Organic K sources

[OrganicBuds]

It's that time of year outdoors where K is in high demand. What is everybody feeding their plants to keep the K levels up? I have some liquid kelp that has a NPK ratio of 1-1-17 that seems like it should work. Top dressing of kelp also maybe?

What's the organic heads doing to accomplish this?

 

[VortexPower420]

I just toppdressed with kelp. I notice one is in need of more K so I made a Kelp tea (1 handful in 5gal water let sit for a few days)

I just watered today I look foward to see how they are doing.

We got down to 38 fucking cold degrees last night. I covered everything seeing they are showing a little K def and don't trust their sugars to be high enough to stop a freeze.

After this kelp tea they should be able to take a freeze.

Timbuktu

 

[Carbon.Chains]

Comfrey is a nice source of K imo.
Never had a problem supplying K though. P on the other hand, only found fish bones locally.

 

[fuzzdog]

Kelp......in any form should be high in K...... I tooo... make an aerated Kelp heavy humus tea... Instead of compost, I use Alaskian Humus..... i feel it makes a better tea...

 

[OrganicBuds]

How about the use of Ksil? Just as effective?

 

[FatherEarth]

outdoors...

outdoors...

If you built your battery properly you shouldnt be worrying in this part of the game. My girls are trouble free and coasting. But just in case the battery began to sputter I keep a fast absorbed foliar of P and K and micros on hand at all times for times like you are experiencing.

PHT Potassium


PHT Phosphorus

photomag, sea crop, sea stim for the rest of potential issues....

Quality vibes in correcting your big plant issues.


Respect,

FE

PS. How did you build your soil and did you get testing done before planting? Also I would suggest getting a test now if you think you are seeing def's. Start thinking of how you are going to rebuild for next year to avoid this issue. . . my 2

 

[FatherEarth]

Ksil is the same as ag sil 16 I believe... Its solid, I thought you had this on the shelf already? If not you can grab some from customhydronutrients ....

 

[Easy7]

My spots are naturally high in k, very low in everything else. Green sand the fall before is good for k.

 

[OrganicBuds]

Thanks for chiming in everybody, .

Father Earth - Thanks for the advice. I don't think I am having "problems" with not enough K, but the picture below is why I am concerned. This is only on one plant, but it is a giant plant in a 100 gal pot. I worry with the size of the plant, I may not have enough juice in my battery to finish strong. However all my other plants look very strong, with only one plant starting to show signs of yellowing.

As for my soil, most of my soil is from the Earth Worm Soil Farm in Chico, ca. I did not have test done to this soil, but have heard nothing but positive things about it. So far, I also have nothing negative so say about it, some of the best soil I have ever grown with. The other soil is a mix that I have used for several seasons, and soil tests were done.

Total exchange capacity (M.E.) 49.09

Ca 64.90%
Magnesium 15.04%
Potassium 4.94%
Sodium 3.12%
other bases (variables) 4.5%
Exchangeable hydrogen 1.50%

These figures were pretty darn good before the recommendations, but I then amended accordingly. This was from Kinsey Agricultural Services.

The plant that I believe may becoming K deficient is in the EWSF soil, so it might be a good idea to test the soil now like you say. Thanks for the input.

 

[OrganicBuds]

Ksil is the same as ag sil 16 I believe... Its solid, I thought you had this on the shelf already? If not you can grab some from customhydronutrients ....

I do have several types of both kelp and Ksil products. Just brain storming on what would be most effective. The San Fran Max Yield hydro show has me well stocked up on samples of many products. I also have 5 gal buckets full of all my amendments such as Kelp, alfalfa, feather meal, oyster shell flower, ext ext.

 

[The Hummus Monk]

I'm about to use mini pelleted organic potash 2-2-20. It's a by product of the sugar beet industry.

 

[Greenheart]

Kelp tea will provide a rapid source of K. In my worm bin I use skins or peelings from bananna, cucumber, grapefruit, lemon, orange, and potatos.

Cucumber is also a good source of P.

 

[FatherEarth]

FYI monsanto stepped up and has taken the sugar beet industry GMO a couple years back. Now half the sugar supply in the US comes from beets, GMO none the less. Might want to investigate your source Monk just to be on the safe side.


Respect,

FE

 

[The Hummus Monk]

FatherEarth - could you elaborate/simplify the possible risks associated with my organic beet potash? I'm newish to organics and would appreciate your input. Feel free to pm if you don't want to clog up this thread.

H

 

[Granger2]

If it's organic it won't be GMO. Molasses is about 3% K. There's also Sul-Po-Mag. Potassium Sulfate is acceptable for organic production if it is from a mined source. Good luck. -granger

 

[jcmjrt]

banana peel tea can give a nice K boost.

 

[FatherEarth]

Cross pollination of such major crops is a given. There is a certain level of allowable GMO contamination of organic crops. I try and avoid things that are a staple for the GMO industry for this reason, for example organic soy and corn. Once these things are released into the environment you cant take them back.

 

[VerdantGreen]

ob the plant pic you showed looks consistent with coloring that may have been caused by slightly colder temps... not sure that is possible where you are but worth a thought....

VG

 

[OrganicBuds]

Sure is a possibility, didn't even think of that. Getting to the end of the season and the plants know it. Thanks for the advice.

 

[VerdantGreen]

ive always associated anthocyanin production in the stems, petioles and leaf veins as a sign of P deficiency in some plants, your plants seem to be getting it from the very outer extremities of the leaves.

how long till they're ready? they look great.