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I'M BACK!!!...and making A LOT of BHO...w/ pics...come join!!!

EastBayGrower

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almost every single brand of parchment is coated in silicone. might want to check you source on that.


...more hear say.... I WANT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE if silicone is bad for BHO, definitive anwer, ill start blasting back into the pyrex but this iss quicker,, ,ya dig?
 

EastBayGrower

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Heat is the enemy of terpene rich bho. Do some reading. Obviously a lot of information has emerged since you were last at it.


so ive taken your advice to heart, i now let the water cool a good way below boiling, (tried thermometer but it was too cheap) before putting it in hot bath

also i spray in glass in hot bath with left over hot water (hot enough to purge most of it by the time i bring the HOT water from stove and stop spraying)

any more advice on ways to improve quality/yeild/consistency???
 

midwestHIGHS

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No hear say just facts.

Ya you want evidence go to any chemical compatibility database and you will see butane shouldn't be used with silicone. Even the guys at oil slick say you shouldn't blast directly on to their silicone pads. Although storing oil may not be problem, I would highly suggest against blasting directly on to parchment and or silicone mats.

http://www.coleparmer.com/Chemical-Resistance

I made a thread all about this if you want to dig it up.
 

midwestHIGHS

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This is the only parchement i have found without silicone http://www.baar.com/patapar.htm

I havnt tried it out though so im not sure how it works.

interesting I have never been able to find a non stick parchment paper not wax paper that wasn't coated in silicone, have you found any other information besides what they provided?

Teflon coated paper is an option it has an excellent rating with butane in the chemical compatibility data base
 

SkyHighLer

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Every parchment paper is either silicone or quilon coated, except for Patapar, which isn't very non-stick imo. My local supermarket, Stator Bros., had to call their parchment paper vendor and who then had to research it, she told me the vendor had never had the question before...
 

EastBayGrower

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Myth. It's fine to spray onto parchment. if it dissolved the silicone spray that is on the paper, the oil wouldn't come off, duh. That's why we use parchment. If you're worried about silicone better not use slick pads or anything for blasting either...

You're fine EBG. .


Where did you get this info from? It seems to me that people have been doing it for a while and this is first ive heard of it being bad (i'll try scraping a run a see how long it takes...., i def. do lke just ripping the paper out, throwing a clean one down, and going again....)

It;s onlt my first time using parchement, so i might go back, ill test oil from pyrex to oil off parchment for tastes, visible contaminants, ect.. later, pics coming, now this thread is going somewhere!!!!!
 

EastBayGrower

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Every parchment paper is either silicone or quilon coated, except for Patapar, which isn't very non-stick imo. My local supermarket, Stator Bros., had to call their parchment paper vendor and who then had to research it, she told me the vendor had never had the question before...


I asked the same thing at the ghetto super market i was at also, they had no clue what i was talking about, (didnt know about un-bleached parchemnt paper also, they had ONE kind, reynolds)
 

m314

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interesting I have never been able to find a non stick parchment paper not wax paper that wasn't coated in silicone, have you found any other information besides what they provided?

Teflon coated paper is an option it has an excellent rating with butane in the chemical compatibility data base

What about a teflon coated pan? I wonder how easily the oil would come off compared to pyrex.
 
What about a teflon coated pan? I wonder how easily the oil would come off compared to pyrex.

That sounds aweful, how do you suppose you would collect that. The teflon sheets work because you can fold them.

Is scraping that bad for you guys? It takes me all of 5 min to scrape an ounce.
 

EastBayGrower

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That sounds aweful, how do you suppose you would collect that. The teflon sheets work because you can fold them.

Is scraping that bad for you guys? It takes me all of 5 min to scrape an ounce.


yes,,, it is,,, when u have multiple runs each day, it really slows the process down....
 

TickleMyBalls

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Scraping unpurged oil is very difficult. Takes 5 minutes to scrape an oz of dry wax off of Pyrex, sticky freshy post water bath oil is more like a half hour and a lot of lost oil to corners and sides of the dish and on blades and gloves when transferring. Only way to avoid that is to work in a frozen environment, which I don't really have available to me.
 
yes,,, it is,,, when u have multiple runs each day, it really slows the process down....

Your just being lazy, and sacrificing the quality of your product for a few min of scraping when you spray onto parchment. Maybe you guys need a little more practice. I scraped 3 ounces of winterized shatter today and it maybe took me 15-25 min total. The key is being able to tell when the viscosity of your oil is easiest for the scrape, also round plate=no corners. I use an MKIII these days so the only scraping i do is after it is winterized and evaped in pyrex.
 

TickleMyBalls

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Does your oil have any terpenes left in it after or do you add them back in? Terpenes are an essential part of the medical equation
 

m314

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That sounds aweful, how do you suppose you would collect that. The teflon sheets work because you can fold them.

Is scraping that bad for you guys? It takes me all of 5 min to scrape an ounce.

Just an idea. I've never used teflon at all in the process, so I don't know how sticky it would be.

Scraping isn't that bad for me, and I never waste anything. Any oil left on the pyrex goes into a batch of tincture. It would be nice to skip the whole scraping thing if there was an easy way.
 

EastBayGrower

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:moon:




an ounce of oil... more to come... next strain will be ....drum roll please


...Lemon skunk, cant wait to start but still only half way done with this run...

 

EastBayGrower

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looking good to me... asgood as it can be, its actually pretty golden and not runny..








I fold the paper over and press it on a big piece of oil until its in one big ball, 1-3mins per sheet, i like it better than scraping pans


Before:



I freeze the sheets for 30 secs and use two cold packs if i need em



What u guys think, only half way done on this run, more to come,,,
 

m314

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How can i tell?

Oil with all the terpenes intact will taste exactly like the bud smells before you do the extraction. It's a nice flavor with the right strain. If the oil is overpurged a little, the high will still be there but some of the flavor is gone.
 
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