differentiating light intensities throught the day.

[LiquidWarlock]

so i have a question, and to solve it im running a mini expierement of sorts.
if all checks out i will posts all the pictures and info i gather.
id also like opinions and comments from the cool people of IC

heres my thoughts

obviously plants need 12/12 for flower(excluding auto's, of course) and 24/0 18/6 or something similar for veg. what if i were to give a plant that is on a 12/inside the grow box(150whps from htg)and 12 outside the box, but under significantly lower lighting.
do you think id hermie, stretch?
so far all seems like regular 24/0 with 150w, than again it was a clone from a now soon to harvest female from seed.

plants get varied lighting intensities through the day, morning and evening being very little light, and the peak being around noonish depending on location and topography.

heres my hypothesis-
running a plant 12hr under 150w and 12hr under < 80 watts will neither impair the growth nor increase the growth substantially.

going to run two plants only (space is an issue)

but the objective is to see if growers can grow on even less natural resources while still remaining hidden indoors.

its all about that footprint, because the money to run two 150w hps is really a non issue, like, 10 bucks maybe lol

stick around guys, ill let you know, unfortunatly not ever near a camera, so pics will be limited.

note
im using clones because i have access only to bagseed, and dont want to run a bunch, and cant risk males slowing me down.
so clones from a female non hermie

 

[LiquidWarlock]

both clones look identical. so far lighting intensities at different times doesnt seem to have much negative or positive feedback.

im also curious as to if ambient light room is enough to complete the 12/12 since its enough to cause hermies...

 

[foomar]

Far from cool , but but this is what i have found.

They should stay in veg mode and not hermi , if they do then i would bin them , they may do the same in mid flower just when you think its safe.

Normally the internode lengthens and they can get thin stemmed and lanky , which is sometimes an advantage if after cuts from a less branching indica.

The plant reacts very fast to the lower light level as if it were being shaded out by competitors , its enougth to lengthen cells and add a little stretch to a vigorous young plant every cycle.


Vegging now by moveing from sodium floweroom to indirect sunlight to get 20 ish hours of light in total , its not doing any harm but a bit stretchy compared to the same plants in 18+ hours of halide.

That is comparable to what you are doing in light level change.

 

[LiquidWarlock]

Far from cool , but but this is what i have found.

They should stay in veg mode and not hermi , if they do then i would bin them , they may do the same in mid flower just when you think its safe.

Normally the internode lengthens and they can get thin stemmed and lanky , which is sometimes an advantage if after cuts from a less branching indica.

The plant reacts very fast to the lower light level as if it were being shaded out by competitors , its enougth to lengthen cells and add a little stretch to a vigorous young plant every cycle.


Vegging now by moveing from sodium floweroom to indirect sunlight to get 20 ish hours of light in total , its not doing any harm but a bit stretchy compared to the same plants in 18+ hours of halide.

That is comparable to what you are doing in light level change.

very interesting. i figured someone with more gunjknowledge would chime in.
if this is the case i might start doing this with all of my ladies as an attempt to quell my coal usage.

thanks for the input

 

[LiquidWarlock]

Far from cool , but but this is what i have found.

They should stay in veg mode and not hermi , if they do then i would bin them , they may do the same in mid flower just when you think its safe.

Normally the internode lengthens and they can get thin stemmed and lanky , which is sometimes an advantage if after cuts from a less branching indica.

The plant reacts very fast to the lower light level as if it were being shaded out by competitors , its enougth to lengthen cells and add a little stretch to a vigorous young plant every cycle.


Vegging now by moveing from sodium floweroom to indirect sunlight to get 20 ish hours of light in total , its not doing any harm but a bit stretchy compared to the same plants in 18+ hours of halide.

That is comparable to what you are doing in light level change.

foomar, that black geisha project seems pretty cool to me.

 

[Devilman]

heres my thoughts

obviously plants need 12/12 for flower(excluding auto's, of course) and 24/0 18/6 or something similar for veg.

Its worth noting that this is not actually true... plants do not require 12/12 for flowering, its more to do with ratio of light / dark hours..

This is why some people have done test grows with lighting schedules of 7/5 (twice the daily light cycles in any 1 24hr period) and have no issues with the plants stressing out or hermie'ing due to the unsual lighting schedule.

 

[foomar]

plants do not require 12/12 for flowering, its more to do with ratio of light / dark hours..

12/12 works well for most plants and a mixed floweroom , but individuals and monocrops could do better with different settings.

Have used some odd settings for experiment and by accident , can flower between 14/10 and 10/14 with no problems with stable lines , but 12/12 works fine and is easiest to work with.

Am interested in trying 7/5 or similar to confuse the smart meters comeing here soon , in case that becomes a real issue sometime.

 

[LiquidWarlock]

Its worth noting that this is not actually true... plants do not require 12/12 for flowering, its more to do with ratio of light / dark hours..

This is why some people have done test grows with lighting schedules of 7/5 (twice the daily light cycles in any 1 24hr period) and have no issues with the plants stressing out or hermie'ing due to the unsual lighting schedule.

touchee'

im obviously amoung some well versed cannafans

 

[RonSmooth]

Flowering is induced when a hormone that builds up in dark periods is allowed to reach critical level. The flowering hormone is always being produced at "night". It stops and levels drop when the lights come on.


At least this is my understanding.