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Crohn's disease & Cannabis
- Thread starter OakyJoe
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Hey,
What you think about to 'cure' it with Cannabis in young ages?
I know that smoking increase my CD and decrease my healthy, so i'm smoking pure and try to get a vaporizer. Tabacco is a real nogo, the day after my stomak hurt so much...
Do you got any experience?
What you think about to 'cure' it with Cannabis in young ages?
I know that smoking increase my CD and decrease my healthy, so i'm smoking pure and try to get a vaporizer. Tabacco is a real nogo, the day after my stomak hurt so much...
Do you got any experience?
I have plenty of experience, here are some tips.
There is no cure to Crohn's. Crohn's is an auto-immune disorder.....like MS, Colitis, Psoriasis, etc. You can help suppress it's expression, inflammation, and progression though. Pharmaceutical meds try to do this, either through anti-inflammatory measures, anticholinergics, steroids, or immuno-suppression. Some work better then others, but the stronger ones often have very, very serious side effects. The stronger immuno-suppresant meds can/often will lead to some form of cancer, ie: leukemia.......taken over enough time.
Cannabis, especially heavy doses, helps heal GI inflammation and irritation. I believe cannabis & cannabis based medications are some of the best options for treating Crohn's.
Smoking tobacco is a VERY bad idea with Crohn's. Tobacco often increases GI motility and irritation.......the exact opposite of what you're seeking with Crohn's. I would stop smoking tobacco immediately. I assume by saying "smoking pure", you mean smoking cannabis without tobacco? If so, yes, smoke ONLY cannabis.........no tobacco.
Vaporization is an excellent option if possible. You are removing any possible carcinogenics and likely increasing the amount of available cannabinoids. I switched to almost only vaporization 1.5-2 years ago and have been very happy with the switch.
Monitoring your diet is an equally important aspect. Removing irritating foods will really help.....ie: fried foods, heavily processed foods, high fiber foods, caffeine, etc. Keep a food journal, record everything you eat & track what bothers you and what doesn't. If possible, try a gluten-free diet. A gluten-free diet seems to help Crohn's and other auto-immune disorders in general.......decreased irritation, increased absorption, etc.
Hope that helps. Feel free to ask if you have other questions.
I just read an interesting article about Crohn's disease and cannabis.
Does Medical Marijuana Cure Crohn's Disease? Study Finds Some Patients Had Increased Appetite, Sleep Function, No Side Effects
http://www.ibtimes.com/does-medical...ds-some-patients-had-increased-appetite-sleep
Does Medical Marijuana Cure Crohn's Disease? Study Finds Some Patients Had Increased Appetite, Sleep Function, No Side Effects
http://www.ibtimes.com/does-medical...ds-some-patients-had-increased-appetite-sleep
juicing raw cannabis leaves, which will provide large amounts of (non psychoactive; meaning you can take as large a dose as needed) cannabinoid acids to the intestines which will help with the inflammation associated with crohns as well as act as an immuno-regulator- neither suppressing or stimulating the immune system but instead put it in balance.
look up Dr. William Courtney's research and findings in the field on raw cannabis... on YouTube
look up Dr. William Courtney's research and findings in the field on raw cannabis... on YouTube
All I can say is that cannabis irritates my stomach, and causes Symptoms similar to Chrons, although i believe i have peptic ulcer syndrome. I had to quit smoking because of it. Can only "smoke" once in awhile, and think a vaporizer is much better/healthier than smoking. Doesn't irritate my stomach as much as smoking.
According to that article, Chrons is NOT an autoimmune disease. From the article:
"Although it is often identified as an autoimmune disorder, Crohn’s disease is actually an immune deficiency state arising from various environmental and genetic factors, Medical Daily reports. The chronic inflammatory illness attacks the subject’s gastrointestinal tract, resulting in symptoms of “mild abdominal pain to more severe cases of bloody diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, weight loss and fevers.”
I have chrons and cbd heavy strains really really help me.
Great mention! Thanks for sharing that. Dr. Courtney has some very interesting findings. Going to research juicing more, certainly seems to have some amazing benefits. I have plenty of extra leaf around......going to get a juicer and try it soon.
The only thing I disagree with is Dr. Courtney stating the "maximum" daily intake when the acids are converted/decarboxylated. He states the maximum daily intake is then roughly 10mg daily. Tolerance is quickly built to the psychoactive effects. A primary example of this being RSO, or any other hash oil. Edibles being another example...........all the edibles I make are 250-450mg per edible, the psychoactive effects diminish rather quickly once your body becomes accustom to it. Starting slow, you can work up to large doses in several weeks while still being highly functionable. Edibles make ingesting large quantities on a daily basis rather easy.
Really sorry to hear that smoking exacerbates your GI symptoms, Retro. Have you been to a doctor for this? Can't say I've ever heard of cannabis causing GI symptoms similar to Crohn's......being it's used to help treat the disease, along with many other inflammatory disorders. The peptic ulcer sounds to be the real issue, in conjunction with the process of smoking. How does vaporizing, edibles, or tinctures effect your condition?
As for the article and Crohn's not being an autoimmune issue, research has shown there is some immune aspect involved. That said, how much the immune system is involved still isn't well understood. Actually, the disease itself still isn't very well understood. However, the pattern of disease emergence in families, heredity, and racial decent demonstrates some form of autoimmune involvement.
Glad to help, Oaky. Treating Crohn's really is a multifaceted approach......reducing irritation, reducing stress, and increasing food digestibility/absorption. The correct combination of medicine and food seems to be the answer for treatment.
Glad to hear CBD helps you, Hash!
I'm curious like Oaky, are there any particular high CBD strains you find help?
I'm very interested in higher CBD genetics. However, without gas chromatography/cannabinoid testing to analyze each individual phenotype, it's very difficult to determine CBD availability in plants from seed. I remember seeing quiet a bit of variability in high CBD strains when tested.....Mr.Nice's CBD project for example. Some plants being near a 50/50 THC/CBD ratio, while others having very varying %'s of both THC & CBD. Running well known, tested, and verified clones appears to be the only way to know exactly what you have.
Ahh, I'm sorry to hear that.
I would try edibles as soon as possible. It should help the arthritis as much, if not more, then smoking. You can make a smaller batch to start, test the waters so to speak.
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onlychild
I juice leaves... Highly recommend it. I'm 2 years in knowing/dealing with Graves' disease, another annoying autoimmune/immune disease. I'd like to try high cbd strains more frequenty.
Know your body and understand what you put into it.
Well wishes all
Oc
Know your body and understand what you put into it.
Well wishes all
Oc
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onlychild
Maybe some new User want to share infos!
Cannabis Induces a Clinical Response in Patients With Crohn's Disease: A Prospective Placebo-Controlled Study
Timna Naftali, Lihi Bar-Lev Schleider, Iris Dotan, Ephraim Philip Lansky, Fabiana Sklerovsky Benjaminov, Fred Meir Konikoff
Clin Gastroenterol Hepatol. 2013 Oct;11(10):1276-1280
Abstract
BACKGROUND & AIMS:
The marijuana plant Cannabis sativa has been reported to produce beneficial effects for patients with inflammatory bowel diseases, but this has not been investigated in controlled trials. We performed a prospective trial to determine whether cannabis can induce remission in patients with Crohn's disease.
METHODS:
We studied 21 patients (mean age, 40 ± 14 y; 13 men) with Crohn's Disease Activity Index (CDAI) scores greater than 200 who did not respond to therapy with steroids, immunomodulators, or anti-tumor necrosis factor-α agents. Patients were assigned randomly to groups given cannabis, twice daily, in the form of cigarettes containing 115 mg of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) or placebo containing cannabis flowers from which the THC had been extracted. Disease activity and laboratory tests were assessed during 8 weeks of treatment and 2 weeks thereafter.
RESULTS:
Complete remission (CDAI score, <150) was achieved by 5 of 11 subjects in the cannabis group (45%) and 1 of 10 in the placebo group (10%; P = .43). A clinical response (decrease in CDAI score of >100) was observed in 10 of 11 subjects in the cannabis group (90%; from 330 ± 105 to 152 ± 109) and 4 of 10 in the placebo group (40%; from 373 ± 94 to 306 ± 143; P = .028). Three patients in the cannabis group were weaned from steroid dependency. Subjects receiving cannabis reported improved appetite and sleep, with no significant side effects.
CONCLUSIONS:
Although the primary end point of the study (induction of remission) was not achieved, a short course (8 weeks) of THC-rich cannabis produced significant clinical, steroid-free benefits to 10 of 11 patients with active Crohn's disease, compared with placebo, without side effects. Further studies, with larger patient groups and a nonsmoking mode of intake, are warranted.
(There is also research using CBD, THC, and both, in rats with induced Crohn's):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2931570/
Timna Naftali, Lihi Bar-Lev Schleider, Iris Dotan, Ephraim Philip Lansky, Fabiana Sklerovsky Benjaminov, Fred Meir Konikoff
Clin Gastroenterol Hepatol. 2013 Oct;11(10):1276-1280
Abstract
BACKGROUND & AIMS:
The marijuana plant Cannabis sativa has been reported to produce beneficial effects for patients with inflammatory bowel diseases, but this has not been investigated in controlled trials. We performed a prospective trial to determine whether cannabis can induce remission in patients with Crohn's disease.
METHODS:
We studied 21 patients (mean age, 40 ± 14 y; 13 men) with Crohn's Disease Activity Index (CDAI) scores greater than 200 who did not respond to therapy with steroids, immunomodulators, or anti-tumor necrosis factor-α agents. Patients were assigned randomly to groups given cannabis, twice daily, in the form of cigarettes containing 115 mg of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) or placebo containing cannabis flowers from which the THC had been extracted. Disease activity and laboratory tests were assessed during 8 weeks of treatment and 2 weeks thereafter.
RESULTS:
Complete remission (CDAI score, <150) was achieved by 5 of 11 subjects in the cannabis group (45%) and 1 of 10 in the placebo group (10%; P = .43). A clinical response (decrease in CDAI score of >100) was observed in 10 of 11 subjects in the cannabis group (90%; from 330 ± 105 to 152 ± 109) and 4 of 10 in the placebo group (40%; from 373 ± 94 to 306 ± 143; P = .028). Three patients in the cannabis group were weaned from steroid dependency. Subjects receiving cannabis reported improved appetite and sleep, with no significant side effects.
CONCLUSIONS:
Although the primary end point of the study (induction of remission) was not achieved, a short course (8 weeks) of THC-rich cannabis produced significant clinical, steroid-free benefits to 10 of 11 patients with active Crohn's disease, compared with placebo, without side effects. Further studies, with larger patient groups and a nonsmoking mode of intake, are warranted.
(There is also research using CBD, THC, and both, in rats with induced Crohn's):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2931570/
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