Biker Kush V2.0 Extended Test

[NotaProfessor]

Update - Day 118

I'm still going at it. Some of them have taken off while half of them have taken their sweet time. I wanted to get cuttings from the smaller ones (6,7,8) but being so slow I'm just going to start flowering them without getting a cutting, or maybe get one when they stretch. Today they all get flipped. I have cuttings either rooting or rooted for #1-5.

Karma wanted these BK stressed (or maybe that's what I think he wanted) and they have been. Long veg time, vegging under HPS the past couple weeks, odd feeding schedules. When you look at the pics you'll see they (1,2,3,4) are pretty big to start flowering. I'll be doing some drastic training moves on them when they get to stretching so that will be another stress.

So far, no preflowers.

Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate your comments.

 

[NotaProfessor]

Numbers 2, 3, and 5 are showing me their girly parts. (I already have rooted cuttings of these three.)

Numbers 1 and 4 are looking to be boys (not doing anything with them for a while).

Numbers 6, 7, 8 are a little slow to show yet.

 

[NotaProfessor]

Day 12 Flowering

#1 and #4 are full-on males.

#2, #3, #5, #7, and #8 are females.

#6 is still too shy to show me its privates.

Here's the group photo. #1 and #4 are out of there in another area, likely to get culled (I'm not interested in breeding/seedmaking). Front row, l-r, is #7, #6, #8, #5. Back two are, l-r, #2 and #3.

Closeups of #7 and #6

Closeups of #8 and #5

Closeup of #2 (my favorite, nice and bushy)

Closeup of #3 (lanky, tall girl)

So 5 girls and 2 guys so far.

That's all for now. Thanks for stopping by!

 

[NotaProfessor]

Today is a day shy of 3 weeks flowering (20 days).

#6 has finally shown as a female to make it 6 female, 2 male. No balls to be seen on any of the ladies so far.

I'll be posting pictures about 8 days from now, after I'm back from a little vacation. (I have a minion tending to the girls while I'm out.) By then I expect to have some 'bunny tails'. Right now the plants are still stretching.

Thanks for stopping by!

 

[NotaProfessor]

Day 37 Flowering

The stressing continues. Not a ball in sight.

• Heat stress - I got some fried tops on 2,3, and 7.
• Messed up watering schedule - many days watering daily, then every 3 days, 2 days, whatever I feel at the time.
• High-stress training - #2 and #3 were getting way too tall so I just bent over the tops. I was not delicate.

It was a jungle with all six in one 4 ft x 4 ft chamber. Today I separated out 5, 6, and 7 to another chamber. Those three will undergo yet another stressor, namely I'm going to switch their light/dark cycle around. This is so I can run one light for 12 hrs then the other light for 12 hours, evening out the load on my circuits. We shall soon see how they take to getting their days and nights inverted.

They all smell good. I've got some taco leaves on #7 and #5 but not on the rest. Buds look small for 5+ weeks but everything about this has been slow.

Enough jabber, on with some pics.

Here are (l-r) #7, #6, #5 in their new chamber

Here is the other chamber with #8 (foreground), #2 (left rear), and #3 (right rear). #8 has a nice cola central developing.

Here are (l-r) #2 and #3 (#8 has been removed)

#8 - full plant

#8 - close up of cola

More pics of the others to follow.

 

[NotaProfessor]

Day 37 of flowering

#5 whole plant

#5 close up

#6 whole plant

#6 close up

 

[NotaProfessor]

Day 37 of flowering

#7 whole plant

#7 close up

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[Karma Genetics]

If yourse dont herm, i dont know anymore, with that threatment i expected them to show some Finicky ball works, But seems they are rolling allong.


I think you can turn the RAW style a bit down now ha ha, so you get good smoke afther.

 

[NotaProfessor]

If yourse dont herm, i dont know anymore, with that threatment i expected them to show some Finicky ball works, But seems they are rolling allong.


I think you can turn the RAW style a bit down now ha ha, so you get good smoke afther.

I didn't intend to rough them up as much as I have. With some growing fast and others taking their time in veg I ended up overvegging almost all of them. When it came to stretch they blew up! I estimate the stretch at about 3x, which will inform me about what height I should put them into flower when I run the cuttings next.

And as you noted, despite all the (unintentional) abuse they haven't gone hermie.

#6 and #7 have begun to come back from some severe tacoing of the leaves. I ascribed that to too low pH and when I backed off on the pH they bounced right back.

Like Third Coast noted in his grow, they are some topheavy plants and I've already got them supported. I also noted your comment about BK liking its feeds heavy, so I just bumped up the feed.

Anyway, enough talk and on with the pics!
First off I'll show some bud shots so I don't scare anybody off...

And here is a pic of #8, where that first budshot came from.

 

[NotaProfessor]

More family photos....

Here is #2. She's in a 3 gal. bag of coco. She blew up and is about twice the size I'd normally have in the tent. I'm just trying to keep her from falling over.

This is #3. She's also in a 3 gal. bag of coco. Like #2, she's way too big for the tent.

Here are #5, #6, and #7 respectively. These three, as well as #8, are in 1 gal. bags of coco. That's a lot of plant for such a tiny rootball. #6 and #7 had some severe tacoing of the leaves, noted in the last update a couple weeks ago.

Thanks for stopping by and thanks again to Karma for giving me a shot at testing these out.

 

[Treetroit City]

Man... These are the most finicky plants I've ever dealt with.

I'll just be happy to get some smoke out of them. I can't go over 1.0 EC or I get tip burn and a host of other issues.

Looks like you will get some bud out of them at least. I will as well but can't say I'm thrilled with the grow.

Nothing against KG but these girls are just a bitch to grow. I got like 12 strains that are all happy except this 1.

 

[NotaProfessor]

Day 68 flowering

They all continue to recover and bulk their buds. Being just a few days shy of 10 weeks I would expect the buds to be further along but I suspect my mishandling of them delays them a bit. I expect that I'll be going about two more weeks before I bring them down.

One thing I noticed was these are some good yielders. Internode spacing is close (not as close as Happy Brother BX2) and the buds are getting pretty tall rather than being more symmetric, golf ball-like buds.

These actually have colas and I was concerned about mold setting in on those colas. As a preventative I sprayed about 3 weeks back with Actinovate, a beneficial fungal treatment (of competitor fungal strains) that is supposed to keep bud rot at bay. [I tried it on a previous grow and got no bud rot, however I will refrain from the fallacious post hoc ergo propter hoc argument and not say that was all due to the Actinovate.] We'll see how that works with these plants.

Back to yield...the plants in 3 gal bags are looking to yield quite well. Being very tall they are hunched over their support, laden with buds. The plants in 1 gal bags got the same structure but are just miniature versions of the 3 gal versions. Since almost all these 1 gal plants were treated most roughly, they are not building on the buds like the 3 gal. [likely there's a little lesson about root ball vs yield in there].

Like Catfish Billy and Third Coast have noted, there's not any(?) pheno variance that I can note.

Now is the time when I shut up and post the pics. I'll get some whole plant pics later today but we all wanna see some BK2.0 buds, so here ya go.

The other testers (CB and TC) talk of the smell of raw yayo and I caught a whiff of that. Now the smell is turning more funky.

I've got cuttings rooted and in 1 gal bags already. Once these come down I'm going to give BK2.0 a proper, respectful grow. Given how they've come thru my few months of hell I'm very interested in how they perform under optimal conditions.

Thanks for stopping by!

 

[Critter]

Looking Dank in here bro. Big-ups

 

[Catfish Billy]

OHhhhh ya Nota!! Get ready for some Biker Kushy goodness!! I took mine down at 65 days def could have gone a few weeeks longer so I really think you are in for some powerful delicious smoke broseph!!

My clones look sooooo much better than my seed plants as will yours i predict. Cant get much better but it will im sure. Smoke is just great A++. Karma really did us a solid.

 

[NotaProfessor]

Day 74 Update

Here are the full plant pics I had said were coming. They show the trouble they've been thru and still no balls. Surely one tough strain. They have been on a diet of molasses and CalMag since about 4 days ago. I have about a week to 10 days to go, I think.

Here is #2. She's in a 3 gal bag of coco. When she stretched she went nuts and grew to about 7 ft tall. Then buds started to fatten up and she bent over like a weeping willow. I now have her draped over a piece of wire shelving to keep her off the floor. Big buds with calyxes starting to fatten noticeably.

This is #3, the only other plant in a 3 gal bag. She kind of made herself out in the shape of an espalier - a fan-shaped plant with buds all along the perimeter. Big buds.

Here are #5, #6, and #8, respectively, all in 1 gal bags of coco. They, too, are filling out but not as fat as the girls in the 3 gal bags.

One thing I learned through reading a random thread here on ICMag forums was that flowering starts from the first sign of pistils, not at the flip to 12/12. I never knew that and looking back I sadly realize that I've taken almost every crop I've grown early. Still good smokes but what an extra 10-14 days would've done remains a what-if I regret not following thru on.

Since these took a while, about 2 weeks, to show. So these are at 74 - 14 = 60 days, or about 8.5 weeks. That extra 1.5-2 weeks will be needed.

Thanks for stopping by!

 

[veek]

thats bullshit and you did it right the hole time. the pistils are just a sign of the gender. the flowering period (and counting the days) starts with the switch to 12/12.