BullnAChinaShop
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I doubt Obama will publicly support any kind of decriminalization/rescheduling until the UN gets on board. There are international treaties at play here.
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Dr. Sanjay Gupta changes his tune
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intl. treaties initially enforced and placed by the U.S to begin with...
Gupta is nothing more then a media puppet...
Cannfucious
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The Media is what moves mountains though, so regardless of HOW we get there, we just need to get THERE 
The doctor's article was excellent, but CNN continues their with their blatant propaganda with obvious fear mongering. The doctor's story was grouped in with absolute trash by CNN.
I am still just amazed at some of the mainstream propaganda crap that some "news" outlets like CNN spreads, even amid so much factual scientific data as the good doctor so eloquently pointed out. If someone reads just headlines, like a lot of people actually do when they are faced with so much "news" these days, then they just read
"Smoking pot is just about 'getting high'
An addiction expert warns that legalizing marijuana is like "using gasoline to put out a fire."
They will of course think, "Well, that's bad. No way they should legalize it, ever. Good thing that shit is Schedule I. It should remain there."
Please tell me that is not as misleading and blatant propaganda as "Reefer Madness" was, actually worse.
The madness now is realizing that is just another one in that long list of transparent bullshit and fear mongering the American public has been spoon fed the last 70 years. Good job by CNN for once again proving they are just a voice of mainstream/propaganda/big money bullshit. Thank you so much. At least they are consistent in being full of crap.
I am still just amazed at some of the mainstream propaganda crap that some "news" outlets like CNN spreads, even amid so much factual scientific data as the good doctor so eloquently pointed out. If someone reads just headlines, like a lot of people actually do when they are faced with so much "news" these days, then they just read
"Smoking pot is just about 'getting high'
An addiction expert warns that legalizing marijuana is like "using gasoline to put out a fire."
They will of course think, "Well, that's bad. No way they should legalize it, ever. Good thing that shit is Schedule I. It should remain there."
Please tell me that is not as misleading and blatant propaganda as "Reefer Madness" was, actually worse.
The madness now is realizing that is just another one in that long list of transparent bullshit and fear mongering the American public has been spoon fed the last 70 years. Good job by CNN for once again proving they are just a voice of mainstream/propaganda/big money bullshit. Thank you so much. At least they are consistent in being full of crap.
he has a special this Sunday about cannabis and it good effects 
Does anyone find it coincidental that the Obama admin is considering a change to treat "addicts" rather then imprison them, with this fellows statement that 9-10% ( ? ) of weed users become dependent on it? Is that a sign of what's to come?
holder is also supposed to release new "sentencing guidelines" soon, I'm sorry I do not have a link to the article but in one of the newspapers it was listed right next to this story and I just lol.
I want to think positive, I want to think positive, but..........
holder is also supposed to release new "sentencing guidelines" soon, I'm sorry I do not have a link to the article but in one of the newspapers it was listed right next to this story and I just lol.
I want to think positive, I want to think positive, but..........
Jeez Tudo....then don't jump to conclusions so easily. The health care field has been begging the government to treat drug addiction as a health care problem instead of the very wrong criminal problem it has done through recent history.
Weed, nowadays, (using modern studies) no longer considers weed to be an addictive substance...anymore than sugar and sex are addiction problems. Thats to say its not a problem.
Weed, nowadays, (using modern studies) no longer considers weed to be an addictive substance...anymore than sugar and sex are addiction problems. Thats to say its not a problem.
As much as I hate to admit it I think you might be right. I hate to admit it because I've always liked Dr. Gupta's reporting on medical news and thought better of him. I did however catch another interview he did on CNN with Erin Brown and in that interview he admitted that in the past he's smoked it. Had he never smoked it I might have believed he just trusted the Government had sufficient science backing up it's decision to schedule it the way they did. Having tried it before in the past though and given that his area of expertise is the human brain I find it a little tough to believe he just "trusted" the inf...I mean propaganda out there.
On the other hand I do have to give him credit for how he is presenting things now. I mean he's not just saying "Oh I was wrong, turns out weed is actually good for you" he's also acknowledging that there has been a deliberate effort on the government's part to mislead and misrepresent marijuana and that is big and might even eventually help change the minds of even people that have never tried marijuana but bought into the propaganda hook, line and sinker.
Gupta didn't offer how far in the past he smoked MJ, so it could easily have been the recent past, like after he realized that the DEA has been lying for decades.
Just sayin', ya know?
Gupta is highly influential, so tokers should welcome his new perspective, particularly his renunciation of the DEA.
I don't watch much TV, but I'll be tuned in for his special on weed tomorrow.
I welcome this debate. Although Gupta has said dumb things, and no matter what you personally think about him, he has got this long awaited debate rolling in full mode.
The propaganda machine is also in full swing. Small insignificant things often have snow balled and take on huge unintended consequence. History has shown happen that over and over.
Now one of the main arguments is that cannabis usage in teens causes irreversible brain damage. That all started by a stupid little study in GB that showed a high percentage of around 1600 psychotics said when interviewed they had started smoking weed in their teenage years. So they concluded weed use as teenagers was the a contributing cause? Wait...self medicating? Causation from that? Totally flawed conclusion.
Now that little study with it's flawed conclusion has snowballed into the widely held belief that weed use causes brain damage in teens. Whoa Nelly!
I just don't believe half the crap anyone says about cannabis these days and especially when they say "backed by science". It's ALL bullshit. Just like "Reefer Madness" was, just updated a little to fit the current propagandists demographic they are aiming at.
The propaganda machine is also in full swing. Small insignificant things often have snow balled and take on huge unintended consequence. History has shown happen that over and over.
Now one of the main arguments is that cannabis usage in teens causes irreversible brain damage. That all started by a stupid little study in GB that showed a high percentage of around 1600 psychotics said when interviewed they had started smoking weed in their teenage years. So they concluded weed use as teenagers was the a contributing cause? Wait...self medicating? Causation from that? Totally flawed conclusion.
Now that little study with it's flawed conclusion has snowballed into the widely held belief that weed use causes brain damage in teens. Whoa Nelly!
I just don't believe half the crap anyone says about cannabis these days and especially when they say "backed by science". It's ALL bullshit. Just like "Reefer Madness" was, just updated a little to fit the current propagandists demographic they are aiming at.
..... on the one hand, I just don't like the man - he's an egotistical shill (a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.).
The ONLY reason he's coming out in favor of MMJ NOW is because the tide has already turned and it's safe to do so!
....... but on the other hand, I'm happy to support (use) the man if it furthers MY cause!
The ONLY reason he's coming out in favor of MMJ NOW is because the tide has already turned and it's safe to do so!
....... but on the other hand, I'm happy to support (use) the man if it furthers MY cause!
it's just business ... the cannabis industry will be huge. time to stake a claim, eh?
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's all about the $$$$$$...
Treating drug "addictions" is now a HUGE and growing biz. I'm sure it's worth billions now. And if everyone arrested for drug offenses gets "treatment" instead of incarceration, then that's a huge bonus to that industry.
Since prisons are overflowing now, and the Prison industry is guaranteed to get paid for like 95% occupancy, regardless, they won't lose a dime, either.
Has anyone here had to go thru one of these "treatment" programs? How much did it cost ya? In the thousands for sure...
Remember all those drug counseling programs advertised on CNN? There haven't been many advertised lately. Looks like CNN wants them back.
OH, and everyone take note of the sponsors for Dr. Gupta's special report. That will speak volumes about why the report was made and who expects to benefit from it.
So long as Gupta is telling the truth, I don't care why he's telling it.
A great deal of "rehab" for cannabis is by affluent families who discover that they think little Johnny is a catpiss addict. When they seek out professional advice, they get the hucksters from the for profit clinics who succeed in fear mongering the parents into having little Johnny locked up in their care for a period of time at an exorbitant price.
Despite all the pious pontificating, they're only in it for the money.
Part of what's happened is that when the long accepted scientific definition of "addiction" didn't suit their purposes, they changed the definition to serve their own ends. It probably won't be long until they declare breathing to be an addiction.
No he didn't specify when but the way he replied you could tell he was talking about when he was younger.
Given the major changes that goes on in people during their teen years lots of things can impair development of the brain. It's funny that we freak out over something like teens smoking marijuana but we don't bat an eyelash at the drugs we use to treat things like ADD and such, or anti depressants that we don't fully understand and have side effects of "May cause suicidal thoughts"
Interesting too that recently Holder announced a change to the Minimum Mandatory Sentencing the Feds have been using to encourage snitching. Basically they're not going to practice that policy anymore on small time drug busts with no cartel connections but rather let the states dictate the punishment.
