Africa - Namibia (Tropic of capricorn)

[outhereinthesun]

Greeetings MASSIVE!!! If you're reading this and haven't graced the bowl, ts ts ts ts.. you've just sinned.. am from Namibia, swakopmund, grew up here, studied in Cape Town, South africa, graduated Cum Laude in Swazi Skunk and Transkei Outdoor Sativa.. Durban poison is overrated unless you havent tasted its landstrain mother Transkei.. anyway, here to chat, exchange, share, create, meet, all things productive and non detrimental. Check out my earlier post with bud pics etc.. Looking to try get some funds to head to IC Mag cup and do some bowl damaging. Thanks for reading. Give thanks. UnoLove (Apeshe mo ohole)

 

[idiit]

cool. got some transkei from "seeds of africa" going now. from an earlier post i learned a little about the coffee bay, undumbi, and port st. john's area transkei strains.

tell us about transkei strains!

a very respected ic mag. member (now deceased) wowed quite a few smokers with his angola red. i see you go to angola sometimes and have grown angola strains.

share any info you have on angola and other favorites from africa you have smoked.

idiit

 

[MildeStoner]

Howzit, also from very close to the tip, welcome.

Durban poison is overrated unless you havent tasted its landstrain mother Transkei

You mean landrace, and you're wrong in my opinion!
The real DP is a truly killer smoke, with a very different terpene profile to most of our SA genetics. Why might that be? There's a secret ingredient, Indian landrace genetics (My hypothesis, anyway)! It's often said that Durban has the highest population of Indian people of any city outside India itself, and given the vast cultural history of cannabis consumption that nation has it seems extremely unlikely that they would have left their genetics behind when establishing themselves there. I've had the pleasure of smoking an heirloom true DP grown by one family for decades a good few times, incredibly powerful herb
It seems likely that whoever sold you the herb was attempting to cash in on the DP strain's brand image, or maybe Transkei is just more to your taste..

 

[Iffy]

Hello and welcome to IC Mag!

 

[canna woop!]

Welcome to ic, outhereinthesun

 

[outhereinthesun]

Hi idiit, sorry to hear bout your friend. Port st johns is a place in south africa, this is where transkei comes from. Grows natural, mountainous area called the transkei hence the name.Coffee Bai is good as well, lots of white growers, variety and indoor.

Regarding Angola, all i can say is, i have yet to even taste the what it really has to offer.
The angola red you're talking about is probably Rooi Bard (red beard) which is a local favorite for the high end smoker. Apart from that i can say Ive seen and smoked about 4 nameless strains from angola, all sativas. My cousin knows a military commander, who runs a farm about 400KM of the northern boarder, and its totally a legal zone to work with and grow. He also hires out portions etc.

but either than that, am just an enthusiastic smoker aiming to create or strengthen a strain am fond of.

 

[outhereinthesun]

HI MildeStoner,

Let me tell you a story, rather a hypothesis. Ill make it short, might not be new to you.
The Story:

If you have plants from different continents (different environments) that grow naturally at specific latitudes and you take a strain from one continent and grow it at the same latitude in a different continent, then continue to breed that strain in the new environment with the strain you found in the environment, you would make one hell of super strain.

This doesn't change the fact that if i grow a plant and grow it well, id be smoking better than anyone trying out growing stunts. Even your hypothesis about DP isnt far fetched, but yea man, guess we have different taste. DP is a killer of smoke, yes. compared to Cape Cheese? (FACT: you don't get seeds, only cut-lings) so just understand that i wasn't saying DP isn't good, but compared to the myriad of strains popping up in S.A that have no history traceable in the country just like DP, there's a lot more for taste and high you could get. Ive tasted DP grown in cape town, by friend specially for a group of mates of mine, it yielded 460 grams.. beautiful smoke.

The last bud i paid for was in 1999 and it was 50Rand for 2 grams of lemonie (lemon haze)
So i doubt that my friend was trying to get me less than high. Id smoke DP anyday, but for the sakes of letting you overstand you gotta understand i wasnt saying buy swazi over DP.

Give thanks

 

[outhereinthesun]

Iffy the expert for president! LOL...

 

[MildeStoner]

If you have plants from different continents (different environments) that grow naturally at specific latitudes and you take a strain from one continent and grow it at the same latitude in a different continent, then continue to breed that strain in the new environment with the strain you found in the environment, you would make one hell of super strain.

You've got a lot to learn about breeding lol, read the forums. Moving landraces to similar latitudes in other locations is not a recipe for a "super-strain" hehehe.

This doesn't change the fact that if i grow a plant and grow it well, id be smoking better than anyone trying out growing stunts.

What are growing stunts? I only seem to understand half of what you say

DP is a killer of smoke, yes. compared to Cape Cheese? (FACT: you don't get seeds, only cut-lings) so just understand that i wasn't saying DP isn't good, but compared to the myriad of strains popping up in S.A that have no history traceable in the country just like DP, there's a lot more for taste and high you could get. Ive tasted DP grown in cape town, by friend specially for a group of mates of mine, it yielded 460 grams.. beautiful smoke.

Cuttings. And yes, it's a clone only, either the original exodus or a freak BBcheese pheno, everybody has their own story, kind of the like the OG and more recently GSC origin debacles. I'm not sure where the swazi/dp comparison comes from, I was referring to your suggestion that Transkei generally outshines DP, which I disagree with, boils down to subjective perception in the end.

Regarding Angola, all i can say is, i have yet to even taste the what it really has to offer.
The angola red you're talking about is probably Rooi Bard (red beard) which is a local favorite for the high end smoker. Apart from that i can say Ive seen and smoked about 4 nameless strains from angola, all sativas.

That is misinformation, Swazi red/rooibard and Angola red/Angola Roja are not the same thing. They may potentially share parentage from central, east and west African strains, but that's all speculation. Additionally, rooibard has become very hard to come by, I remember getting parcels of swazi so fluffy with long, red pistils I couldn't believe it, now a lot of the stuff clearly has been influenced by international genetics taken into the local growing area's during the 90's and 00's.
Sorry to keep disagreeing with you man, just don't want folks after the various African "Red" strains to be led astray

 

[Rinse]

To be fair though, taking a landrace from Africa and growing at the same lat in say S.E Asia and crossing it to the Asian sativa would make a super nice strain,
I mean one of the strains has to be moved for them to be crossed, even better if the new environment is at the same latitude.

I grew Swazi Rooi Bart years ago and it was pure as far as I could tell, pencil slim leaves no hint of indica,
fluffly buds which were harvested immature and gave one of the raciest highs ever, made my head spin.
Would love to try it grown properly some day.

 

[MildeStoner]

To be fair though, taking a landrace from Africa and growing at the same lat in say S.E Asia and crossing it to the Asian sativa would make a super nice strain

Well, they'd be acclimatized to growing outdoors at the same latitude yeah, but that doesn't mean it would be a great strain, there's a lot more that goes into the selection process involved in creating something really good IMHO.

 

[canna woop!]

If the definition of. A great strain is the plants are living in as close as possible conditions to their natural environment... I agree

 

[outhereinthesun]

Hi Guys,

that latitude story is a hypothesis. Right or wrong, really up to you. Growing stunts are the myriad of many ways you can enhance a growing project, and boy does ICMAG have claims.

To my palate, Transkei indoor over DP indoor any-day. that's just me.

In angola head over to farm kwenga for the red leafed sativas. Let me know what you learn as i have what i learned.
In namibia head over to a town called omaruru, where a family (Boers) grows rooi bart (I dont speak afrikaans,, thanks RINSE) for other white families in the country mostly other boers. Am black so to even meet this fam was a blessing . One of the sweetest sweetest strains around locally here but available to those in the know about it.

You can disagree as much as you want bruv, am not here to be made wrong or right.
Just to share, discuss and make connections, you can read my other posts, not here to be the smart genetic finder and breeder, NO.

Give thanks.

Another hypothesis: this time from SOMA (SOMA SEEDS) he believes if you grow a plant to sell it, you're giving off the vibrational frequencies of greed through intention for monetary gain, and he believes this stunts the plants growth. Therefore plant wont grow to well.

 

[iwannaretire]

It's very hard (impossible?) to speak definitively about strain origin IMO

 

[outhereinthesun]

Rinse, i got some rooi bart last night, been a minute. thought about ur description, a racy hi...so tru... its hectic

give thanks

 

[outhereinthesun]

fuckers dont seem to want to read.

here is an idea iv mentioned before. Get some pure amazonian landraces and cross with a pure swazi gold. or better with a nam pondo.
sure shot hitter

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