Is there a basic recipe for oil that will work in basic carts?

[Swampdankv2]

There is so much information, and unfortunately contradiction, regarding how to make such and oil that will remain fluid at room temp. I am trying to get a method together that can prefill carts like the ones below that I can then package.

I am digesting a lot of information slowly but it seem most are still experimenting.

Here's a pic of the cart style we here at the swamp are interested in mass filling.

I know this isn't the greatest setup for vaping oil but it's what most of the folks around these parts have and they are used to the RemPen type oil carts.

I NEED TO MAKE THE SHiT THAT COMES IN THOSE.

SD

 

[funkfingers]

pretty sure you make bho and mix with propylene glycol, polyethylene glycol 400, and or vegetable glycerin till you get the desired consistency.

 

[Bigj15971597]

I use the oil strait. It works just fine.

 

[pappy masonjar]

^^^ Ive done this. i mixed some iso (im sure bho would be better) with a couple drops of propylene glycol (available at tractor supply). It should be mixed in a shot glasses that is sitting in hot water on the stove. Mix till consistent, suck it up in a syringe, and yer good to fill

I was pointing at f.f.'s post.

bigj-how do you get the oil in there?

 

[Kush Technician]

supposed to be able to use straight ethanol in a 1:1 ratio of ml's ethanol to tenth's of a gram bho. Once I find a source for 96% ethanol I will try, just picked up some tanks and extra batteries to play around with. I have heard that glycerin and pg separate from the bho and are too viscous.

 

[pappy masonjar]

supposed to be able to use straight ethanol in a 1:1 ratio of ml's ethanol to tenth's of a gram bho. Once I find a source for 96% ethanol I will try, just picked up some tanks and extra batteries to play around with. I have heard that glycerin and pg separate from the bho and are too viscous.

I had heard that too. however in my experience, (i used qwiso) i mixed a few drops of p.g. to approx 1.2 ml oil in a shot glass sittin in hot water. I stirred for 10 min. and quickly got it into the cartridge. It Never seperated, i waited for it too, but it didnt.

Also, if your lookin for 96% ethnol, maybe organic grape alcohol (98%) would be better. It comes highly recommend. Its natural and just as strong. organic alcohol.com

 

[Swampdankv2]

I looked up that organic alcohol site. Gonna grab a gallon of either the cane or grape alcohol.

So, from what I gather, it's a better idea to dissolve the oil, wax, etc into ethanol, then add that to the propylene glycol? Then what? Evaporate the alcohol away and what's left should be infused. Is this correct? Am I missing something?

 

[Gray Wolf]

I looked up that organic alcohol site. Gonna grab a gallon of either the cane or grape alcohol.

So, from what I gather, it's a better idea to dissolve the oil, wax, etc into ethanol, then add that to the propylene glycol? Then what? Evaporate the alcohol away and what's left should be infused. Is this correct? Am I missing something?

No PP. The ethanol thins the oil enough to inject into the cart.

You can warm it up and do the same thing.

 

[Swampdankv2]

No PP. The ethanol thins the oil enough to inject into the cart.

You can warm it up and do the same thing.

I tried heating it a little and I got the oil in to the cart, but once it cooled down, it wouldn't work in that cart. I need to keep it fluid I guess. The wick won't suck it up.

 

[pappy masonjar]

I looked up that organic alcohol site. Gonna grab a gallon of either the cane or grape alcohol.

So, from what I gather, it's a better idea to dissolve the oil, wax, etc into ethanol, then add that to the propylene glycol? Then what? Evaporate the alcohol away and what's left should be infused. Is this correct? Am I missing something?

The grape alcohol i recommend is for winterazation and making oil into a more pure form.
But for what your talking about, I personally used no ethanol, i put a blob of super thick iso in a shot glass. The shot glass was sitting in a pot of hot water (not boiling, itll start to burn the oil), once the thick oil started becoming more fluid, i added the p.g.. I then stirred this rapidly (with the shot glass still sitting in the hot water) for about ten min. I then sucked it up in a needless syringe, and filled the carts. It never seperated. I want to stress though, that i am in no way a proffesional of any kind. I have just started playin with these e ciggy thinggs. Also, the first time i did it, i added to much p.g. and it turned out weak. I thought i needed a lot or it would seperate. The next run i used minimal p.g. and it never seperated and was more potent. But please, experiment with small amounts, I dont want you to be pissed at me if it doesnt work to your expectations. But i dont see why it wouldnt work for u. l have also have never refilled a cart. I buy empty carts. I dont think that really matters though. Im gonna try and figure out how to post pics tommorow (too busy today). so i can show the exact carts and oil i use.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, the organic grape alcohol is also great just for making oil too. Its like 98%. so its just as strong isopropyl and much better imo.

 

[lloyd_christmas]

Get an ego-c battery and kanger 510 carts. Take out the cotton insert in the carts and melt in the oil around the plastic tube. I'd take that over thinning my oil out to some bullshit any day of the week.

Or just get a gpen mini, I've sold a ton of those things and the only complaints were from when they eventually burn out, which is to be expected. They are good with any shatters or waxes. Overpriced but worth the money. Was just ripping one at a restaurant with friends the other day.

 

[pappy masonjar]

ive been wanting to know how to use straight oil. I wasnt sure how to get it in and was worried when it cooled it would clog or somethin. def worth giving a try though. thanks bro

 

[lloyd_christmas]

The kanger carts are metal. You spin them at an angle over a lighter to heat up and drip the oil it, it will run down the side of the cart to fill it up.

Gpens or atmos' are still better. They have coils that the oil heats up directly on, not a true vape but they give a way better hit.

 

[Gray Wolf]

I tried heating it a little and I got the oil in to the cart, but once it cooled down, it wouldn't work in that cart. I need to keep it fluid I guess. The wick won't suck it up.

Try a 510 cart with the polyfil removed, or check out the cheeep carts made specifically for dabs. We've recently tested four or five different ones that worked well. IE Gpen and Atmos

 

[DinosaurCocks]

i was thinking if you made a glycerin extraction the glycerin could then be used to make oil that would work in a standard e-cig...i mean there are recipes online to make your own tobacco type e-cig oil with glycerin, right? so couldn't you just swap out the plain glycerin in the recipe for bho infused glycerin?

 

[Gray Wolf]

You can use a standard glycerin extraction in a wick type e-pen and they work.

They don't work as well as a straight oil, with nothing adulterating it. You can get e-pen skillets made specifically for straight oil, so no real reason to make your own from a system designed to liquid.

We have 6 such systems that we are currently trying out, and they all work.

 

[marbles]

These little fuckers work great. I can take choker rips off these pens. - http://www.ovaleusa.com/shop/elips-C

 

[Swampdankv2]

These little fuckers work great. I can take choker rips off these pens. - http://www.ovaleusa.com/shop/elips-C

We have been eyeing the vaped micro glass globe dig. Idk. Need more field testing.

 

[Gray Wolf]

We've been testing pens donated by Headie Designs and I'll publish the results soon, but here are the ones with oil skillets, which we just finished testing:

I brief, they all gave good hits, with some fussier than others.

The purdy flat one was handy, but kept coming apart in my pocket and was hard to separate the skillet half after a bit of gumming up.

The purdy blue one works well, but has a button that is hard to find by feel.

The tall one has variable voltage, which could come in handy, but hasn't yet.

The globe is fun to watch, and it works well. I did break the first globe removing it, so some finesse is required to win.

The little skinny silver one has no frills and just works.

I like the three or four hit skillets better than 510 carts holding more, because the lighter constitutes vaporize away first, leaving the heavier intensely phenolic tasting elements behind for subsequent puffs.