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Broad Mites?
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So we get it that the OGBIOWAR foilar pack works well for broad mites... that being said I have to wonder if you (RetroGrow) have some commercial interest in this company - in all due respect you push the product like a dedicated salesperson!
So let's quit beating that dead horse you speak of
It is apparently a great product however...
I don't know what you are talking about. I don't use this product. Never heard of it until OrganicOzarks posted about it. That's why I was asking him questions about it. I am not pushing it and certainly don't sell it. I don't know how you got that idea.
No, there are no egg pix in my gallery. I have a scope, but not one that takes pictures.
That's what I have been saying about your seedlings, that there are other issues there, as you can see by my seedling pictures, they didn't look as bad as yours, and didn't notice any symptoms until 14 days. I also don't see how you could get that much damage just from mites that soon. There may very well be some mites, but I am seeing over watering/PH issues. That will stunt them like that. They should be bigger at that stage, kind of like the seedlings in my pix. I have had that same issue before so that's why it's familiar to me. I think your medium is/was probably a bit soggy, causing some of the problems you are seeing. I have learned from experience that the seed starter mixes I named earlier are the best way to start seedlings. It is sphagnum with mycorrhizae fungi and a very mild nutrient. It starts seedlings out with beneficial fungi right from the start. And I start them under 1000 watt MH bulb, placed high above the seedlings. This full strength light makes them grow hardier without stretching. The stems begin to thicken immediately if the seedling doesn't have to stretch for light, which they will do under flourescents, which most people use for starts, probably for convenience. The other thing is, lose the humidity dome if you haven't already. Not necessary except maybe for the first day or two depending on your humidity situation. Too much humidity will promote mold and bad fungi. All these things I am telling you are from experience. I have made every mistake in the book in all my years growing, so you learn from your mistakes. Everyone makes them. My first grow was in 1970, so I have over 40 years experience, and have pretty much seen it all. God, I'm old. Can't even believe it.
I think your seedlings will recover once the medium dries out more. Personally, I would transplant them into coco, but that's just me. Get some aspirin into them ASAP. That will help. You can add it to nute/water solution at 325 Mg per gallon, or just drop one 325 Mg tablet into one of those 32 oz. spray bottles, and give them a foliar spray.
Kelp is good. I use Floralicious + which has kelp and makes a good foliar spray.
http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/supplements/floralicious/floralicious_plus/
No, I am not selling that either...
Consider the Hempy buckets. A two gallon Hempy bucket can produce plants as big as a pound with a long veg time (2 months), or 6-8 ounces with a one month veg, strain dependent of course. And they are fool proof. Impossible to over water. In fact, the more often you water them once the roots have been established, the more they explode. I have never seen such explosive growth except possibly with DWC, but Hempys are so simple and forgiving. There are two threads here on ICMag about Hempys. One is the "Hempy Bucket" thread, and the other is "Hempys In Coco", by Hempy himself, the inventor of this system.
Check them out. My last run with them I had 7 foot plants in 2 gallon buckets, with the biggest being almost a pound, and the smallest being 8 ounces.
Yup, that's a broad mite egg with the "dimples", or whatever they are called. What about the other round, smaller objects? Trichomes, right?
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Yes, I figured out the overwatering/ph issue. RO water is NOT okay to balance and put straight onto seedlings. RO or 'dead' water is completely unstable and cannot hold a consistent ph, which I already knew and why I add cal/mag during regular conditions. Having started from clone for so long, I took some seed advise that wasn't so good. I fixed the prob with a light mix of cal/mag and kelp.
b/c i was seeing ph problems I watered to flush out the bad ph, and in so doing over-watered. anyway...
I saw the hempy thread... the idea of growing from the ground is appealing, along with those big yield #'s and low maintenance factor.
No ill effects 12 hours after sulfur dunk. going to dunk entire population to hedge against cyclamen. anyone out there who has their own cyclamen egg pics please share
So we get it that the OGBIOWAR foilar pack works well for broad mites... that being said I have to wonder if you (RetroGrow) have some commercial interest in this company - in all due respect you push the product like a dedicated salesperson!
So let's quit beating that dead horse you speak of
It is apparently a great product however...
Payaso,
What about the hundreds of post on here about Forbid, Avid ect??? Talk about beating a dead horse. Are you going to call them out or what?
You have one guy on here letting everyone know that OG biowar works and that it is the end all for broad mites and your going to call him out? So far everyone on here that has listen to him and ordered it has solved there BM problems. Including me. Its completely organic as well. All that other shit stunts your growth even more and does not work.
I can't thank Organic Ozark enough for bringing this super easy to use product to this thread. What blows me away is how everyone keeps going in circles about all these other chemical products that do not work for BM's
I will say it again, I used OG Biowar 1 time and it solved my problems. BM's gone!!! I applied it again after one week just to make sure. My room is thriving again and I feel like using more because my plant seem to love it.
If OO had not posted over and over about OG Biowar my entire lively hood would be at risk. Please give him some credit.
syngenta and bayer don't have shills on the forums because syngenta and bayer don't need shills on the forums. if you're peddling supplements out of the back of your van and on ebay, a little free publicity goes a long way.
it's like the difference between mentioning in passing that you like denny's coffee as opposed to writing a couple dozen posts extolling the virtues of Nancy's Coffee Shop in Lincoln, Nebraska. One can't help wondering if the guy with an almost religious devotion to this particular product and who can tell you all the discount codes for the outfit isn't just being too cheap to buy a banner and a vendor badge. heck, i can't help wondering if the guy with 6 posts who's catching his back so adamantly isn't maybe writing from the same IP address as the individual in question. i don't suppose it would be too hard to find out though.
I prefer tap water. It has minerals, although I sometimes do use RO water on starts for the initial watering, as they are living on the cotyledon then. Then I switch to tap water. If it's safe to drink, it's O.K. for your plants and has plenty of calcium in it.
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OrganicOzarks
You are more than out of line, and you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
the fact is that if you mention chemicals a billion times it's ok, but somehow I am a shill that works for this Company, or I may actually be the Company's owner because I have mentioned as many times as say storm shadow has mentioned every god damn chemical that exists that you can legally spray on a plant?
Wow. I am blown away by the balls you have.
i now have tetra san 5, phantom, avid, floramite, indicate5, cap's packs, azatrol, spinosod, i rotate em all and only use miticides on moms and plants going into flower.... none of the above products when used at proper application rates have damaged or stunted any of my plants; have even sprayed unrooted clones with an atomist with no ill effects.... respirator, spray guard for my face, wellies, blue rubber gloves and tyveck overall complete the look lol 
if i'm mistaken, please accept my humblest apologies. not trying to start an argument. just calling it like i see it.
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Have been using "Judo/forbid" in the recent past. It works for me for about six to nine month's always had a light BM infection.(Because I only used it when I noticed the damage) Wanted to get away from toxins for good. Always had some plants do better than others. Been fighting this a long time. Heat works if you know how to use it.Aspirin works to help the plants immunity. Now testing OGBiowar inside and out, third week now plants look pretty good so far>It's been about three weeks .Spraying once a week. Not at all sure this stuff will work on Bm's yet as the "judo" was last sprayed about six months ago. I am now waiting for a digital microscope camera to confirm this stuff will work or not. As I had only used a 100x hand held scope and never really knew if I was looking at BM egg's or not. And I knew the "Judo" would take care of the problem anyway. As the months go by I will keep this board posted for my results. All the very best..
OGBiowar
Have been using "Judo/forbid" in the recent past. It works for me for about six to nine month's always had a light BM infection.(Because I only used it when I noticed the damage) Wanted to get away from toxins for good. Always had some plants do better than others. Been fighting this a long time. Heat works if you know how to use it.Aspirin works to help the plants immunity. Now testing OGBiowar inside and out, third week now plants look pretty good so far>It's been about three weeks .Spraying once a week. Not at all sure this stuff will work on Bm's yet as the "judo" was last sprayed about six months ago. I am now waiting for a digital microscope camera to confirm this stuff will work or not. As I had only used a 100x hand held scope and never really knew if I was looking at BM egg's or not. And I knew the "Judo" would take care of the problem anyway. As the months go by I will keep this board posted for my results. All the very best..
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SooperSmurph
Instead of coming into this thread saying, "Biological Controls are awesome, a blend of these species knocks the fuck outa bugs!" You went straight for a specific brand name without bringing up any other options, or suggesting ways to obtain the product direct from the manufacturing labs (no, he does not make this stuff, yes, he is repackaging / mixing ready to use products from a lab), and you can't see how this would make people think you're trying to sell something?
I've been wondering if you were an OGBiowar rep for pages.
i wouldn't apply anything to my plants that lists verticillium as an active ingredient because verticillium is a known pathogen of cannabis.
enough arguing though. anyone has anything constructive to add i'd be happy to hear it.
enough arguing though. anyone has anything constructive to add i'd be happy to hear it.
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OrganicOzarks
Well thanks for the negative rep. I guess I will stop posting in this thread, and everybody can go back to using chemicals that seem to not be working.
SS and SL you guys are way off. OO has talked about many other solutions in these threads. Please go back a read.
Broad Mites are no joke and a growing problem in the cannabis world. There has not been one other solution to totally getting rid of BM's. But there are many on here suggesting using all the chemical products known to man just to contain them. Wheres your comments about those hundreds of post. And the same people posting.
Yes i only have 8 post. I just started growing and consider myself a rookie. I come on hear to listen and i find most of my questioned answers by surfing though the threads. I have nothing to offer as far as advice goes. But I was so stoked that this worked and just want to share my story because BM's are no joke when they come into your life.
The fact is the shit works and works with ease. If you don't want to hear it then you can go in circles talking about Avid, heat treatment, Neem, Forbid ect... I could give a shit.
TO those that want to get rid of BM's trust me OG Bio War works and it doesnt stunt your plants. I'm no rep and nor do i have any part of the company. I talk to the owner on the phone once. He gives you the online code for discount. As far as I know its one guy.
BM's were such a big downer for me I will scream till im blue in the face about this product.
Broad Mites are no joke and a growing problem in the cannabis world. There has not been one other solution to totally getting rid of BM's. But there are many on here suggesting using all the chemical products known to man just to contain them. Wheres your comments about those hundreds of post. And the same people posting.
Yes i only have 8 post. I just started growing and consider myself a rookie. I come on hear to listen and i find most of my questioned answers by surfing though the threads. I have nothing to offer as far as advice goes. But I was so stoked that this worked and just want to share my story because BM's are no joke when they come into your life.
The fact is the shit works and works with ease. If you don't want to hear it then you can go in circles talking about Avid, heat treatment, Neem, Forbid ect... I could give a shit.
TO those that want to get rid of BM's trust me OG Bio War works and it doesnt stunt your plants. I'm no rep and nor do i have any part of the company. I talk to the owner on the phone once. He gives you the online code for discount. As far as I know its one guy.
BM's were such a big downer for me I will scream till im blue in the face about this product.
I hear ya OO. Your trying to help people because you don't want to see others suffer from this nasty mite and here comes the dicks to make you feel like whats the point of even posting. Try not to get frustrated by a few. I have know reason to post on here anymore now that my problem is solved. But BM's effected me so much and after reading all the BS Chemical shit on this thread, I felt the need to spread the word. But people like this can make you just go back to being a reader instead of sharer.
The funny thing is when talking to the owner of OGBW on the phone he had no idea that his product would wipe out BM's until just recently. And he made sure to say that he does not guarantee his product as the end all. He's just hearing the stories about BM's and his product for the first time himself. He's stoked but still researching himself before he even starts advertising that its the solution for BM's.
The funny thing is when talking to the owner of OGBW on the phone he had no idea that his product would wipe out BM's until just recently. And he made sure to say that he does not guarantee his product as the end all. He's just hearing the stories about BM's and his product for the first time himself. He's stoked but still researching himself before he even starts advertising that its the solution for BM's.
yeah maybe rethink that screaming till you are blue about some product. OrganicO doing it as a member in good standing once or twice in an on topic way is one thing, but a brand new member has to be more careful as any suggestion of spam will be grounds for banning. you have to earn peoples trust in your words. we don't like product recommendations coming from brand new accounts.
will be interesting to see if other find this stuff as useful as you guys are saying. it will be a relief for folks to have an effective tool against them.
will be interesting to see if other find this stuff as useful as you guys are saying. it will be a relief for folks to have an effective tool against them.
Im a long time member and a regular debugger of snake oil and I am having great success with this stuff so far. My clone room looks so much better this week than it did last week. Better than a week after avid or heat treatment I will tell you that much. Dont have a scope but I have been battling these bitches for 7 months or so now and I think I really might have them on the run at least. Strains I have moms of just cant be gotten again in my neck of the woods, so tearing down a starting over is not an option. Hitting my mom room when the next batch of brew is done. Will keep everyone posted, but I'm sold so far. Those of you who know me, know I'm old school. I don't know either one of the dudes above and really appreciate the help on this. I had never in my 10 years used poison on my herb plants until BM and I hope I never have to again.
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