A perfect cure every time

[rrog]

I used the Bovedas years ago to re-hydrate some dry bud. They had like 70% back then. My concern is the accuracy.

 

[Jhhnn]

Had anyone here used the 62% rh Boveda packs alone for curing (same as the ones in those pricy cvaults)? Looking at this product on their website, it appears they were specifically meant for curing cannabis. Sorry in advance if this has already been brought up, have not read this whole thread.

Yes. They work great in glass jars. The issue is to bring the humidity down into the cure range w/o overshoot, then jar it up with the boveda packs to keep it there. I use the caliber meters to monitor, because the RH in the jars can creep back up as the stems dry out. When that happens, and it has, I spread the product out on a cookie sheet for an hour or so, re-jar with a boveda pack & a meter, wait 'til the next day, see where it's at. YMMV, depending on your local humidity conditions.

Wire bale jars in various sizes are pretty reasonable at my local Container Store location, a helluva lot cheaper than C-Vaults.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I have never tasted a glass cured bud that tasted as good as a 2 week slow dried buds then boxed in shut cardboard boxes for 3 months to cure in a room that is 50%-60% RH. I used to use glass after the cure, but stopped when I realized the vacuum I used to seal the jars was allowing terpenes to be vaporized from the Cannabis. You could see the vapor and smell it when you vacuum sealed the jars. You can flush a jar and contents with nitrogen and seal it without vacuum, the herb will last pretty good at room temperature but not as good as freezing. Freezing is for long term, more then 6 months. In glass jars frozen herb or resin is pretty much the same even after years.

-SamS

 

[Snype]

I have never tasted a glass cured bud that tasted as good as a 2 week slow dried buds then boxed in shut cardboard boxes for 3 months to cure in a room that is 50%-60% RH. I used to use glass after the cure, but stopped when I realized the vacuum I used to seal the jars was allowing terpenes to be vaporized from the Cannabis. You could see the vapor and smell it when you vacuum sealed the jars. You can flush a jar and contents with nitrogen and seal it without vacuum, the herb will last pretty good at room temperature but not as good as freezing. Freezing is for long term, more then 6 months. In glass jars frozen herb or resin is pretty much the same even after years.

-SamS

So true! I've frozen my meds for over 7 years in air sealed glass jars and it was amazing!

 

[rrog]

I used to Vac seal. Then I stopped, and haven't really missed it. Curious, if the bud is dried to ~60% or whatever the Boveda bag is, why leave the Boveda in the jar?

Personally, for me these days I like 60% and below. Especially if vaping. I'm also a guy who likes to distill a process down to the fundamental elements, and I'd (personally) rather not have a bag of plastic emitting I-don't-know-what into my herbs. Please no one take offense. You like the Boveda, then use the Boveda.

 

[rrog]

I used to use glass after the cure, but stopped when I realized the vacuum I used to seal the jars was allowing terpenes to be vaporized from the Cannabis.

Sam- I wonder if you glass cured without the vacuum if the results would match the cardboard. After all, unless the cardboard imparts something to the bud, both processes are still just slowly removing water. Again, assuming neither the glass nor the cardboard are adding anything to the weed, then they are both simply removing water at some rate, down to some %Rh. No?

 

[DHF]

Sam- I wonder if you glass cured without the vacuum if the results would match the cardboard. After all, unless the cardboard imparts something to the bud, both processes are still just slowly removing water. Again, assuming neither the glass nor the cardboard are adding anything to the weed, then they are both simply removing water at some rate, down to some %Rh. No?

After many yrs of chasing the perfect end product , I settled on K.I.S.S......

Once I got down to that "perfect" 62% , my colas were stacked "tops up" in food grade pickle buckets with rubber gaskets and kept in the dark basements I grew in for 4-5 weeks depending on my rotations and the need for available product , but then.....

I pulled my headies from said buckets that got clipped off the stems and went in qt size mason jars and put in suspended animation inside my chest freezer without ever having to worry about the 3 enemies of dope cultivars that degrade THC as well as residual chlorophyll and terpenes/flavors/smell profiles....

Heat , Light , and Air....Rrog.....air inside the jars once frozen was never found to degrade my nugs , but as a rule I rotated headies in and out every 6 months or so , so when Snype says he`s left his shit in the freezer for up to 7 yrs and it came out as fresh as the day it was put in .......

Gotta call em like I see em and say I found a jar of my long lost mex skunk hybrid underneath some of my cured bacon in `09 that was labeled `98 , and it almost brought a tear to my eye...but then I thought , Fuck....

Shit`s gonna be freezer burnt and crumble to dust and then gimme a major headache for smoking shit that`s so old all the goodie would be gone .....needless to say......

It was as fresh as the day it went in said frozen state , and fucked me up beyond what I`d been smoking for several yrs after losin her....that said.....

Just wanted to state that suspended animation works "beyond" expectations indefinitely with properly dried and cured dope.......

Freeze your headie nugs once totally finished guys....You won`t be sorry.....

Peace....DHF..........

 

[Jhhnn]

I have never tasted a glass cured bud that tasted as good as a 2 week slow dried buds then boxed in shut cardboard boxes for 3 months to cure in a room that is 50%-60% RH. I used to use glass after the cure, but stopped when I realized the vacuum I used to seal the jars was allowing terpenes to be vaporized from the Cannabis. You could see the vapor and smell it when you vacuum sealed the jars. You can flush a jar and contents with nitrogen and seal it without vacuum, the herb will last pretty good at room temperature but not as good as freezing. Freezing is for long term, more then 6 months. In glass jars frozen herb or resin is pretty much the same even after years.

-SamS

I agree that vacuum sealing the jars would probably extract terpenes. I don't see how simply sealing them at atmospheric pressure would do the same thing. Here in Denver, RH is often quite low, particularly indoors in the winter. Bud kept in paper or cardboard containers is crispy dry in just a few weeks, unless there's a lot of it. It's impractical to attempt to create a room atmosphere of the right humidity for a few ounces, so airtight containers & boveda packs seem to be the way to go, and work well. Once bud has cured, freezing seems like a good answer- it works for everything else. Well, that's if household production is greater than consumption, not necessarily an easy task with limited state legal grows.

I suspect that boveda packs will work both ways, given the nature of semi permeable membrane tech. People who live in very humid environments can obviously have issues with RH in containers climbing to ambient because of imperfect seal. Boveda packs should counteract that somewhat, absorbing moisture from the air in the container to maintain the designed balance across the membrane.

 

[Pinball Wizard]

Hobby Growers

Hobby Growers

I recommend curing each plant separate in it's own jar(s). This allows you to get to know each girl, separately.

I mean...you already spent months, together

 

[rrog]

Pinball, I agree. I always jar by plant. I also don't mix popcorn with cola, so I'm right there with you.

DHF I completely agree with you and Sam on the freezing thing. I was only asking about the drying process up to freezing.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I have no idea except for scale, my boxes are in a room filled with lots of boxes for 3 months then frozen in glass. But to me the boxed cure taste better then the glass cure. I do not think the cardboard adds anything, it is more likely some of the more volitile terpenes are lost, maybe they are the terpenes that cause you to get laringitis if you smoke uncurred weed, like I used to get every year at harvest time.
I do know that the two cures are not the same.
-SamS

Sam- I wonder if you glass cured without the vacuum if the results would match the cardboard. After all, unless the cardboard imparts something to the bud, both processes are still just slowly removing water. Again, assuming neither the glass nor the cardboard are adding anything to the weed, then they are both simply removing water at some rate, down to some %Rh. No?

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I agree it could be a problem, unless the room is full of boxes. I have zero problems but if you do just construct a room that slows evaporation, it is pretty easy.
-SamS

I agree that vacuum sealing the jars would probably extract terpenes. I don't see how simply sealing them at atmospheric pressure would do the same thing. Here in Denver, RH is often quite low, particularly indoors in the winter. Bud kept in paper or cardboard containers is crispy dry in just a few weeks, unless there's a lot of it. It's impractical to attempt to create a room atmosphere of the right humidity for a few ounces, so airtight containers & boveda packs seem to be the way to go, and work well. Once bud has cured, freezing seems like a good answer- it works for everything else. Well, that's if household production is greater than consumption, not necessarily an easy task with limited state legal grows.

I suspect that boveda packs will work both ways, given the nature of semi permeable membrane tech. People who live in very humid environments can obviously have issues with RH in containers climbing to ambient because of imperfect seal. Boveda packs should counteract that somewhat, absorbing moisture from the air in the container to maintain the designed balance across the membrane.

 

[Jhhnn]

I recommend curing each plant separate in it's own jar(s). This allows you to get to know each girl, separately.

I mean...you already spent months, together

Pinball, I agree. I always jar by plant. I also don't mix popcorn with cola, so I'm right there with you.

DHF I completely agree with you and Sam on the freezing thing. I was only asking about the drying process up to freezing.

I've kinda been doing that. With the strains I've grown so far, there hasn't been any justification to maintain separation once sampling is completed. Putting each plant's buds into polyester mesh bags in a 5 liter jar helps me achieve a uniform cure with less fuss. Once the cure process settles down I've been using separate jars & boveda packs for each. When it's convenient to combine jars of indistinguishable material, I do. I treat the popcorn the same as the larger buds, but tend to consume the popcorn first.

I suppose that's an old hippie affectation. We always ran out at some point or another, black market channels being what they are, so I wanted the last of the stash to be what I considered to be the best of it. We always kept seeds, too. When the stash was gone, we'd resort to what a friend called "the Ukrainian peasant method"- pouring the seeds out on the kitchen table, separating seeds from not seeds, putting together a bowl or two of the latter.

An old friend had a pair of love birds who got a lot of seeds after that process was complete.

The good old days weren't necessarily as good as our memories of them.

 

[Kindest]

Once the stash was gone, we'd resort to what a friend called "the Ukrainian peasant method"- pouring the seeds out on the kitchen table, separating seeds from not seeds, putting together a bowl or two of the latter.

Haha I'm a master of this, but now I have a name for it!

 

[Jhhnn]

I agree it could be a problem, unless the room is full of boxes. I have zero problems but if you do just construct a room that slows evaporation, it is pretty easy.
-SamS

Thanks, Sam. At some point in the not too distant future, I'll have to try your box method. I doubt that I can make it 3 months before getting down to a moisture content where I have to go to the jars, local atmospherics & limited production both working against me. I'd be ecstatic to get a dry pound's worth of buds in a single harvest.

 

[OrganicBuds]

I have a question about the Boveda packs.

The large pack that Amazon sells says it is only good up to 60grams. So in my lb jars, I should put in 7-8 of the packs in? Seems like a lot....

 

[soursmoker]

Idk OB, but thanks for bumping the thread! Reminded me I had some jars open that I need to go close! Haha

 

[OG BURNT UP]

2 large humidipaks for 4-5 gallon container.

 

[rrog]

I'm boycotting Boveda.

 

[sir alex]

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