Plummeting Marijuana Prices for Growers

[blackone]

Not only am I not worried about legalization, I look forward to it.
I think that anyone that is willing to realize that outdoor Cannabis, or greenhouse grown will be the furure, is ahead of the game. Who will pay indoor prices when they have a choice of outdoor or greenhouse grown for a fraction of the cost? I know that badly grown outdoor or poorly grown greenhouse can be not as good as indoor, but I can assure you that if the outdoor environment is suited for your variety you can produce the very highest quality outdoors, the same with a greenhouse, if done correctly it is as good or better then any indoor...
I am sure we meet angin, it is a small world.
-SamS

I totally agree here. You don't even need perfect climate - even up here in Denmark it's possible to grow top quality outdoors and especially in greenhouses / under a roof.
The mold problems we usually face would be a whole lot less too with professional breeders being able to work with tens of thousands of plants instead of the tens of plants most smalltime and hobby breeders work with - even the best breeders in the game are restricted to hundreds of plants with perhaps a handful of exceptions.

 

[sprinkl]

Not only am I not worried about legalization, I look forward to it.
I think that anyone that is willing to realize that outdoor Cannabis, or greenhouse grown will be the furure, is ahead of the game. Who will pay indoor prices when they have a choice of outdoor or greenhouse grown for a fraction of the cost? I know that badly grown outdoor or poorly grown greenhouse can be not as good as indoor, but I can assure you that if the outdoor environment is suited for your variety you can produce the very highest quality outdoors, the same with a greenhouse, if done correctly it is as good or better then any indoor...
I am sure we meet angin, it is a small world.
-SamS

Exactly. Indoor is only being done because its easier to hide an illegal crop, and manipulating light schedule is easier. And people think indoor means better, they have not smoked good greenhouse or outdoor buds.

i think there will be a market for everyone

i just can not beleive that there will ever be cheap weed,
even if you grow it you're self

Sam, maybe you could pull off cheap weed that i would try ?
but that is you, and a few select others in this world

i am a pot snob ! i admit it i just think it will be pretty
impossible to produce the discerning boutique quality cannabis
that i expect, at such a cheap price

talk is cheap ! everybody thinks they are a magician and think
they can just wave a magic wand i am just gad i
grow my own !

for me outdoor is totally unexceptable and i live in NORCAL

Pot really doesnt need much to be top quality. Almost always pot gets ruined by overusing fertilizers or additives. Good genetics, sun, water, right temps and humidity and just enough nutes.
Its hard unless you know what youre doing and manage to leave it alone and not ruin it with all that hyped up $$ industry bs. In a way the industry allready ruined cannabis for a good part with all those shmuck nutrients and genetics..

Edit. Oh and pesticied. Most of the time only needed because people manage to sicken their plants with chemical crap to the point they cant fend off some bugs on their own. A lot of weed is as natural as a nuclear powerplant lmao

 

[mexcurandero420]

What big ones, I don't understand, I thought in the USA 90% or more of the tomatoes are grown under the sun? And when you speak of quality heirloom varieties it is closer to 99%, why is that?
-SamS

BTW, I knew and worked with Dr. Bocsa for a decade, he was wrong about THC being needed in hemp, he was old school, maybe one of the best hemp breeders, but he got left behind when modern breeding showed he was wrong about this and other ideas he held. Cannabis with zero THC is the same as Cannabis with THC except it does not have THC, maybe the THC synthase is missing or non functional or the CBG synthase, so no THC...

Neither in Iceland or Holland they grow the tomatoes outdoors, the same for flowers.It's just a different climate than in Florida or California.

About the THC, time will tell if modern breeding of hemp without THC will bring any good for the hemp plant.For every chemical Mother Nature produce there is a purpose.

Keep on growing

 

[Lemon Larry]

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[Sam_Skunkman]

Anyway the question is about the falling prices, is it good, is it bad? Will it continue?
To me it is great because then I can just take the resin off plants and smoke the resin.
I am sure that prices will drop as more and more people find ways to produce very high quality outdoors or low cost unlit greenhouses. The future will reveal itself, I know when I started saying prices would drop more then 10 years ago everyone laughed, now with prices at 50% what they were in most production areas, the laughing has stopped.
All in all unless you are dependent on the high price as a way to live it is a good thing that prices drop. I want the industry normalized and such high prices are not normal. It may have been justified in the past when it was fully illegal and they really wanted to get you, the extra money was needed for a lawyer fund. But it is much easier to grow then it was, so that needs to be reflected in price.
Also as a hash smoker, I need dry Cannabis plants at $100 or less a kg so I can afford to grind it up and just keep the resin. I figure sooner or later I might be to old to grow easy, but I still might want to make my own hash each year...
-SamS

 

[Jericho Mile]

Normalized in an abnormal world....not sure that's what I want to see

 

[mikeandnaomi]

Tons of marginal product in the marketplace.
You can get 7k lb - in NYC in the Upper East Side Circles.
We all know the CA. dispensary product is - for the most part - bunk.
NICHE quality is the way to go..

 

[Slip Kid]

Very true, NYC is a black hole that sucks just about the better part of the good quality flowers in the whole NE region and beyond.I can only guess or imagine how much smoke is blown out by the second within the 5 borough zone. That's fine with me, I love NYC, from afar.It's like it's own planet that swallows bumpkins like me right up.I could survive on the pizza's alone.

 

[BushyOldGrower]

Supply and demand for quality still gets a good price eh?

I know one Cali club that has my sour bubble but they sell it for about 480 an oz.

Actually I can pick any club and still get a very good price because when I show my stuff and start to put it back in my bag they always stop me and say ok to my price.

If you can't get a good price then I suggest you grow my seeds...

 

[saluki]

I would typically ignore such a marketing ploy but for some reason you seem credible Bushy. New head on here, just making conversation.

 

[Wendull C.]

That wasn't a marketing ploy bro, that is a fact. If you know you have the best and have the confidence to walk away from a low ball offer you never make it to the door.
Any one who has medicine in Ca. that demands that donation to cover their expenses doesn't need ploys.

 

[1TWISTEDTRUCKER]

Maybe we will form private clubs or cooperatives that still provide for their members in many ways like a country club. We will play pool and maybe darts...

Ahh well I dunno about giving darts to stoners...

Legal will be fun actually. We are gonna teach everyone how to party...

That's EXACTLY why they make soft tip darts(what I throw)

PEACE;1TT

 

[mowood3479]

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[TripleDraw27]

fwiw, - some shit that id consider hay taken for 2500

i dont grow hay, but i knew this was an experiment. u getting rid of your " good stuff
' for 2500? then look at this message.

 

[easywind420247]

in norCal I see outs going for 12-16
greenhouse for 15-2k
indoor for 2k-32.. 32 being tiptop for the AAA superfunk and only collectives are payin that much.

 

[easywind420247]

Supply and demand for quality still gets a good price eh?

I know one Cali club that has my sour bubble but they sell it for about 480 an oz.

Actually I can pick any club and still get a very good price because when I show my stuff and start to put it back in my bag they always stop me and say ok to my price.

If you can't get a good price then I suggest you grow my seeds...

I have seen BOG's sour bubble sell for 42 a unit in sacramento to a club.. no BS..

 

[NorC@liGrower]

in norCal I see outs going for 12-16

Is it any good? My experience was, at this time of year, hard to find anything worth buying meaning anything that met my standards. I had to do a lot of legwork.

 

[easywind420247]

Is it any good? My experience was, at this time of year, hard to find anything worth buying meaning anything that met my standards. I had to do a lot of legwork.

those prices I listed were pretty much an anytime range from what I have seen over the past few months. many different circles..

at this time of year yes there are some people gouging and there are some people who plan it out so that they have really nice things and can provide on point normal pricing to those that are in need. all depends on who you know.
It may take some legwork because norCal is huge and there are many different circles..

 

[easywind420247]

actually scored a few units of some amazing E18 and some purple erkle for 16 the other day.. great nose.. super bright. chunky. no shake..
anywhoo prices are all relative. dependant upon how much the grower put in, what they got out of it, the strains flowering time if a crazy sativa, the list goes on and on.
after all that it boils down to if the grower is a person who wants to hook it up and does it for the love or if they are in it for the money.
so to try to base it on comparisons is crazy. its all relative and individual. cant hate on anyones prices unless they are straight up gouging or they are a close friend or family.. ha
there will always be people who pay what they have to pay so any price will work. just may be harder to work when people cut each others throats and drop way below the true value in an area.
I am in the gem and mineral business and the pricing there is quite relative and strange too. depends on mining costs, how much material was found, the area, the danger, the equipment involved..

 

[NorC@liGrower]

actually scored a few units of some amazing E18

I really like E18 and just about everyone that got some liked it. Was one of those crowd favorites. It can easily pass for indoor. GREAT smell, solid high type/potency yet the flavor a bit bland. I didn't think is was AAA type stuff yet definitely stands above the crowd. It's a MONSTER yielder, very vigorous/hardy and super easy to trim. Attempting to remember what's in it and think Nepalese, Trainwreck and Green Crack. I used to get mine from the guy that created it. E stands for, well that's a secret of sorts, and the 18 I believe is it was #18 out of 100 beans he popped and grew.

Cool to see it getting a good review

If you're in that area and getting some E18 keep your eye out for Good Knight/Night which is a cross of Good Times(a select cut of Vanilla Kush) and Blue Knight/Night. Not many people holding it. AWESOME stuff! One day they'll release the cut right now it's VERY tightly held. When it first came out last harvest, or harvest before last as I've lost track, I couldn't even score an elbow as it was all presold for top dollar. I was comped an oz though and some of the better outdoor I've seen aside from the tried and true elite cuts. I think it was like $2400 right when stuff started to hit the market from the harvest.