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3000W SCROG/Fully Automated/Gavita's/Iponic 600.....Let the fun begin!!!

LEDNewbie

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Nice work.

Just to bust your chops a little bit. But if you are running Gavitas at 1150 watts.
3 of them are 3450 watts. So you need 7 pounds to really count it as 2 pounds/light

I only ran them at 1000W. And if your really want to get technical I only ran them at 600w during veg. And the last 2 weeks of flower I only ran the lights on for 10 hours and the last week lights were set to 825W. So by your theory I actually did even better!!!! LoL!!!!
 

BCNeil

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I only ran them at 1000W. And if your really want to get technical I only ran them at 600w during veg. And the last 2 weeks of flower I only ran the lights on for 10 hours and the last week lights were set to 825W. So by your theory I actually did even better!!!! LoL!!!!


Why did you not use the 1150 setting?
 

OG_TGR

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I only ran them at 1000W. And if your really want to get technical I only ran them at 600w during veg. And the last 2 weeks of flower I only ran the lights on for 10 hours and the last week lights were set to 825W. So by your theory I actually did even better!!!! LoL!!!!
gah.....Algebra.... ;)
 

LEDNewbie

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Why did you not use the 1150 setting?

A few reasons. One I'm trying to keep my electricity bill down as I don't want a city inspection. Two, I was speaking with whazzup on this forum and he works for gavita. He told me not to run them at 1150w as I would just have to run the lights higher negating the purpose of running the higher wattage. I was getting some bleaching when my lights were 18" above the canopy. I raised lights all the way up as high as I could go which was 24" and the bleaching stopped. This run if I control the canopy height better and I can get more distance between the canopy and the lights maybe I will try running the lights at 1150w during week 3-6 of flower and then reduce back down to 1000w and back down to 825w for the last couple weeks.
 

down2grow

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Damn just read the whole thread in one sitting! Good shit bro! Those gavitas tend to make some buds foxtail towards the end on higher wattages, so some of my boys even drop their lights down to 600 that last week just to let stuff finish up on time.

D2G
 

LEDNewbie

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Glad u enjoyed the thread. And thanks for the tip. Just the other day I sanitized my complete drip system with physan 20 and then gave it a good flush with water. Over the next week I will finish up the cleaning and sanitizing the room and then place the girls in there
 

BigGreen

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Im about to get freaky
Found a killer pheno of wifi that yields crazy. Gonna cram 32 of em in a 3x6 tray in 1 gallon pots of coco. H&G full line
I got just about 5 #s from 4 600 in coco first run in the room with H&G full line. Im thinking I can crush it with a little love and more plants
 

LEDNewbie

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Im about to get freaky
Found a killer pheno of wifi that yields crazy. Gonna cram 32 of em in a 3x6 tray in 1 gallon pots of coco. H&G full line
I got just about 5 #s from 4 600 in coco first run in the room with H&G full line. Im thinking I can crush it with a little love and more plants

I wish I could get my hands on a wifi or chemd. A plant made for scrogging. Then I think I could really put on a show. Unfortunately I just don't have the connections. All I can get are kush's.

I am very excited to try the H&G line up with theherbalizor's twist on the recipe. Hoping for bigger better things :tiphat:

When you going to get this new grow going? How many lights above this 3x6 tray? You going to do a journal for it? Love to follow that one along.

Been vegging under t5's. End of the week or beginning of next week I will transfer plants into the flower room. Veg for another 7-10 days and then flip. Will post up pics then. Girls look nice and healthy as of 2 days ago when I last feed them.
 

username474

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Im about to get freaky
Found a killer pheno of wifi that yields crazy. Gonna cram 32 of em in a 3x6 tray in 1 gallon pots of coco. H&G full line
I got just about 5 #s from 4 600 in coco first run in the room with H&G full line. Im thinking I can crush it with a little love and more plants

Why not skip the 1gal pots and go stright in the beds? I was just
doing 40 per 3x6 under 2x600's and hit 1.1 gpw with a pheno
of c99 and was hitting around 1gpw with a few other strains. I was vegging with a light rail but, they were at the same size as
a 10 day veg for the most part.

I saw the wifi pics you posted they all looked good. You will kill it
either way though.
 

BigGreen

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I have 2 600s for each 3x6 tray with adjust a wing reflectors. The rooms dialed pretty well everything stay exactly where I want it to. Its just a matter of plumming in 2 drip systems and Im good to go.
I have 1 boggle gum still finishing up in the room. Clones get cut tomorrow so the show shouyld start in two weeks.
In the mean time Im gonna start up a new thread for the UC room
 

DrFever

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I have 2 600s for each 3x6 tray with adjust a wing reflectors. The rooms dialed pretty well everything stay exactly where I want it to. Its just a matter of plumming in 2 drip systems and Im good to go.
I have 1 boggle gum still finishing up in the room. Clones get cut tomorrow so the show shouyld start in two weeks.
In the mean time Im gonna start up a new thread for the UC room
why no go 1000 watts ?????
(2) 600 watt lights, it does NOT equal 1200 watts, At 90,000 lumens it is still 2 sources of light at 2 different angles.

Now a 1000 watt light at 140,000 lumens gets the fattest buds.

So adding more lights will get more coverage but not necessarily more penetration or more bud weight like a 1000 watt does.

Total lumen output from a single source is what you are looking for.

Two sources of lumen output equals just that, 2 sources from different angles, they are no stronger but yet come from different angles.
 
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willyweed

you are correct dr fever ,2x 600 watt lights do not work great compared to 2x1000 watt lights.however to make a real comparison 3x 600 watt lights gives better coverage than 2x 1000 watt bulbs and cost less to run ! the maths is simple 2x 140,000 = 280,000 lumens
where as 3x 98,000 lumens = 294,000 lumens which does equal more lumens per square foot plus saving 200 watts,which would equal another small light which would equal more lumens pushing the number even higher yes or no ? unless you are not able to get the 95,000-98,000 lumens bulbs in canada yet ?
the only time this is not the case or problems may occur is when growing tall plants ie (lack of penetration ) but providing the plants remain about 3 foot tall ,this should never be a problem. the reason for this is that the newish 600 watt mixed spectrum bulbs on the market are just more efficient than any other hps bulb per watt .600 seems to be a magic number in lighting watts good luck .willyweed
 

swiftyballs

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I wish I could get my hands on a wifi or chemd. A plant made for scrogging. Then I think I could really put on a show. Unfortunately I just don't have the connections. All I can get are kush's.

I am very excited to try the H&G line up with theherbalizor's twist on the recipe. Hoping for bigger better things :tiphat:

When you going to get this new grow going? How many lights above this 3x6 tray? You going to do a journal for it? Love to follow that one along.

Been vegging under t5's. End of the week or beginning of next week I will transfer plants into the flower room. Veg for another 7-10 days and then flip. Will post up pics then. Girls look nice and healthy as of 2 days ago when I last feed them.

LED I've looked for theherbalizor's twist on the H&G line but can't find it. Could you point me in the right direction? Congrats on the last run :good: you have me thinking about swapping my 8 1000w for 6 gavitas.
 

LEDNewbie

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Gavita's are the only way to go. My grow shop guy was the one that originally put me onto the gavita's and he swears with the right strain, 18 plants per light he has guys doing 2.5# per 600W gavita!!!!!!

I will post up theherbalizor's recipe for ya when I get to my computer.
 

LEDNewbie

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Sorry for taking so long. I'm so fucking busy these days it's ridiculous!!! I really don't have the time to be growing my meds. Between working 10-12 hours a day at work. Doing things around the house its really tough to find the time necessary to do one of these grows the way I like to do them with all the proper training, pruning and etc. takes allot of time and energy.

Well finally found the time tonight to move plants into the flower room. Hook up all the drippers and lay the trellis across my PVC scrog table. Will snap some pics tomorrow when I go in to make up my first batch of "theherbalizor" nutes and start weaving these bitches.

Anyhow here is his magic recipe

All plants in Canna Coco pro plus. During veg they are dripped 3 x per lights on. 2 drippers per pot.

Drip times are for around 7 mins until a little run off. But not much.

During flower I will increase this to 6 drips of about 4 mins per 12 hours lights on.

So Lights on at 10 with a 4 min drip, drip again at 12, 2, 4, 6 and 8.

Feed is mainly house and garden.

My base ec out of the tap is 0.5 pH 7.1

During veg I start at 20ml / 12 lt bucket of house garden coco a&b each. This gives me ec of around 1.2. I soak my cubes for cuttings at this rate and never go below unless final flush.

I also add to every feed 0.3m/l H&G root excel, 1ml/l multi zym, 0.5ml / l amino treatment rising to 1ml/l in last weeks of veg.

And a little bit of super thrive every now and then, and perhaps some potsil.

I stick with this until around week 2 of flower except I will have increased my base ec feed to 1.4 to 1.6 ec flashing at start of flower. Never really exceeding 35ml of a&b in each 12 lt bucket during whole grow.

At week 3 I will introduce canadian express headmasta and superior potash at 0.5ml / l.

Week 4 I up these to 1ml /l each. And stop root exel in introduce AN humid and fulvic acid at 1ml / l.

Week 5 I stop multizym and start budxl at 1ml / l.

Continue on till mid week 6 when I cut out the headmasta and sup potash and feed with out them for a few days to ensure all pk is leached from the medium.

Then week 7 I lower base ec back to 1.2 stop all additive except bud xl and introduce top shooter, gel or powder. At 0.5 ml /l for one week.

Week 8 stick at 1.2 ec and raise top shooter to 1ml / l. This take ec to 1.8.

Week 9 I cut all feed and go plain water till chop, either 14 or 21 days depending on plant finishing times.

I always add drip clean at 1.2ml / 12 lt bucket.
 

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