Is there really such a thing as a cut only strain?

[anon0988]

Title says it all. Couldn't you just use the colloidal silver method to produce fem seeds from such a strain? Is cut only like a fluke in a certain gene pool that hasn't been stabilized as a breed or something? Aren't the seeds produced by CS method clones as far as genetics from the mother plant? Sorry if this is a newb question but I live in an area where I can't get cuts and have always had to start from seed, so the whole concept of 'cut only' strains seems crazy.

 

[MagniKhan]

Title says it all. Couldn't you just use the colloidal silver method to produce fem seeds from such a strain? Is cut only like a fluke in a certain gene pool that hasn't been stabilized as a breed or something? Aren't the seeds produced by CS method clones as far as genetics from the mother plant? Sorry if this is a newb question but I live in an area where I can't get cuts and have always had to start from seed, so the whole concept of 'cut only' strains seems crazy.

When selecting a mother plant (say in this case out of a 10pk of seeds) first your going to get some males, so let say you have 5 females.
Out of those five female's you will most likely see some differences, one may be a little taller or bushier, or a little better smoke OR A LOT BETTER, I MEAN LIKE A WHOLE NEW BALL GAME BETTER.....variation depends on the breading.
So for those that use a mother plant the whole lot better one is like a lotto win.
Think of this way, just because the parents are the same doesn't make all the children the same. It also works that way with inbreeding, only all kinds of bad shit can (and usually does) happen. It's very unlikely that you could get the "hermi" tightened up enough to make it all the way though flower with out going bat shit with nanners.
I've been gifted some pre98 Bubba that I'm running for the first time at about 33 days.....CAN'T WAIT, not just what I've been told ..but what I've read, it's a whole different critter! Google her, she's been "gifted" since the 90's!

I have a c99BX1 that is kind of special to me, I almost over looked her, some of her sisters looked better...till I found out how to treat her and HOW LONG to RUN her...8wks, ok.....9wks...it speaks to you, it says " SIT THE FUCK DOWN.....HOPE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY THING YOU NEEDED TO DO...."

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

Its like you think, its a phenotype that was found in a strain that was or wasn't stabilized. If you use CS it will not make a exact copy but only open up the gene pool that created it showing several phenotypes to a few depending on the stability/work put into it.

 

[fatigues]

Title says it all. Couldn't you just use the colloidal silver method to produce fem seeds from such a strain? Is cut only like a fluke in a certain gene pool that hasn't been stabilized as a breed or something? Aren't the seeds produced by CS method clones as far as genetics from the mother plant? Sorry if this is a newb question but I live in an area where I can't get cuts and have always had to start from seed, so the whole concept of 'cut only' strains seems crazy.

Using colloidal silver to self? In theory - yes; in practice - usually, yes.

Most "cut only" strains are "cut only" because the grower who has it doesn't want to let the strain out to others via seed -- (and often not even by clone, for that matter. e.g. Bullrider)

Moreover, many (if not most) growers don't particularly trust colloidal silver and don't want pollen fucking up their grow even if they do trust it. All of which is quite understandable.

Many indoor grows are grown under taxing conditions with limited space. When you start letting cannabis pollen into your home -- any part of your home -- you run a real risk that the pollen will spread to your flowering room. Many do not want to take that risk.

 

[Marco61]

Using colloidal silver to self? In theory - yes; in practice - usually, yes.

Most "cut only" strains are "cut only" because the grower who has it doesn't want to let the strain out to others via seed -- (and often not even by clone, for that matter. e.g. Bullrider)

Moreover, many (if not most) growers don't particularly trust colloidal silver and don't want pollen fucking up their grow even if they do trust it. All of which is quite understandable.

Many indoor grows are grown under taxing conditions with limited space. When you start letting cannabis pollen into your home -- any part of your home -- you run a real risk that the pollen will spread to your flowering room. Many do not want to take that risk.

The risk isn't really that high. Cannabis pollen sitting around the home in a way not designed to preserve it will not be viable for very long. Its fragile stuff. Proper growroom hygiene and hepa filtering on male / breeding rooms will keep it from spreading into sensimilla grows.

 

[Phillthy]

think of selfing as breeding a plant to its genetic equal. there are still millions of possibilities from this combo so no, it would not be the same as a clone.

 

[dank.frank]

Even more simply - your mom and dad screwed - you have a two brothers and a sister. Are any of them alike...identically? Your siblings get married and have kids - are those kids exactly like them...or like their grandparents...EXACTLY...

Genetics are genetics...doesn't matter what field or spectrum you analyze...there are variables and all sorts of graphs and equations that attempt to explain how DNA is passed down from one generation to the next and how it resurfaces again in later generations.

Your basic question, just requires a greater understanding of biological happenstance.

And fatigues - with all respect - you are completely wrong. How many seed lines have been made with Chem D - and how many elite clones do you see being held and passed that are from such breeding efforts vs. those in still in pursuit / only grow the original clone. There is a reason for that...

To say, simply because you use a certain parent that the offspring will be a direct representation of...is entirely false. It really does take a TON of work to get a 1:1 representation of something...and when working with two poly-hybrid lines - just this side of impossible....that's just the reality of things...

Clones are clones - because people understand how hard it is to re-find such a plant. It is why they are preserved in the first place. Do some research and learn how many fruit varieties are kept alive simply by grafting vs planting seeds...that should open your eyes a bit to how variable genetics are...in ALL things...



dank.Frank