Biggest extractor?????

[Crooked8]

So imagine you have an endless amount of sugar trim to blast. How big of an extractor is too big? Is there such a thing? If so why? They make 10g capacity or any capacity for that matter. If you ran a 1000g extractor would that get fucked up? Would you just shove a dish under there until its full then keep filling them? I have a 200g one and i only put like 4 oz in there. I get anywhere(depending on trim quality) from 6-16 grams per blast out of that. If i wanted to upgrade to a full lb per blast would that make things harder or easier? I like the idea of once and done.

 

[CarefulGrower]

The mk V Terpenator holds 5lbs according to the site - http://skunkpharmresearch.com/the-mk-v-terpenator-2/

The tamisium site also has a custom 5lb extractor. But the build price of a MK V is cheaper than a medium sized Tamisium.

 

[Crooked8]

That sounds crazy! If only i had 5lbs of sugar trim haha. So i guess the size doesn't effect anything(that not what she said). End product wont change and its just length of time..

 

[Gray Wolf]

I haven't run a 5 pound load yet, but I suspect that the smaller units are easier to precisely control the flow through and are therefore more efficient. Vee shalls see!

 

[Waxmasta Flex]

i want a ten pack holder...

 

[tehmaster]

I've seen a guy use a really big one, you'll need to start buying the butane by units, (a whole box of like , i don't know, 50 cans) It comes in a unit to alot of trendy tobacco stores in non mj states(ask your local waterpipe salesman)
You can actually see the liquid SLOWLY going down through the tube, and can after can being emptied, it's barely making it 6 inches yet. can after can and it finally begins to make it to the end. Funny thing is, he takes it out, agitates the product, and blasts it again. He will blast the tube contents up to 3 times , and that tube-full won't even be the whole batch being run.

Potential problems I have deduced on how big is too big

Usually you'll be blasting the tube with a downward angle? i think so.
so then that makes two problems, one you'll have to be pretty tall. Two it's going to weigh ALOT ,(plus more weight for all the butane, don't forget) be almost frozen and having to be held vertically. You'd need like a stairset and a rig to hold it up in the air.

Another thing to consider is would glass or metal be able to stand up to that much freezing butane, when manufactured in such a large size. The size of the item that is being made of steel /glass can determine some of it's breaking point /hardness/shatter resistant/ cold conducting properties.

This is all hypothetical , i have seen some tubes that are about 3' long , 4' long, and maybe 6' long.

 

[Crooked8]

My 200g(stainless steel) one is 2.5 inches in diameter and 12 inches long. Its on a tripod so it requires no holding. I just sit down in a chair and stick cans in the top. The tripod fits right into most pyrex dishes. I just envisioned one 4ft tall holding about a pound(my 200g really only fits about 112gs of sugar trim that hasnt been ground or broken up). One thats 4ft isnt too bad height wise. That would require 16 cans. Over a case per blast. Jeeez. Still hypothetically it seems like the best way. Maybe ill try and experiment.

 

[tehmaster]

My 200g(stainless steel) one is 2.5 inches in diameter and 12 inches long. Its on a tripod so it requires no holding. I just sit down in a chair and stick cans in the top. The tripod fits right into most pyrex dishes. I just envisioned one 4ft tall holding about a pound(my 200g really only fits about 112gs of sugar trim that hasnt been ground or broken up). One thats 4ft isnt too bad height wise. That would require 16 cans. Over a case per blast. Jeeez. Still hypothetically it seems like the best way. Maybe ill try and experiment.

I'm sure you can make a line graph, the kind where one line goes from Bottom Right to top left, diagonally.
The other starts at bottom left and goes to top right. I can't remember the name, but it's a specific name of a graph. This will show the point where the cost of your butane begins to be more expensive than the product you put in (or your yield, you may have to tweak it but it's a good idea), and used by many businesses to figure out exactly the point where they won't make money making products with multiple different supplies.

It's probably not about money, but if it was you could use line a to represent cost of product(mj) and line b to represent cost of butane.

The y axis would represent cost, the lines going toward the top more with cost. The x axis would be your units ( for example, 1 boxed butane unit can blast 1 lb, ) At some point when those lines intersect, will be the point where the amount of butane you need costs more than the actual product you have.

^this will not perfectly set up a graph, but it's a good idea to be methodical about your finances. As i always say when doing any business, Don't keep up "the books" and you'll lose without even knowing

 

[Gray Wolf]

I've built up to 48", but usually keep them 36" and under for ease of packing and unpacking.

I've made them up to 1 1/2" ID, but found that 1" or smaller for an open column, provides a more efficient extraction, because it is easier to pack consistently and keep the butane from finding the easy way out.

When I was using an open column, I made a wooden clamp to hold the tube, so that weight and fatigue weren't an issue.

 

[TranceAddictT7]

Have you seen the supercritical CO2 extraction machines?

There are even bigger ones than that. Try that on for a size.

 

[CarefulGrower]

Have you researched the costs of a c02 machine?

$59,500, 2.5lb capacity.
$85,000, for 10lbs,
$121,000 for 20lbs.
http://edenlabs.com/equipment/co2-units

The Tamisium is $25k for a 1kg (2.2lbs) extractor. 1/2 the price. And the Terpenator build lists are free, and would run under 10k.

Oh and 'solvent' free is iffy with c02. Most tut's I've seen feature Ethyl Alcohol to clean it up, and supercritical c02 is a solvent itself from my reading - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercritical_carbon_dioxide

 

[Crooked8]

Have you researched the costs of a c02 machine?

$59,500, 2.5lb capacity.
$85,000, for 10lbs,
$121,000 for 20lbs.
http://edenlabs.com/equipment/co2-units

The Tamisium is $25k for a 1kg (2.2lbs) extractor. 1/2 the price. And the Terpenator build lists are free, and would run under 10k.

Oh and 'solvent' free is iffy with c02. Most tut's I've seen feature Ethyl Alcohol to clean it up, and supercritical c02 is a solvent itself from my reading - http://en. wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercritical_carbon_dioxide

Wish i was on that level haha

 

[TranceAddictT7]

Have you researched the costs of a c02 machine?

$59,500, 2.5lb capacity.
$85,000, for 10lbs,
$121,000 for 20lbs.
http://edenlabs.com/equipment/co2-units

The Tamisium is $25k for a 1kg (2.2lbs) extractor. 1/2 the price. And the Terpenator build lists are free, and would run under 10k.

Oh and 'solvent' free is iffy with c02. Most tut's I've seen feature Ethyl Alcohol to clean it up, and supercritical c02 is a solvent itself from my reading - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercritical_carbon_dioxide

I knew they were pricey. I only mentioned them because they are some of the biggest extraction machines I know of, not as a viable means of extracting thc. That Tamisum will be going on my shopping list.

 

[CarefulGrower]

I knew they were pricey. I only mentioned them because they are some of the biggest extraction machines I know of, not as a viable means of extracting thc. That Tamisum will be going on my shopping list.

I'd bet you could get a local source to source/build a Terpenator cheaper than a Tanisium, if you weren't interested in building it yourself. Even paying 1-2k in labour for a medium sized unit to be built you could save some good money.

I personally would have hesitations about assembling a closed loop extractor, but many others don't.

 

[Crooked8]

I'd bet you could get a local source to source/build a Terpenator cheaper than a Tanisium, if you weren't interested in building it yourself. Even paying 1-2k in labour for a medium sized unit to be built you could save some good money.

I personally would have hesitations about assembling a closed loop extractor, but many others don't.

They would make me nervous also. Plus, has anyone blazed any co2 extracts that matched high quality properly purged butane extract? I have not.