High Brix soil grow

[BugJar]

Both molasses and kelp are high in potassium, the lab guys advised low levels of it not elimanate it to obtain higher brix, they recommend using kelp and molasses just sparingly at soil level. Foliar using. Amaze and PGR which is pure kelp is best along with dextrose. As i have been told too much molasses makes the soil slodiers lazy, give yhem just enough to keep them happy so they can still chomp and break down other needed amended nuted.

I cant speak for molasses making them lazy but I can confirm that when you feed bacteria simple sugar they can have a tougher time eating the more complex stuff afterwords.

that knowledge applies to brewing though so the soil changes that quite a bit I would imagine as the organisms have a MUCH longer life.

always something new to consider I suppose

 

[Cep]

All this talk about too much potassium preventing high brix plants has me a bit worried. Is 416ppm of Potassium going to prevent me from reaching 15 brix, despite that level only being 6.5% of base cation saturation (close to Albrecht's suggestion)?

 

[EclipseFour20]

Kelp--which has negligible NPK #s is great for micronutes, but are we talking about "kelp meal" (which takes 4+ months to breakdown), "kelp powder"--or "liquid kelp" (which both take 0-1 month to breakdown)? Big difference.

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but are there any studies that correlate "kelp" and "change in brix"? I am unaware of any--and have been searching.

Thanks.

 

[budrunners]

Thanks for sharing your information, I can only say this applies to TOMATOES, BERRIES and AROMATIC HERBS. I dont know of any agricultural labs that could or can tell me what recommendations for high brix amendments for MJ. This is a start and I have no complaints. If your plants are doing well with whatever you are currently using I would say keep doing it.
I would really like to come across scientific information that is accurate that is MJ specific to what levels of nutes are needed to achieve highest possible brix. Again no complaints from what I have

peace

 

[vince8151]

Hi everyone, just signed up and spotted this thread.

I recently finished a High Brix grow and it more then doubled my yield.

I bought a kit of amendments to add to a bale of Pro Mix HP.

Generally I have about a 90% success rate cloning vegged plants and about a 75% success rate cloning flowering plants.

Using High Brix I hit 99% success for both.

It's really no more difficult to grow this way if you're taking good care of your plants anyway.

Over the next few weeks, I'll try and show photos as the H B grow was done immediately after a grow with more conventional methods and I photographed everything (I'm really busy).

As far as the wash goes; I seriously recommend at least trying it.
It's kind of a pain but it is worth it.

I washed and smoked samples (2 other people did too) for about 2 weeks.
After that, we smoked UN-washed samples for about 2 weeks.

We could tell a big difference in taste and before you rule it out, I strongly suggest you give washing a try. The recipe I used was about 1.875 cups of lemon juice and 3.75 cups of baking soda in 5 gallons of water.

Dip your branch in the mix and thrash it around a bit then dip it in another bucket of clean water then another bucket of clean water. Lightly pat it dry and it's ready to hang like you usually do.
If you do 4 or 5 plants at one time, the water looks like you just washed your dog.

You can do a plant or two at a time or as many as you want.

Any questions, I'll be glad to answer.

v

P.S. I had some left over High Brix soil so I'm doing a side by side with tomato plants. The High Brix plants have TRIPLE the amount of tomatoes growing that the plant grown conventionally has.

P.S.S. The reason I switched to High Brix was because I wasn't satisfied with the yield I was getting. Quality and taste was okay but that improved immensely too.

 

[ghostmade]

bump

 

[SpicySativa]

This thread reminds me of trying to read the label on a Dr. Bronners bottle...

If the moon lines up just right with the phosphorus, listen to the mysterious man in the lab coat and dunk you buds in lemon juice.

Hokay....

 

[Cep]

I washed and smoked samples (2 other people did too) for about 2 weeks.
After that, we smoked UN-washed samples for about 2 weeks.

We could tell a big difference in taste and before you rule it out, I strongly suggest you give washing a try. The recipe I used was about 1.875 cups of lemon juice and 3.75 cups of baking soda in 5 gallons of water.

What do you think you are washing off? Is this an indoor grown plant? If so I can't imagine they are collecting a ton of dust.

Anyhow I've hit 17 brix outside, despite my soil being high in K compared to P. Here is a pic of the tested plant:

There are guys getting brix readings just above 20 though. I'd be curious to see the results of a soil test from their plots.

 

[anonymousgrow]

Why would dipping my buds in lemon juice and baking soda water be a good thing? Seems akin to boiling rootballs etc

 

[SpicySativa]

Why would dipping my buds in lemon juice and baking soda water be a good thing? Seems akin to boiling rootballs etc

And patting them dry after dunking? Have you ever looked at a bid under a microscope after you've touched it? All your trichomes will be burst apart and stuck to whatever you're drying with and your buds will be linty...

 

[anonymousgrow]

Hi everyone, just signed up and spotted this thread.

I recently finished a High Brix grow and it more then doubled my yield.

I bought a kit of amendments to add to a bale of Pro Mix HP.

Generally I have about a 90% success rate cloning vegged plants and about a 75% success rate cloning flowering plants.

Using High Brix I hit 99% success for both.

It's really no more difficult to grow this way if you're taking good care of your plants anyway.

Over the next few weeks, I'll try and show photos as the H B grow was done immediately after a grow with more conventional methods and I photographed everything (I'm really busy).

As far as the wash goes; I seriously recommend at least trying it.
It's kind of a pain but it is worth it.

I washed and smoked samples (2 other people did too) for about 2 weeks.
After that, we smoked UN-washed samples for about 2 weeks.

We could tell a big difference in taste and before you rule it out, I strongly suggest you give washing a try. The recipe I used was about 1.875 cups of lemon juice and 3.75 cups of baking soda in 5 gallons of water.

Dip your branch in the mix and thrash it around a bit then dip it in another bucket of clean water then another bucket of clean water. Lightly pat it dry and it's ready to hang like you usually do.
If you do 4 or 5 plants at one time, the water looks like you just washed your dog.

You can do a plant or two at a time or as many as you want.

Any questions, I'll be glad to answer.

v

P.S. I had some left over High Brix soil so I'm doing a side by side with tomato plants. The High Brix plants have TRIPLE the amount of tomatoes growing that the plant grown conventionally has.

P.S.S. The reason I switched to High Brix was because I wasn't satisfied with the yield I was getting. Quality and taste was okay but that improved immensely too.

Did I miss something? Are people starting to refer to a style of growing as high brix growing? or a high brix soil mix? Is this another ROLS? This post makes me think that.

High brix soil; so you are measuring brix content in your soil, seem like you might have missed something.

If i understand this post; then i say perhaps you need to stop looking for a recipe to follow and learn a bit about biology.

 

[xmobotx]

and why not?

ROLS is like rodale et al: add copious amounts of compost and the soil will take care of itself

high brix could represent the canna grow method applying more albrecht/reams et al: mineral balancing, soil testing {kind of like chem growing w/ organics}

High brix soil; so you are measuring brix content in your soil, seem like you might have missed something.

yeah it bears clarifying that "high brix soil" is something of a misnomer

 

[EclipseFour20]

Xmo-
Sometimes, it is cheaper/efficient to "use new" than to "re-use". My custom grow medium cost is sooo low, it actually will cost me more to "re-use" it...especially after one considers the space required (foot print), cost of consumables, and the cost to test/verify the grow medium's #s (both elements/minerals and bacteria).

Just saying...sometimes what sounds good and honorable, may not always be the "best".

Cheers!

 

[Chr0nicles]

Hey there, been gone for a bit but now I'm back again! My last run in my reused and adjusted soil had a brix averaging between 22-28 (with a very blurry blue line!). Here is a picture of my soil report from a run or two before (right when I got the results I added an appropriate amount of Oyster Shell Flour and other things, and the extra Ca really helps a LOT. My brix [and yield!] has gone up again now that the calcium is available to the bed from that earlier addition). Note the TCEC and Organic Matter content ;o)

 

[xmobotx]

i take it you addressed your boron, manganese, copper & zinc then?

 

[Cougartex]

been obsessed with high brix growing and have been doing it for a year. i recently joined this forum but got my info from another guy on a different site. im subbed to see what this be. keep em frosty gentlemen.

 

[Cougartex]

As far as washing the bud... Why not? That's what most people do after they harvest anything for consumption. Cleaner medicine. Cleaner concentrates. Sounds better to me.

 

[supermanlives]

highest to date 17, my plants test at 16 to 19. well which one is it?

 

[waktoo]

Hey, all. Can anyone recommend a good quality refractometer? I don't know enough about them to know what to look for.

 

[paint4420]

On the topic of amending soil after lab results. How would I be sure im getting in the right amount of trace minerals and other major ones? Besides testing and retesting. Ive seen doc buds packet of amendments for pro mix. This gets you to acceptable ratios obviously and seems pretty cheap. I just think its more important to know how to.do it on your own. Hence the question. Will the conversion table for lbs/acre cover this? And once I know how much I need to add for each amendment do I just add in the specific type at that amount or should I use diffrent fertilizers high in each that I need. However I would imagine this would throw of the other ratios.