slowed down with the watering (I only water once a week now), my plants literally exploded.
They doubled in size, shoots have been showing up all over the place and believe it or not they're starting to smell like cinnamon.

I'm quite happy and if they keep on growing the way they are right now I'll probably flip them in two weeks.
They don't really look big on the pictures but, i guarantee you they're all around 13-14 inches tall.

WR#1 Day 30

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WR#2 Day 30

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WR#3 Day 29

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WR#4 Day 24

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Grow Logs

10/5/2013 - Still moist
10/6/2013 - Still moist
10/7/2013 - Watered WR#3 1.0L of water at 6.3PH
10/8/2013 - Fed WR#2 1.0L of water with 7g of Maxibloom & 1ml of Silicate 6.3PH
10/9/2013 - Fed WR#4 1.0L of water with 7g of Maxibloom & 1ml of Silicate 6.3PH
10/10/2013 - Fed WR#1 1.0L of water with 7g of Maxibloom & 1ml of Silicate 6.3PH
 
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I talked to a few people who've grown this strain before and surprise surprise, White Rhino will never grow big because it's a dwarf strain only worth growing in a SOG. :)
Other than that, last week i fucked up my feeding schedule and fed instead of watering causing a slight discoloration on the tip of my leaves.

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Then, i found out leaving water in a sealed bottle for days somehow raise the pH.
So, I ended up watering with 7.0 pH water again causing rust.

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Finally, my plants are focusing their energy on producing branches instead of growing taller.
So, not much has changed, I'll flip them next week.

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Grow Logs

10/11/2013 - still moist
10/12/2013 - Fed WR#3 1.0L of water with 7g of Maxibloom & 1ml of Silicate 6.3PH
10/13/2013 - Watered WR#2 1.0L of water at 6.3PH
10/14/2013 - Watered WR#4 1.0L of water at 6.3PH
10/15/2013 - Watered WR#1, WR#3 1.0L of water at 6.3PH
10/16/2013 - moist
10/17/2013 - moist
 
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