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Problems with soil drying out and ideas about a self managing grow

SpaceAce

New member
Hello friends!

Growing outdoors the most common problem i've encountered is my plants drying out. Generally when it gets this dry in my region its hard to find water anyplace. Hauling jugs of water into some inaccessible terrain to guerilla grow spots isnt much of an option either.

To make it clear about the condition in my region. Either it pours and everything is soaked for weeks at a time. Or its dry as bone. Neither is good.

So this got me thinking. Why not bring the plants to the water instead of the other way around.

Now, i've had some luck with a swamp grow. Namely a big ol' bucket with leca in the bottom. About 4 inches of leca and then along the height of the leca i drilled holes all around the container. I then took an old bed sheet and wrapped it tightly and then inserted it all the way trough two of the holes so that it runs all the way trough the container and with two ends sticking out about 15 inches. Then added some potting soil with a few handfulls of lime to combat the acidity of this pine wood swamp. Surprisingly the ph was fairly good at around 6. But i figured better safe than sorry.
The bucket was placed on some thick branches so the bottom holes of the container never sat under the water level even at max water.
Then the container was concealed with some jute cloth wrapped around it and messed up with dirt, twigs, grass and other local things.

An illustration to further explain:
<img src="http://www.anony.ws/i/2013/07/17/89vBa.jpg" border



The idea of all of this is that the cloth would act as a capillary to draw up water from the always wet marshy/swampy land. If the pot gets oversaturated or it rains the water is supposed to drip down into the part below the holes forming a reservoir for the plant to put down roots into. I dont know if this would actually happend or if the wick just saturates the soil.

The project worked pretty good and produced a healthy plant as far as i could see. Even with the cold weather and heavy raining of this year.

Now for some debate topics:

Does the plant get enough aeriation with this wick type of system? And how could you improve the overall aeriation further without losing the soils capillary properties?

My goal is to just place the container with either a young seedling or just a sprout and then coming back when its harvest time. What nutrients would work best for this approach?

Ive been pondering the idea of building a stealthy self bouyant container and placing it in a freshwater lake using the same wick self watering system. Does anyone have any good ideas or maybe tried it themselves?

Cheers!
 

Highcountry

Active member
On another fine cannabis site I frequent, many growers there grow in swamp tubes. Basically a tub filled with promix with holes cut out in the bottom sitting in a swamp or bog. Fertilized with organics or a slow release fert like osmocote. Lime placed underneath the tub. These guys never have to water. Seems to be the way to grow. Hope this helps. Peace.
 

SpaceAce

New member
Look up screen name BACKCOUNTRY on here. I believe he and others have come up with some cool planters exactly along the line of what you are needing.

Actually, here, I had this one still bookmarked from long ago:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=128405

Hope this helps, and good luck!

Thanks Sungrown! This helps alot and gives me a few ideas how to do things.


On another fine cannabis site I frequent, many growers there grow in swamp tubes. Basically a tub filled with promix with holes cut out in the bottom sitting in a swamp or bog. Fertilized with organics or a slow release fert like osmocote. Lime placed underneath the tub. These guys never have to water. Seems to be the way to grow. Hope this helps. Peace.


Thank you for your reply mate! Now this is really interesting. Do you have a link that explains one of those swamp tubes?
 

dontstepongrass

M.U.R.D.A. / FMB crew
Veteran
On another fine cannabis site I frequent, many growers there grow in swamp tubes. Basically a tub filled with promix with holes cut out in the bottom sitting in a swamp or bog. Fertilized with organics or a slow release fert like osmocote. Lime placed underneath the tub. These guys never have to water. Seems to be the way to grow. Hope this helps. Peace.



i have done this and it works well... i would advise that you amend the promix HEAVILY with perlite to aid in wicking...

basically, take rubbermaid tub (i usually do 35-40 gal models) and cut large holes out of the bottom. i usually cut like 90% of the bottom away and i cut square holes with the dremel tool. 2 rows of 4 holes is usually how i do it...

place tub into marsh so there couple inches of standing water inside the tub... now start adding amended soilless mix (hope you brought alot!)

i would also recommend painting the outside of the tubs camo colors and then i would recommend hiding the tub with brush like tall grass or something to prevent it from being spotted easily.

i would recommend topping every plant you do in hydro buckets (we call it hillbilly hydro lol) because they growth is fast and the plants get almost too tall to remain hidden in cattails. so i would top em all early and stake the branches outwards to create a shorter, wider plant.


hope some of this helps.
 

Femora

Member
How long are you out of rain?

Maybe my tarpaulin-watercollector idea could be something..
And with some work you could dig down a container that collected all the water.. eg a 200 liter-barrel...

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Works perfekt for me... But.. 14-15 days without any rain is uncommon.
My guess is that this wont work if you wanna store water up to a month or more...
 

johnny54

Member
Does anything one think it would be possible to super saturate native soil to simulate BOG/Swamp conditions?

My idea involved tilling/prepping the soil with tons of water crystals in the fall, allowing them to get fully charged over the winter after the snow melts.
 
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