Let's see and hear about Blockhead IBL!

[Snype]

I've read all the threads in the Grindhouse Forum on Blockhead IBL. I need much more information on this strain and there seems to be a lack of it. I would love to hear other growers experinces with Blockhead IBL. The more detailed, the better. Im about to pop some seeds and have my list ready. I have a feeling that Blockhead IBL is needing to be germinated for 2 crosses that I want to make. I dont want to waste any time growing something that I'm not looking for. I would love to hear anything related to Blockhead IBL!

 

[Green Supreme]

From the pics posted in Grindhouse's forums, I would say not many are finding Blockhead. Good luck. Peace GS

 

[Snype]

From the pics posted in Grindhouse's forums, I would say not many are finding Blockhead. Good luck. Peace GS

Im not sure what you mean. Maybe you are comparing it to the original Blockhead. I believe that Blockhead IBL should have more phenos in the P19 traits. Please ellaborate further.

 

[Calimed]

Curious as well... Might run this outdoors next season.

 

[Green Supreme]

Yes I was talking about Blockhead. Not sure if its still in their forum, but this whole tangtang thing is bs. Once again folks searching for something they have never seen and of course having resounding success.

Making money off a name, shocker. Peace GS

 

[Snype]

Yes I was talking about Blockhead. Not sure if its still in their forum, but this whole tangtang thing is bs. Once again folks searching for something they have never seen and of course having resounding success.

Making money off a name, shocker. Peace GS

I still have no idea what you are trying to say. Are you saying that all the pictures that other growers say is the P19 pheno but in your opinion it is not? Or are you saying that Blockhead is very different than Blockhead IBL? Or are you saying that Blockhead IBL is just some strain that is a fake IBL that contains many phenos that do not include the P19?

 

[Green Supreme]

I am saying how do they know its the P 19 pheno, if NONE of them have ever encountered it before? I put out mot of the P19 hints that are out there. Could it be it may not be P19 at all? And this is breeding folks. Peace GS

 

[Snype]

I am saying how do they know its the P 19 pheno, if NONE of them have ever encountered it before? I put out mot of the P19 hints that are out there. Could it be it may not be P19 at all? And this is breeding folks. Peace GS

This thread is not about rumors or speculation. Im looking for facts from growers who have experience with it. If you know so much about P19, why not state it instead of being so vague. Maybe you just dont like the specific breeder or something like that but I dont know.

 

[Green Supreme]

Ya no problem. Sorry to have bothered you. I have shared much info in that forum on this subject. If you did not find it, perhaps they didn't want you to see it. That's the thing about breeders forums. True or not, they can erase what they don't like. Good luck in your hunt. I will keep the rest to myself for you. Peace GS

 

[Snype]

Any growers who have experience with Blockhead IBL, please feel free to let us know anything at all about your experiences.

It seems from PM's that I recieved, that a lot of people arent too fond of at least one of the breeders so I really dont care about those issues. All I want to know is anything you can tell me about your personal Blockhead IBL experiences. Pictures would also be amazing!

 

[Swampwater]

No experience with grindhouse BH- imo started from too small of a gene pool & I didnt like the looks of all ones ive seen photos of here on Icmag(to be fair I haven't looked at everyone's, just saw a few that didnt even look like bh).

If you want blockhead, get Genehtik's buruandi (blockhead f2's). Shit germ rates with mine(4 of 15)but- these 4 are bad to the bone & redefined the word 'vigor'. At 2" tall they had 5-6 nodes & were root bound in 20oz cups. Transplanted to 2gal smartpots and 3 days later they already have roots shooting out of the sides/bottom. Crazy root growth on these guys.

•Pheno 1: sativa Dom, short & squat with minimal side branching.
•Pheno 2: Very sativa Dom, tallest/most vigorous, lots of side branching and stinky stinky stinky. Never seen a plant stink like that at such an early stage.
•Pheno 3: short squat indica dom, minimal side branching, almost looks like an afghani atm(but will prob grow out of that)
•pheno 4. Hybrid, lots of side branching.

I'll do a thread on em soon.

 

[Snype]

If you want blockhead, get Genehtik's buruandi (blockhead f2's). Shit germ rates(4 of 15) but these 4 are bad to the bone & redefined the word 'vigor'. At 2" tall they had 5-6 nodes & were root bound in 20oz cups. Transplanted to 2gal smartpots and 3 days later they already have roots shooting out of the sides/bottom. Crazy root growth on these guys.

•Pheno 1: sativa Dom, short & squat with minimal side branching.
•Pheno 2: Very sativa Dom, tallest/most vigorous, lots of side branching and stinky stinky stinky.
•Pheno 3: short squat indica dom, minimal side branching, almost looks like an afghani atm(but will prob grow out of that)
•pheno 4. Hybrid, lots of side branching.

I'll do a thread on em soon.

I have 50 Blockhead IBL seeds and am only looking for info of Blockhead IBL. Not sure if your Blockhead F2's came from grindhouse but there are no F2's of IBL's. The breeding between the same IBL line still results in an IBL and not F2.

 

[elkie]

the P19 pheno has a distinct leaf...the 2 small fingers closest to the plant / stock will stick straight up in the air...not lay flat like the rest of the leaf...good luck...elk..

 

[codger]

Would do ya some good to listen to GS and them other boys from up north they know all about Blockhead and all other plants that Steve bred, the look ,the smell the puff them BC boys know their plants that come from there that's for sure ,tang tang,lmfiao....codger

 

[Kant C Shyt]

Hey Snype, I grew some BH IBL plants last year. Only got 1 female but 4 males out of 5 or 6 beans started (forgot bean count, don't have notes handy) but good germ rates on these I do remember that. The males all ranged from various sizes, structures, indy/sat influences so basically a good pheno selection of studs. I used most of them also to make more IBL beans and a few crosses (LemonHead, SweetHead, Lawnmower Man, F.E.A.R., and I think there are a few beans of Star Trek). There was 1 male that was different but i'll come back to that in a min.

Heres my take on the lone female I got so I just want ya'll to know i'm not passing final judgement on it because I was only working with 1 pheno but will be growing some more at a later time. The female I got was sativa dom and had 8 or so tops but no side branching to those branches and main stem, just 8 long colas and then buds spaced out down the stems. She got bud rot in 4 1/2 of those 8 colas (this grow was also outside and they were kinda dense colas but not rock hard or anything like that) but I actually just let them do them and didn't use any neen oil or greencure before or during flowering (or anything like that I let em go natural above ground, but used chem ferts that season). She tasted and smelled like pine, after the cure still pine but with maybe a drop or 2 of fruit. The high was okay and not really potent just mellow (didn't get me up too much or down too much just a decent daytime smoke). The female I had was ok but next time i'm looking for some keeper phenos cause I know there are better plants in that genepool. Next time will be indoors so i'll have better results and be able to stay on top of any mold situations before they start on a daily basis.

Now Snype I don't know if you heard of the P19 and then went on a crazy search on here looking for all I could about the^. I checked out all the old Blockhead threads and all that Project 19 stuff also. It made me want to find that P19 bad lol so I waited for the release and got these IBL beans hearing they were based off the P19 pheno of Blockhead. I was intrigued by this crazy African sativa that was supposed to increase the neuro activity, and even cause psychosis and extreme paranoia in some people. Its not recommended for people with mental instabilities. From what I gathered in all my searches was a lot of the original BH had very good phenos and I think the mom gave more aspects to the high then people realize even if she wasn't displayed structure-wise. Yukon used to say that most of the BH phenos would mess your head up and his favorite was the SPG pheno.

Now did I find the famed P19 pheno that this IBL was supposedly based off with my lone female no, but I do think there is something there worth looking for. Ok back to that strange male that I was taking about earlier. He had the 2 petiole leaflets that pointed up (actually all of the BH IBLs had that, some more extreme than others) and a very strange sativa look with some leaf deformities like SS pointed out in a thread while he was working on the BH IBL project. Looking at the other BH IBL grows on here I haven't seen anyone elses plants look how that male of mine did. I do think that that he was the closest to the P19 out of all 5 of my plants or even the other BH IBLs I've seen. I will explore this genepool again but it may be a little while. I'd also really like to get ahold of an original pack or F2s off of an original SOL Blockhead release that way I could not only get to experience BH in its original form but also make my own selctions along the way.

I'd say with a 50 pack of these BH IBLs you should find something interesting if not a few nice keepers. Check out a few of these IBL grows to get a better idea if you haven't already. If you can Snype cause I know you used to get a lot of great strains back during the Rez days, i'd try to find some originals or F2s also to look through, never know what you may find. Cannacopia got 10 original packs of 15 seed SOL Blockhead from Chimera but haven't heard anything about that since I heard about it. Also there is a member here (haven't seen him since his dad got sick) I think name oldbongwater and he had a lot of old Blockhead seeds he started (think around 100) and he said he found like 20 some P19 phenos out of those and was gonna work em but again its been some time since I last saw him I think in the Deluxe Seeds forum. Trust me I was really looking for that P19 not too long ago. Green Supreme also does know a lot about the P19 as he had the pure form years ago. Hope all this helps. I actually started writing this yesterday and got busy and had to work all day so I just got to finishing this response up. Hope we still can get that crazy P19 to pop up for us 1 day. GL in your hunt and take care 1

P.S. I may hit you up if you still wanna talk BH later.

 

[Snype]

Hey Snype, I grew some BH IBL plants last year. Only got 1 female but 4 males out of 5 or 6 beans started (forgot bean count, don't have notes handy) but good germ rates on these I do remember that. The males all ranged from various sizes, structures, indy/sat influences so basically a good pheno selection of studs. I used most of them also to make more IBL beans and a few crosses (LemonHead, SweetHead, Lawnmower Man, F.E.A.R., and I think there are a few beans of Star Trek). There was 1 male that was different but i'll come back to that in a min.

Heres my take on the lone female I got so I just want ya'll to know i'm not passing final judgement on it because I was only working with 1 pheno but will be growing some more at a later time. The female I got was sativa dom and had 8 or so tops but no side branching to those branches and main stem, just 8 long colas and then buds spaced out down the stems. She got bud rot in 4 1/2 of those 8 colas (this grow was also outside and they were kinda dense colas but not rock hard or anything like that) but I actually just let them do them and didn't use any neen oil or greencure before or during flowering (or anything like that I let em go natural above ground, but used chem ferts that season). She tasted and smelled like pine, after the cure still pine but with maybe a drop or 2 of fruit. The high was okay and not really potent just mellow (didn't get me up too much or down too much just a decent daytime smoke). The female I had was ok but next time i'm looking for some keeper phenos cause I know there are better plants in that genepool. Next time will be indoors so i'll have better results and be able to stay on top of any mold situations before they start on a daily basis.

Now Snype I don't know if you heard of the P19 and then went on a crazy search on here looking for all I could about the^. I checked out all the old Blockhead threads and all that Project 19 stuff also. It made me want to find that P19 bad lol so I waited for the release and got these IBL beans hearing they were based off the P19 pheno of Blockhead. I was intrigued by this crazy African sativa that was supposed to increase the neuro activity, and even cause psychosis and extreme paranoia in some people. Its not recommended for people with mental instabilities. From what I gathered in all my searches was a lot of the original BH had very good phenos and I think the mom gave more aspects to the high then people realize even if she wasn't displayed structure-wise. Yukon used to say that most of the BH phenos would mess your head up and his favorite was the SPG pheno.

Now did I find the famed P19 pheno that this IBL was supposedly based off with my lone female no, but I do think there is something there worth looking for. Ok back to that strange male that I was taking about earlier. He had the 2 petiole leaflets that pointed up (actually all of the BH IBLs had that, some more extreme than others) and a very strange sativa look with some leaf deformities like SS pointed out in a thread while he was working on the BH IBL project. Looking at the other BH IBL grows on here I haven't seen anyone elses plants look how that male of mine did. I do think that that he was the closest to the P19 out of all 5 of my plants or even the other BH IBLs I've seen. I will explore this genepool again but it may be a little while. I'd also really like to get ahold of an original pack or F2s off of an original SOL Blockhead release that way I could not only get to experience BH in its original form but also make my own selctions along the way.

I'd say with a 50 pack of these BH IBLs you should find something interesting if not a few nice keepers. Check out a few of these IBL grows to get a better idea if you haven't already. If you can Snype cause I know you used to get a lot of great strains back during the Rez days, i'd try to find some originals or F2s also to look through, never know what you may find. Cannacopia got 10 original packs of 15 seed SOL Blockhead from Chimera but haven't heard anything about that since I heard about it. Also there is a member here (haven't seen him since his dad got sick) I think name oldbongwater and he had a lot of old Blockhead seeds he started (think around 100) and he said he found like 20 some P19 phenos out of those and was gonna work em but again its been some time since I last saw him I think in the Deluxe Seeds forum. Trust me I was really looking for that P19 not too long ago. Green Supreme also does know a lot about the P19 as he had the pure form years ago. Hope all this helps. I actually started writing this yesterday and got busy and had to work all day so I just got to finishing this response up. Hope we still can get that crazy P19 to pop up for us 1 day. GL in your hunt and take care 1

P.S. I may hit you up if you still wanna talk BH later.

Thank you so much for all that information! That was very helpful!

 

[Swampwater]

I have 50 Blockhead IBL seeds and am only looking for info of Blockhead IBL. Not sure if your Blockhead F2's came from grindhouse but there are no F2's of IBL's. The breeding between the same IBL line still results in an IBL and not F2.

My apologies, I didn't see that you already had the seeds. My f2's came from genehtik(from original f1 stock from Steve), completely unrelated to grind house.
Here's a thread detailing the parents/pheno selections/breeding used along the way to make those GrindHouse ibls-

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=24871

Searching 'blockhead' in the title search feature will reveal lots of BH info. Good luck in your p19 search, looking forward to seeing what you find.

 

[Snype]

My apologies, I didn't see that you already had the seeds. My f2's came from genehtik(from original f1 stock from Steve), completely unrelated to grind house.
Here's a thread detailing the parents/pheno selections/breeding used along the way to make those GrindHouse ibls-

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=24871

Searching 'blockhead' in the title search feature will reveal lots of BH info. Good luck in your p19 search, looking forward to seeing what you find.

Ive read everything on IC about Blockhead IBL. The information is lacking for how many packs got sold. Unless I can find proof of how this release is poor within 30 days, i will be germinating them to find out myself. I got a good feeling that im going to find a gem somewhere in there. Time will tell.

 

[Steele Savage]

Good afternoon Snype,
I think you'll find a fistfull of specimens to work with for your projects. The Prophet, Mob Boss and Ultra Sonja a proof of their combining ability. The IBL was pheno-etically bred for the sativa, treble frequency, paranoia type high. Though the dont produce ''blockhead'' type buds, again, the goal was to isolate the sativa used in the original cross, not just produce something that looks like it but didnt carry the effect. Nothing in my help desk has been deleted, so i have no idea what.gs is saying, though the fella has an ax to grind, lol. Any specific question i can answer?

Peace be with you,
Steele

 

[Snype]

Good afternoon Snype,
I think you'll find a fistfull of specimens to work with for your projects. The Prophet, Mob Boss and Ultra Sonja a proof of their combining ability. The IBL was pheno-etically bred for the sativa, treble frequency, paranoia type high. Though the dont produce ''blockhead'' type buds, again, the goal was to isolate the sativa used in the original cross, not just produce something that looks like it but didnt carry the effect. Nothing in my help desk has been deleted, so i have no idea what.gs is saying, though the fella has an ax to grind, lol. Any specific question i can answer?

Peace be with you,
Steele

Thanks Steele! I've read everything about it in your threads. My questions lie more with individual grows that aren't affiliated with companies. If I listened to the owners of every company, I wouldn't make good decisions on which beans to pop because the company is going to hype their brand up in the process. I still have a good feeling about these and I'm going to start some. I guess if I do have a question, it would be:

Is it pointless to pop 50 of these if it is a true IBL because I can just pop a few to find what I'm looking for?

How could you compare the potency to either the Sour Diesel or Chemdog D? (I know the Blockhead is a Sativa but how potent is the IBL compared to any of those 2 strains listed or what can you compare it too that most people have sampled?