whats a good flower hardener??

[baddagger]

hey all I heard that humoltd gravit was the best stuff to help make big dense buds.. now that stuff is off the market .. what is next best thing I could use to get that effect?

also what is the best stuff I can use to help increase tricome production? I heard snow storm ultra was good... is there anything better ?

 

[vapor]

say no to pgr's increase your grow knowledge and you can grow dense nugs with crystals on them too.....

 

[silver hawaiian]

 

[baddagger]

well can anybody eles chime in please that will answer my question?? instead of just making a statement that wont answer my question

 

[yortbogey]

total environmental controls.... w/ a blessing from father time... patience

 

[bench warmer]

I dont know if this would be a "hardener", but I've heard good things about House & Garden's Shooting Powder.

 

[jburns]

if you run your lights on temp 5 degrees colder than your lights off temp. rock hard nugs.

also, use mh for the first 2-3 weeks in flower than finish with hps for the rest.

your welcome.

 

[baddagger]

I dont know if this would be a "hardener", but I've heard good things about House & Garden's Shooting Powder.

no its not.. the shooting powder u use around 3 weeks before harvest and it starts a 2nd flowering wave on your plants to incease your plants over all yield

 

[Infinitesimal]

good genetics, that will give you heavy resin crusted buds more than anything else... that, combined with an optimal environment and nutrition for those genetics, will outperform any special product any day

 

[farmdalefurr]

The answer is simple, You don't need a "flower hardener"!

I know that's not what cha wanna hear bro, but its the truth

Their $$$ down the drain, that$$$ could go to optimizing your environment or investing in good solid genetics (like other stated)

Youll catch on eventually, we've all been there

 

[silver hawaiian]

It's not about any particular product or this or that.

Good environment, good genes, good practices. No silver bullet.

 

[baddagger]

yes I know the environment has a big role on the plant and genetics.. but im not asking about genetics or environment Im asking about brands of bud hardeners and tric production boosters.. I want to try some of these out to see if it will make any difference..... I want to try to do side by side compirson of one plant with boosters and one with out..

 

[Infinitesimal]

no offense, but this a silly question meant for a hydro salesmen, not real growers

no offense, but this a silly question meant for a hydro salesmen, not real growers

yes I know the environment has a big role on the plant and genetics.. but im not asking about genetics or environment Im asking about brands of bud hardeners and tric production boosters.. I want to try some of these out to see if it will make any difference..... I want to try to do side by side compirson of one plant with boosters and one with out..

don't worry this will be my last post here, but we are answering your question...

you wouldn't be asking us what product to spend your money on in order to make your buds harder and frostier if you were satisfied with the level of dense frostiness you are currently getting from your garden, RIGHT?

I mean why spend extra money on something when you are already growing the densest frostiest bud around? so OBVIOUSLY your garden is leaving you with something to be desired...

what we are telling you IS... there are three factors to getting dense frosty bud
1. quality of genetics
2. proper environment for said genetics
3. proper nutrition for said genetics...
if all three of these factors were met, you'd have some of the densest frostiest bud possible and wouldn't be asking anyone online for their opinion, but, if any one of these three are not present in the grow, no matter how much money you spend on ANY specialty fertilizer/hormone, your bud will not be considered "top shelf", even with the use of best "flower hardener" on the market...

have fun learning how to grow

Peace...

 

[vapor]

yes I know the environment has a big role on the plant and genetics.. but im not asking about genetics or environment Im asking about brands of bud hardeners and tric production boosters.. I want to try some of these out to see if it will make any difference..... I want to try to do side by side compirson of one plant with boosters and one with out..

you could not do a side by side of the pgr's and not in the same building/area, not fair anyways they spread good and far.They are not good for the environment or you or your kids, or your kids friends and their neighbors...

http://www.lazyssfarm.com/Inquiring Minds/PGRs.htm

 

[stoney917]

They not healthy for u to use but the answer ur lookin for is phospholipid and Bushmaster

 

[ZombieLabs]

Baddagger man, I thought you learned your lesson on this subject matter with the thread you started about snowstorm ultra

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=262143

 

[baddagger]

They not healthy for u to use but the answer ur lookin for is phospholipid and Bushmaster

umm why are they not healthy for you? and I am being serious asking this

 

[bench warmer]

I think Paclobutrazol is the ingredient used in the products you're looking for.
It can be ordered online easily enough. Used in very low amounts, it will quickly stop vertical growth and most plants continue to fill out their buds but at the cost of trich density & terpenes. In spite of a 2 week flush buds burned poorly & tasted like burned rubber.
Strains were Sensi Star, White Widow, Orgnkid's OG Kush, Sour Diesel, Romulan.
Luckily, I didn't use it (Superbud & Phosphoload) on all plants.

 

[vapor]

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC34826

 

[canna woop!]

I once used bloom boosters etc.

I would never put that shit in my soil today. Can't fix the past

Just read the msds sheets for the products, look up the ingredients and make your own mind up! Doing this was the tipping point for me even though I knew about organically for much longer