Farmer's Funky Flower Trees - PPK

[FlowerFarmer]

Spot on Fred. Looking back, they are right about 53 days bloom or 7.5 weeks flower.

It's been a long while since I've grown this Afghani mango, but I'll likely let her go until 70 days or possibly more. I'm pretty sure others take it 10wks +.

I normally don't go by trich color, but rather just visually watching the ripening/fattening process. The buds are now beginning to really chunk up day by day. When the bud structure looks to have come one with the hairs I know they're getting close...when the hairs will no longer protrude from the flower.

I'm unsure of how I'll do. I think it still may be a lower then average harvest, but we'll have to see. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I was starting to get skeptical, but I'm really seeing them pack on the weight now. Every day some of the lower branches will have flopped over and needing a yo-yo to keep them in the sweet spots.

Unfortunately I didn't really do any real pruning (which I don't believe this variety needs a lot of), but they might have benefited a little as I do have a bunch of smalls all over the place. They are dense though, but going to make trimming a bit more lengthy.


I've sort of allowed myself to fall off my game this grow, and priors really. I've dealt with a strain which has given me nothing but trouble for nearly a year and then after realizing it was 100% strain related I then ran into some trouble with coco in the new PPKs / new strain. I've also had a total crop failure at a remote (friend ran) spot with some horizontal tents, but that's a another story entirely. Too much heat, basement taking on water during non-stop storms, and possibly missed waterings.. not really sure. It needs torn down and re-worked proper.

Has had me bummed and I've kinda lost interest. I'm excited to finish this run.. clean up everywhere and start fresh with turface in my PPKs.

 

[delta9nxs]

Spot on Fred. Looking back, they are right about 53 days bloom or 7.5 weeks flower.

It's been a long while since I've grown this Afghani mango, but I'll likely let her go until 70 days or possibly more. I'm pretty sure others take it 10wks +.

I normally don't go by trich color, but rather just visually watching the ripening/fattening process. The buds are now beginning to really chunk up day by day. When the bud structure looks to have come one with the hairs I know they're getting close...when the hairs will no longer protrude from the flower.

I'm unsure of how I'll do. I think it still may be a lower then average harvest, but we'll have to see. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. I was starting to get skeptical, but I'm really seeing them pack on the weight now. Every day some of the lower branches will have flopped over and needing a yo-yo to keep them in the sweet spots.

Unfortunately I didn't really do any real pruning (which I don't believe this variety needs a lot of), but they might have benefited a little as I do have a bunch of smalls all over the place. They are dense though, but going to make trimming a bit more lengthy.


I've sort of allowed myself to fall off my game this grow, and priors really. I've dealt with a strain which has given me nothing but trouble for nearly a year and then after realizing it was 100% strain related I then ran into some trouble with coco in the new PPKs / new strain. I've also had a total crop failure at a remote (friend ran) spot with some horizontal tents, but that's a another story entirely. Too much heat, basement taking on water during non-stop storms, and possibly missed waterings.. not really sure. It needs torn down and re-worked proper.

Has had me bummed and I've kinda lost interest. I'm excited to finish this run.. clean up everywhere and start fresh with turface in my PPKs.

man, i am so happy you are going to at least finish.

i'm very sorry that you had so much trouble.

i still don't know what happened here.

 

[TheBatCave]

nice grow

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Started chopping these down tonight. Around ~73 days or around there.


Looking really nice, I'm happy. Really dense all the way down and very easy to trim. While far from perfect this is a huge relief from all the past strain related trouble I've been limping through.

All trophy tops came down and de-faned. Hung to trim dry.
Then mids and chunky buds get hand trimmed wet and placed on dry rack.
All smalls and stuff I don't want to deal with get tossed in trimpro rotor, but this strain appears to barely need it. I don't even hear much getting cut when tumbling around in the rotor.

1 down, 6 to go. (aside from the major tops from each plant which I prefer to trim dry).

 

[high life 45]

Nice! Glad to see a bunch of dank hangin!

 

[Desert Hydro]

glad you pulled out a win after a near disaster. you always got good shit going man. been following your stuff since the coco and blumat times. soon i'll get up to your level haha. setting up my first bigger vert grow as we speak. getting all vegged up proper. first run is gonna be bulk rockwool DJM style. next time im moving to ppk's to see what happens

 

[extreegrowerrr]

Ill tell you what your problem is cause I had the same problem and it stumped me really bad. Your medium is too wet in the beginning locking out calmag that happens in coco. Once they become large established plants you can start juicing them with more feeds. Another is coco does not hold cal or mag very good. 9 out of 10 gardens have some sort of mag deficiency. A mag defiency occurred in the big room faster then the t-5 room do to co2 and 1000 watt bulbs. The plants were photosynthesizing alot harder needing more mag being the medium was too wet mag was locked out. I don't care what nutrient you use or what anybody tells you....you need calmag at 200ppm with RO water period! every other week add 100ppm straight mag with 200ppm cal mag also. Magnesium is used up big time in 1000 watt co2 gardens especially with coco as a medium. If you get magnesium deficiency in flower your buds will be smaller and you will never catch up to a magnesium deficiency in flower. If you master magnesium that is what gives you 2+ per light along with other factors. But that is usually the last missing piece to very great gardens that most look over. Your yields will suffer by half. Also alot of gardeners will experience mag def. 1 week into flower that is because once the plant is switched to flower the cells inside divide so fast preparing for flower they use up all there magnesium. Supplementing straight magnesium with RO is a must with coco. I know for sure this is the problem. It mistakes its self as a potassium def. as well. Never the case. Magnesium and potassium problems look almost identical.
Good luck.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Thanks for the insight.

Too wet was definitely a problem attempting coco in these PPKs. I've got a few more plants down, and it is more apparent then ever in my root-zone. I havn't pulled the ball to inspect the majority of the roots, but I was able to snap the trunk from the root ball with some twisting and little effort. Not a good sign.

I normally have a heck of a time getting the stumps out of the pot, and resort to using a saw zaw to cut them out. This grow, I was able to snap baseball bat trunks with ease from the pot.

Definite signs of root rot. I honestly can't believe I brought this to harvest successfully.


I'll toss up some pics in a minute.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

I've got nothing on deck at the moment, but once this is all down and cleaned up next run will be with screened turface. Will continue to blumat in coco, but I just don't believe coco is ideal in a PPK, at least not as "fool proof".

 

[SecondAttempt]

I had the same experience running coco in my PPKs... only without the awesome yield, good job bringing home the W.

Things are running much better now that I'm in turface... nowhere to go but up for you.

 

[SRGB]

FlowerFarmer:

I've got nothing on deck at the moment, but once this is all down and cleaned up next run will be with screened turface. Will continue to blumat in coco, but I just don't believe coco is ideal in a PPK, at least not as "fool proof".

Hi, FlowerFarmer.

Calcined clay can become and remain saturated (`wet`) as well, with multiple waterings per day. One option might be to try 100% fine (1/16 inch) to small (1/8 - 1/4 inch) pumice. The substrate can hold moisture on its collidial surfaces, while draining well, with optional multiple waterings per day. Propagation grade (fine) perlite might work well, too. The pumice in particular does not crumble as perlite can, is inert (does not react with the nutrient solution) and is approximately 90% (+/-) reusable (some fine particulate might be lost during usage). Just an option that might be considered or explored by the soilless gardener.

Best,
/SRGB/

 

[FlowerFarmer]

I'm honestly amazed.
Despite all of my problems.. .

Final yield = 12lbs.


This was from 7 plants grown with 4 1000w lamps and 4 600w lamps. A total wattage of 6400w. The lamps however were just what I had around and had been used for several grows. The 600w lamps.. even older.

1.875 lbs per 1000w of light
1.71 lbs per plant


I'm stoked. This is not only the best yield I've gotten in my years of growing, but also might be the highest quality. Smells amazing.


I've still got to source some Turface and get it screened/cleaned, so nothing on deck at the moment. All of my clones went into cups of coco... so I'm not sure what's next.

Till we grow again.. thanks for following everyone. I promise my next PPK run will not disappoint. Hopefully in turface, with much healthier plants, I'll crush 2+ lbs per light.

 

[Mister_D]

 

[SecondAttempt]

Awesome yield all things considered....

As far as sourcing turface goes I'm using Pro's Choice Red Infield Conditioner, same thing as turface.

http://www.proschoice1.com/products.html

(first product on this link)

Maybe you have a distributor in your area....

 

[Desert Hydro]

if you have any bigger auto parts stores they will have it along with the DE version as a clean up for spills and oil

 

[delta9nxs]

I'm honestly amazed.
Despite all of my problems.. .

Final yield = 12lbs.


This was from 7 plants grown with 4 1000w lamps and 4 600w lamps. A total wattage of 6400w. The lamps however were just what I had around and had been used for several grows. The 600w lamps.. even older.

1.875 lbs per 1000w of light
1.71 lbs per plant


I'm stoked. This is not only the best yield I've gotten in my years of growing, but also might be the highest quality. Smells amazing.


I've still got to source some Turface and get it screened/cleaned, so nothing on deck at the moment. All of my clones went into cups of coco... so I'm not sure what's next.

Till we grow again.. thanks for following everyone. I promise my next PPK run will not disappoint. Hopefully in turface, with much healthier plants, I'll crush 2+ lbs per light.

too cool!

 

[MrAwder]

Nice job, Love those afghani mango spears. Cool to see someone else working with her.

hope you dont mind, here is a shot of one of mine from my last 600w donut:

 

[forkup]

I'm honestly amazed.
Despite all of my problems.. .

Final yield = 12lbs.


This was from 7 plants grown with 4 1000w lamps and 4 600w lamps. A total wattage of 6400w. The lamps however were just what I had around and had been used for several grows. The 600w lamps.. even older.

1.875 lbs per 1000w of light
1.71 lbs per plant


I'm stoked. This is not only the best yield I've gotten in my years of growing, but also might be the highest quality. Smells amazing.


I've still got to source some Turface and get it screened/cleaned, so nothing on deck at the moment. All of my clones went into cups of coco... so I'm not sure what's next.

Till we grow again.. thanks for following everyone. I promise my next PPK run will not disappoint. Hopefully in turface, with much healthier plants, I'll crush 2+ lbs per light.

That is most excellent news FF, I'm happy for you. That gives me a lot of hope for my 4K 8 plant garden with turface. I'm 3 1/2 weeks in and things are most impressive so far.

I have a coco circle going as I mentioned in Big Johns thread. I've had pretty good luck with coco DTW but nothing compares to my ppk garden with turface. After my initial ph worries and taking D9s advise to mix the Jacks and let it ride it's been smooth sailing and true to form almost boring. There's really nothing to do other than to refill the bulk res. I still check ph and EC at least weekly out of habit but so far that was nothing but a waste of time.

I'm betting you'll have clear sailing once you make the switch to turface. You hung in there this grow and recovered well so I expect you will kill it in turface.

 

[whatthe215]

congratulations on shattering your expectations man!

enjoy the fruits of your labor!

 

[DHF]

Top shelf Bro.....Even fuckin shit up and STILL comin home with the bacon....

12 lbs pays some bills huh ?......Lovin more and more dialed big plant setups with that there plant killer......

PPK and bare bulbs rule.......All else drool..........Told HL the other day I see no reason for him not ta be pumpin out 12 lb rooms and ABOVE once his 4 plant 5 light setups get strains and environment dialed...

No reason for you not ta follow suit my buddy...Enjoy yer lil vacation and then......

Get back ta work............

Peace.....Freds.............